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raz22
11-03-2007, 12:09 PM
This is an old thread, please go to the last page for the latest discussion. That should avoid further confusion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have a theory on the plot that I haven't seen discussed (and I've searched for awhile). If you don't want to speculate on the plot, please don't read any further.

Some of the posts I read about the plot have intrigued me - and Ubisoft's silence is definitely making me speculate. My theory is this:

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The modern day company finds a descendant of Altair. Through their research they've discovered that Altair, through his dealings with the Templar, found out at some point where their treasure was being kept. They need to use Altair's descendant to rebuild Altair's genetic memory so that they can piece together the puzzle and find out where the treasure is. Chances are it's there to this day and they want to be the first to find it.

That would explain the kidnap of the descendant, "re-building" Altair's memory blocks and Altair's communication with his targets before they die. I think people would divulge anything if they knew they were about to die.
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My apologies if this has been posted before, believe me when I say I searched before making my first post. I just didn't find anything quite like it and wanted to share. I really enjoy these forums! I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for listening.

raz22
11-03-2007, 12:09 PM
This is an old thread, please go to the last page for the latest discussion. That should avoid further confusion. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I have a theory on the plot that I haven't seen discussed (and I've searched for awhile). If you don't want to speculate on the plot, please don't read any further.

Some of the posts I read about the plot have intrigued me - and Ubisoft's silence is definitely making me speculate. My theory is this:

_______

The modern day company finds a descendant of Altair. Through their research they've discovered that Altair, through his dealings with the Templar, found out at some point where their treasure was being kept. They need to use Altair's descendant to rebuild Altair's genetic memory so that they can piece together the puzzle and find out where the treasure is. Chances are it's there to this day and they want to be the first to find it.

That would explain the kidnap of the descendant, "re-building" Altair's memory blocks and Altair's communication with his targets before they die. I think people would divulge anything if they knew they were about to die.
_______

My apologies if this has been posted before, believe me when I say I searched before making my first post. I just didn't find anything quite like it and wanted to share. I really enjoy these forums! I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for listening.

Potshot31
11-03-2007, 01:15 PM
very good thinking after numerous reads and reviews of the comic's pictures and the plot around the air ron (srry i forget what the treasure is called) but if this is indeed true, excellent piecing together and this could help to resolve some tension from this sci fi twist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RonTorque
11-03-2007, 01:24 PM
I believe you might be half right about that genetic memory,but about the treasure i am not so sure.You have read the comic book...havent you?I read it and there are some pieces of the story missing in it..i think,that for sure will be revealed in the game.Coz about Altair and his descendant...there is something common between both of them.I dont wanna spoil much more for you or for anyone who is gonna read...that's what i think.

Clonage2006
11-03-2007, 02:35 PM
Going off the comics, and your idea, perhaps the first game is us as altair, reliving the (obtainment?)of the detail about the treasure.Perhaps the second game will be his descendant escaping from the testing thingy where he is kept, and perhaps killing the people in charge of the scientists etc. Good stuffs, this and the comic.

sharkblaster
11-03-2007, 02:41 PM
Where would his descendant pick up skills to kill alot of people, he's not quite altair. And nice theory, i think it could happen tbh but let's just wait.

raz22
11-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Pot: Thanks, I definitely think it's a strong possibility for the plot. Of course, I'm open to being completely wrong and surprised! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ron: Yes, I've read the comic. The only thing that doesn't add up with my theory is that Desmond looks surprised when he is found on the table. He is then chased -away- by the guards. Almost like he intentionally wanted to get onto the table.

Clonage: You're right, it leaves a large opening for sequels to come in and focus on Desmond.

shark: I would think Altair's direct descendent, one who carries his genetic memories, would be of the same ilk and tradition to know those skills. After all, in the comic Desmond mentions being an assassin. You are right - speculation is merely that. But it's all I can do to pass the time! It feels like so very far away. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dd22cowboys
11-03-2007, 04:34 PM
I think your right raz, remember jade said the story "ties in with things going on today" in some way. Well i think with all the Templar secrets stuff that Davinci code stuff brought up, maybe there is a connection. Many people think the templars found a buncha treasure and stuff from the temple mount in jerusalem and then blackmailed the pope with some stuff that maybe he didnt want to get out. Some pople think this is why the pope declared the templars heretics and had about all of them killed. Then you get into the masonic stuff which some people say runs the government blah blah. Theres also the little point that the AC logo looks very similiar to the masonic symbol.

Creepy006
11-03-2007, 04:53 PM
Didn't read all the comments, but alta´r 'talks'with his victim right after he kills him.

sharkblaster
11-04-2007, 04:21 AM
Yeah i don't quite understand that.

Darkeye321
11-04-2007, 04:29 AM
i think the story is this: Free Masons find Altairs decendant, they use some DNA mumbo jumbo from his decendant to make Altair go back in time ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif ) so they free masons can wipe out all religions....good yes?

raz22
11-04-2007, 08:32 AM
dd22cowboys: Exactly. Their treasure is still lost to this day. If the Assassins recovered it, or if it was just hidden in a new place, Altair may have found out where it's at. What better way to tap into his knowledge then reconstruct his life as he saw it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

creepy006: Exactly. I mentioned that in my original post - Altair converses with his victims before they die. If he's trying to find the treasure, they're probably giving him clues. Each new assassination leads you (and Abstergo Industries, since they're watching) closer and closer to finding out where the treasure is.

shark: We'll just have to wait and see. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Darkeye321: I'm with you on using the descendant, but I don't quite think it's time travel ins the sense of "going back". I think it's activating genetic memory that makes his life visible to those that are watching. There is a chair next to the table in the comic - a perfect place for someone to sit and examine.



I also wanted to point out that FANTASTIC new footage that someone shot of the Bravo feature on Assassins Creed. Altair's first mission, that he botched, involves killing the leader of the Templars and recovering the treasure - at least, the treasure was mentioned numerous times in the cutscenes.

It's obvious that the story involves the treasure in some way. Since, to this day, the treasure is still missing, I've feeling more confident that Abstergo Industries is using Desmond to recreate Altair's life to find out where that treasure is located.

Exciting stuff! I wish it were coming out this week. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

raz22
11-04-2007, 08:38 AM
I should also add: after watching the new footage and hearing Robert de Sable tell the Assassins that they should "Give back" what belongs to him, I'm guessing it's possible that somehow the Assassins either:

a) Have the treasure themselves

or

b) Have a map or some keystone to it.

Either way, it's only a slight variation on my original theory, and reconstructing Altairs genetic memory would help in both instances. Waiting is too hard! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GPNM
11-04-2007, 08:40 AM
Well...both Altair and Desmond are assassins in some way.

Remember in the comic, at the end we see both of them say "I am an assassin."

I think there's more to Desmond though then what we've seen.

EDIT: After watching the GamerTV thing on AC, I noticed that they mentioned the Templars finding something under the temple mount. The holy ark perhaps?

raz22
11-04-2007, 01:34 PM
GPNM: It is believed that one of the original hiding places of the Templar treasure was under the Holy Mount.

Once again that treasure is coming into play. It would still be an amazing amount of gold to this day!

MeAltairLol
11-04-2007, 02:49 PM
Wow, that's an awesome theory, Raz! It's nicely pieced together, it sounds good, and best of all, it's very well thought of. it might just be the actual story. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

raz22
11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
MeAltairLol: Thanks! Like I said, it just makes too much sense. It's ridiculous to even speculate where that treasure is hidden to this day - it may not even exist anymore! If someone wanted to find it, they'd need inside information.

But those scientists in that comic were focused. They have a goal. They know it's out there, and they know Altair also knew. Altair is their "insider", and Desmond is their key to Altair. They want to see through his eyes to find that treasure! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If I'm right - great! It's an awesome story and I can't wait to see how it pans out.

If I'm wrong - no problem! It may be ten times better then my theory!

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lb003g0676
11-04-2007, 05:41 PM
yes, and the new footage from Bravo, clear up what it is. And essentially it is just liek the Matrix, except the animus is the computer that generates history through genetics. Which is obviosuly soemthign beign researched at the moment.

Patrice Desilets is just a god on earth. if eh came up with it. And his ideas about a game in Jesus' time. He is a true CREATIVE director.

dd22cowboys
11-04-2007, 07:42 PM
1. The game isnt in "jesus' time"...lol.
2. I think its more Matrix/DavinciCode/Kingdomofheaven! Which is a genius combination!
3. I wish i could just sleep until nov 14...

sweetlou280
11-04-2007, 07:45 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dd22cowboys:
1. The game isnt in "jesus' time"...lol.
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He was saying that one of Patrices ideas for a sequal was a game in Jesus' time

dd22cowboys
11-04-2007, 08:38 PM
I havent heard of this, info pls?

Altair179
11-05-2007, 12:18 AM
Raz: Nice going!!! Awesome Theory!!

raz22
11-05-2007, 07:48 AM
Altair179: Thanks! I think it would make for a great game to play. I'm sure the treasure is involved somehow.

As for the "Jesus" comments - this was actually something the creative team on AC was throwing around during the conceptual phase. Jade mentioned in an interview that one of the team made a joke that they couldn't make a game with Jesus in it because "he'd be too powerful". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

They don't have any plans to go that far back in history. I also don't think any game company would be so brave as to do so. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Getting back on track with the thread - I wish AC was coming out this week and not next! I'd like to see if my theory was right...

rebelinthenude0
11-05-2007, 08:03 AM
I think That you start out the game right away as Desmond, you sneek thru the Corp. to find the time traveling thingy, the reason he is there i believe is that he is trying to kill one of the corp heads or that somewhow they know he is a direct descendant or somthing.(my question that is i believe he is altiar because he can speak clear english in the past).....got to go in school will continue later

raz22
11-05-2007, 08:27 AM
rebelinthenude0: Concerning the clear English speaking - I'm assuming that perhaps one of the Animus Systems abilities is to do real time translation. It's probably updating Altair's speech on the fly as his memory is re-built.

Speaking of the Animus System...I'm sure you all noticed it said "Welcome Subject 17".

My question is: who were the other 16 subjects? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lukenichols
11-05-2007, 09:45 AM
wtf its set 1000 years ago

twistedesthetic
11-05-2007, 09:58 AM
I believed it was mentioned that it would eventually leads to the present time, but not sure of this.

raz22
11-05-2007, 11:45 AM
lukenichols: I don't want to spoil too much for you, but there is a futuristic science fiction element to the game. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Check some other posts on this site for more information.

twistedesthetic: I wouldn't be surprised if, at some point, you were allowed to play as Desmond in 2012.

twistedesthetic
11-05-2007, 12:00 PM
I wouldn't be surprise either. I'm looking forward for this game.

rebelinthenude0
11-05-2007, 02:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raz22:
rebelinthenude0: Concerning the clear English speaking - I'm assuming that perhaps one of the Animus Systems abilities is to do real time translation. It's probably updating Altair's speech on the fly as his memory is re-built.

Speaking of the Animus System...I'm sure you all noticed it said "Welcome Subject 17".

My question is: who were the other 16 subjects? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea that could be it...never thought of that but like i was saying i think you will be the same guy throughout the entire trilogy, meaning that somehow altiar is desmond that what altiar found in that treasure made him able to maybe travel thru time or and just thought of this maybe the holy grail with eternal life!!!!!!that would be so freakin awesome!!!! and the corp is trying to find out where it is and they found out he is a product of it.....on the subject 17 thing maybe they believed it was 16 others and only now did they find the right guy.

twistedesthetic
11-06-2007, 07:13 AM
I think it was mentioned before that Altair doesn't time travel. Perhaps, progress through time? I don't know.

raz22
11-06-2007, 01:25 PM
Yeah, I really don't see time travel as being much of an option, give what we've seen. I'm entirely open to being wrong, though.

As for the Holy Grail, there is some of that legend tied into the Templars, but judging how much they've talked about it in that Bravo footage we've recently seen, I think the treasure is what they're after.

I also did some digging into Alamut, the book that sparked Ubisoft's interest in creating AC. The hero goes back to seek revenge on Hassan for deceiving him (all of the assassins are basically tricked into believing they're going to Paradise after they die). I came up with another theory:

Perhaps when they are dying, Altair's 9 targets spill the beans about Hassan's deception. Altair may go back to seek revenge on Hassan and doesn't kill him, but instead makes off with the stolen Templar's treasure.

That would be yet another reason for Abstergo Industries to piece together Altair's memory to find out where he stashed the treasure!

That would probably be a LOT for one guy to take away though.

These holes won't be filled until the 14th. This wait is horrible. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

raz22
11-06-2007, 06:54 PM
Oh, and I can't imagine how I forgot this as well: my guess is that the men of Abstergo Industries may themselves be descendents of the Templar, or at least members of the Freemasons, perhaps.

It would be great for one of Altair's targets in 1191 to be named "Abstergo".

A descendent of the Templar using a descendent of the Assassins to find out where the treasure was being kept.

Sounds interesting to me!

Potshot31
11-06-2007, 07:09 PM
involving the subject 17 thing, im just throwing it out there: could altair be the 17th decendent (subject) of desmond ?

Potshot31
11-06-2007, 07:14 PM
and i just dictionaried it and:
abstergo
TRANSlation
wipe off/clean/away| clean away| cleanse| strip off; banish| expel| dispel

so if the name of the industry has anything to do with what they are doing then they are either trying to EXPEL information of somesort or STRIP OFF desmonds memory decendent blocks to find the treasure?

twistedesthetic
11-06-2007, 07:14 PM
It is possible but then again...anything is possible.

Crusaderpenny
11-06-2007, 07:15 PM
Great theories raz.

I've also got something, when you replied to sharkblaster and said "I would think Altair's direct descendent, one who carries his genetic memories, would be of the same ilk and tradition to know those skills"
I remembered the kirsten Bell interview awhile back when she taked about assassins creed and the genetic memory stuff like how does a bird know to eat a worm and not a cockroach. Maybe this also applies to Desmond being that he was related to an assassins and he maybe could always do things like freerunning and escaping.

Hopefully you see were im going with it but anyways good theory.

raz22
11-06-2007, 08:33 PM
Potshot31: Good thinking on the Subject 17 being the 17th descendent. On average, if every descendent from Altair to Desmond lived roughly to 50 years of age, that would put the date for the 17th subject somewhere around 2041. Give or take a few years off of each one and you might be able to arrive at 2012.

I also like the thought of Abstergo stripping away memory blocks to get at the information they need.

twistedesthetic: You're as mysterious as Jade and Patrice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Crusaderpenny: Yes! I definitely like where you're going. It's in the family, it's in Desmond's genes. It's what he knows. Traditions that close don't die. Desmond himself may not know where the treasure is, but somewhere down the line someone in his family knew. The traditions of his ancestor Altair probably continued on to his generation.

raz22
11-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Concerning the Animus system, I remember the lucky folks who got to play the game at Ubi saying that some parts were blocked off by "bluish smoke" (can't recall a link to the post at the moment).

In the new footage of the Animus system talking to "Subject 17" it also appears very smoky, very hazy. And I'm sure we also all recall the footage of Altair perched on a ledge on top of a building with smoke all around him that slowly dissipates.

Perhaps the effect of "entering the genetic memory" is through an effect of whiting out the screen and then "coming to" through a smoky / foggy cloud.

I also want to point out, again, that I'm getting a strong feeling that Altair starts out as a loyal assassin, gets stripped of his title, fights to regain his honor but somewhere along the way becomes disillusioned with being an assassin. I wonder if he steals a map that leads to the treasure from the Leader and that's what gets lost through history...

Bah, there I go rambling again! It must be late. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Note to all: it will be very fun (and maybe embarassing) to see how close we all are to the real story of this game. I don't care how many videos I watch, I still can't figure it out - and I LOVE that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kaxen6
11-06-2007, 08:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raz22:
Concerning the Animus system, I remember the lucky folks who got to play the game at Ubi saying that some parts were blocked off by "bluish smoke" (can't recall a link to the post at the moment).

In the new footage of the Animus system talking to "Subject 17" it also appears very smoky, very hazy. And I'm sure we also all recall the footage of Altair perched on a ledge on top of a building with smoke all around him that slowly dissipates.

Perhaps the effect of "entering the genetic memory" is through an effect of whiting out the screen and then "coming to" through a smoky / foggy cloud.

I also want to point out, again, that I'm getting a strong feeling that Altair starts out as a loyal assassin, gets stripped of his title, fights to regain his honor but somewhere along the way becomes disillusioned with being an assassin. I wonder if he steals a map that leads to the treasure from the Leader and that's what gets lost through history...

Bah, there I go rambling again! It must be late. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Note to all: it will be very fun (and maybe embarassing) to see how close we all are to the real story of this game. I don't care how many videos I watch, I still can't figure it out - and I LOVE that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah. Some parts were blocked off by blue haze.

On your disillusioned theory, in this interview: http://gamereactor.dk/grtv/player/popup.php?cat=Interview&id=1504

Jade mentions Altair questioning and feeling a little bad about his job (though apparently not bad enough to get a new job xD). She also mentions that at the beginning, Altair takes "nothing is true, everything is permitted" on the literal level of do whatever the heck I want which probably causes his cocky attitude, but over time he finds a different meaning...

What else can nothing is true, everything is permitted mean? hmmm...

Faylinks
11-06-2007, 09:05 PM
if that where ture, that there was some treasure they wanted.. and it got passed down through the assassins. and was lost at that time.. the third crusade..

And also that if they where historically correct there would be a treasure that was lost in the 3rd crusade. so if anyone knows of something of great value whent missing.. i think we can say that thats the treasure that they are looking for.. if thats ture.

Faylinks
11-06-2007, 09:16 PM
Oh, its obvious if this is true.. the people in the future must be looking for the holy grail/ark.. the crusaders where looking for it at that time, if they found it and where keeping it and they where to be assassinated i think thats the connection and why they are looking up atiers past to know where the grail went at that time


Or another thing that went missing is a large some of gold that was going to pay for the crusade went missing

raz22
11-07-2007, 08:02 AM
Faylinks: While I'd be wrong to say it's not about the grail, I'd think it was more about the treasure, just because they were speaking about it in the Bravo footage. Moreover, that treasure is also still missing to this day, and it's estimated worth is a LOT. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Regardless of whether it be the treasure or the grail, I could see how they could make sequels about getting closer and closer to finding either of them! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

lukenichols
11-07-2007, 11:24 AM
come on these guys are pro like they are going to let him time travel or anything like that.

it will be related to the future through the religous stuff

but sci-fi... got me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

hope its nout idiotic

lukenichols
11-07-2007, 11:25 AM
also it would make sense for it to include the grail as its a religous game ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

raz22
11-23-2007, 05:29 PM
I just wanted to resurrect my old thread to say that I was right! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I know, I know. Where's my cookie, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

At any rate, I was pretty sure the grail wasn't involved, and the computer in the conference room proves that as Abstergo's report says that they don't even know if the grail exists.

Good stuff! Bring on AC2! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jimbob01000
11-24-2007, 01:55 PM
they basicly told you the story in the trailers and interviews so i dont know what ur braggin about

lostassassin123
11-24-2007, 02:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raz22:
I just wanted to resurrect my old thread to say that I was right! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I know, I know. Where's my cookie, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

At any rate, I was pretty sure the grail wasn't involved, and the computer in the conference room proves that as Abstergo's report says that they don't even know if the grail exists.

Good stuff! Bring on AC2! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
*Holds Raz a cookie*
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raz22
11-25-2007, 12:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jimbob01000:
they basicly told you the story in the trailers and interviews so i dont know what ur braggin about </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

jimbob01000: I have to disagree with you. The trailers and interviews made a lot of references to future aspects interwoven with the story but they never spilled the entire story out.

They never mentioned Templar treasure or that Abstergo may be Templars. They never mentioned using Desmond to access Altair's memory to help find that treasure.

They may have alluded to those facts but I was happy that I put that together. Judging from the responses we got, people liked the idea and I, for one, am glad that's the way it went because I thought it was a great story.

Let's not consider it "bragging", ok? Let's consider it a follow up. Besides, why do you have to rain on my parade? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



lostassassin123: Thanks for the cookie. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Royal.Mist
11-25-2007, 04:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raz22:
I have a theory on the plot that I haven't seen discussed (and I've searched for awhile). If you don't want to speculate on the plot, please don't read any further.

Some of the posts I read about the plot have intrigued me - and Ubisoft's silence is definitely making me speculate. My theory is this:

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The modern day company finds a descendant of Altair. Through their research they've discovered that Altair, through his dealings with the Templar, found out at some point where their treasure was being kept. They need to use Altair's descendant to rebuild Altair's genetic memory so that they can piece together the puzzle and find out where the treasure is. Chances are it's there to this day and they want to be the first to find it.

That would explain the kidnap of the descendant, "re-building" Altair's memory blocks and Altair's communication with his targets before they die. I think people would divulge anything if they knew they were about to die.
_______

My apologies if this has been posted before, believe me when I say I searched before making my first post. I just didn't find anything quite like it and wanted to share. I really enjoy these forums! I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks for listening. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OMFG How did you figure this out? Did you watch the cut scenes and listen to the story?! ZOMG, YOU DID!? Well there you go. Obvious plot is obvious.

The only thing you are off on is "re-building" genetic memory. They didn't rebuild anything. He just had trouble jumping to the specific memory where Altair comes into possession of the Piece of Eden. So we go through the boring stuff to get to the 'end'.

Also, dying men will not divulge information just because they are dying. They divulge information because they want to.

EDIT: You ARE bragging. I don't know why because anyone who paid attention would already know this. Same as the "Is Lucy an Assassin?" discussions. How many people paid attention to the game?

Hassan-Sabbah
11-25-2007, 04:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Royal.Mist:

OMFG How did you figure this out? Did you watch the cut scenes and listen to the story?! ZOMG, YOU DID!? Well there you go. Obvious plot is obvious.

The only thing you are off on is "re-building" genetic memory. They didn't rebuild anything. He just had trouble jumping to the specific memory where Altair comes into possession of the Piece of Eden. So we go through the boring stuff to get to the 'end'.

Also, dying men will not divulge information just because they are dying. They divulge information because they want to.

EDIT: You ARE bragging. I don't know why because anyone who paid attention would already know this. Same as the "Is Lucy an Assassin?" discussions. How many people paid attention to the game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

See...you are one of those people who like to stomp on puppies and trip old ladies, or at least, that is how you come across. The majority of your posts are nothing but negativity.

Why the need for shooting the guy/gal down? Here is an idea, if you did not find the post of any merit, ignore it. Do we address personal insecurities by coming on the inerwebs and bash people whilst sitting behind our pixelated anonimity?

I see you post, day after day, and hour after hour, about how you hate this game, how you hate the people who do like the game...if you have such strong feelings, why not leave and ignore it?

I know when I smell sht, I try to find a way to get out of its presence...you should try it.

raz22
11-25-2007, 06:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Royal.Mist:
OMFG How did you figure this out? Did you watch the cut scenes and listen to the story?! ZOMG, YOU DID!? Well there you go. Obvious plot is obvious.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Are you kidding Royal.Mist?

Look, I don't want to embarass you here, because I know you're smarter then this, but...I made that prediction on November 3rd. My original post was from November 3rd, and I came back here, on this thread specifically, to address my previous discussion with the people who I had been talking to before.

You weren't one of those people so I don't expect you to understand this thread right off the bat, but for the future, please check out the date on the posts, ok?


Hassan-Sabbah: Thanks for coming to my defense, I appreciate it, but Royal.Mist just didn't understand that my post was before the game even came out. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif