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Charlie901
03-05-2004, 02:58 PM
Reason I ask is that I created a mission in FMB and shot down a V1. It's damage model appeared very good in that I shot some control surfaces off it and it plummeted to the ground, but did not explode in flight or upon impact with the ground.

Is the V1 supposed to explode when shot at in the air, and if it crashes prior to its target point after being shot down is it supposed to explode upon impact with the ground?


On a side note, the readme says that historically V1's were nudged out of the air by flying alongside and using a wingtip to tip the V1's wingtip. Apparently the V1's could not restabilize and would fly off course and crash. They were not shot at because the resulting explosion was too large and close. Can't wait to try this. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Charlie901
03-05-2004, 02:58 PM
Reason I ask is that I created a mission in FMB and shot down a V1. It's damage model appeared very good in that I shot some control surfaces off it and it plummeted to the ground, but did not explode in flight or upon impact with the ground.

Is the V1 supposed to explode when shot at in the air, and if it crashes prior to its target point after being shot down is it supposed to explode upon impact with the ground?


On a side note, the readme says that historically V1's were nudged out of the air by flying alongside and using a wingtip to tip the V1's wingtip. Apparently the V1's could not restabilize and would fly off course and crash. They were not shot at because the resulting explosion was too large and close. Can't wait to try this. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
03-05-2004, 03:29 PM
I think shooting V1's was more common but, from a safe distance of course. Tipping over a V1 was very dangerous if not done properly. You'll have to fly exactly at the same speed with exactly the same course and stuff... Basically you will have to fly with the same precision as modern day jetfighters, coming in for an aerial refuel but, without the steering aids available.

The V1 was stabilized with a gyroscope. It held the weapon on a straight course and a straight flight path. When a gyroscope lines-up two of its axles, it goes in a gimbal lock and looses the ability to stand 'upright'. EVen worse, there will be a strong rotating force. The V1's controls will follow this force and will plummit into the ground. This 'gimbal lock' can be avoided by adding an extra ring around the gyroscope. But, I guess that technology wasn't available in large and cheap enough quantities at that time. Or maybe the Germans didn't have a clue about what was happening with the V1's after they launched them.

Mind you, this is all textbook wisdom and I have no real-life experience with Gyroscopes.

Anyways, I live in Europe (yurp) and I don't have AEP yet but, when I do, I certainly will try tipping a V1 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Call_me_Kanno
03-05-2004, 04:07 PM
I shot one down in the single mission P-51 vs V1 and although I didn't witness the explosion, I did hear it and sharpnel hit my plane at around800m.

Also there is a trak you can watch to see how to down a V1 with your wing. You don't actualy touch your wing to the V1's. You manuver your wing under the V1's until you can get it close enough for the air flow over you wing to disrupt the flow over it's wing and cause it to roll over.

tomaz99
03-06-2004, 09:35 AM
Charlie901;
where did you find the V1 in the objects browser in FMB?? I tried to find the bloody thing for almost an hour but no joy.

VW-IceFire
03-06-2004, 10:27 AM
Some V1's explode when hit...others spin out of control and hit the ground.

Goto the bottom of this page and have a look: http://user.tninet.se/~ytm843e/movies.htm

I highly recommend watching Wing Commander Roland Beaumont's explanation of how to tip a V-1 over. Hopefully sooner or later we'll be doing this with Tempests http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Huckebein_UK
03-06-2004, 10:32 AM
Agreed, you can't have V-1s without the V-1's arch-nemesis! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Charlie901
03-06-2004, 11:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tomaz99:
Charlie901;
where did you find the V1 in the objects browser in FMB?? I tried to find the bloody thing for almost an hour but no joy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


You have to manually add a line to a FB file. See some other posts for instructions.

FI-Aflak
03-06-2004, 11:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Platypus_1.JaVA:
I think shooting V1's was more common but, from a safe distance of course. Tipping over a V1 was very dangerous if not done properly. You'll have to fly exactly at the same speed with exactly the same course and stuff... Basically you will have to fly with the same precision as modern day jetfighters, coming in for an aerial refuel but, without the steering aids available.

The V1 was stabilized with a gyroscope. It held the weapon on a straight course and a straight flight path. When a gyroscope lines-up two of its axles, it goes in a gimbal lock and looses the ability to stand 'upright'. EVen worse, there will be a strong rotating force. The V1's controls will follow this force and will plummit into the ground. This 'gimbal lock' can be avoided by adding an extra ring around the gyroscope. But, I guess that technology wasn't available in large and cheap enough quantities at that time. Or maybe the Germans didn't have a clue about what was happening with the V1's after they launched them.

Mind you, this is all textbook wisdom and I have no real-life experience with Gyroscopes.

Anyways, I live in Europe (yurp) and I don't have AEP yet but, when I do, I certainly will try tipping a V1 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So that is what that track P51vsV-1 is about!

I thought he was just doing some fancy flying.

So we can have colisions with V-1's (low speed) that don't just festroy everything involved?

Cool! I have a goal now; V-1 tipping.

Vortex_uk
03-06-2004, 01:56 PM
How would a propellor plane keep the same speed as a rocket/missile? I thought the V-1s would have been faster than a speeding Me-163 'Komet'

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Huckebein_UK
03-06-2004, 02:12 PM
V-1s used a pulsejet engine and travelled at any speed between 300 - 500mph. They were often therefore 'catchable' by Tempests, Spit XIIs/ XIVs and the odd diving P-47 or P-51. Tempests shot down/ tipped a good 2/3 of all 'Divers' destroyed I seem to remember.

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Gato-Loco
03-06-2004, 02:59 PM
There is a V1 tipping mission (single missions, US) for the P-51. I tried a few times and failed. It is hard to match the V-1's speed and direction.

Zyzbot
03-06-2004, 03:45 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
How would a propellor plane keep the same speed as a rocket/missile? I thought the V-1s would have been faster than a speeding Me-163 'Komet'

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"From 13th June 1944 to the 29th March 1945, this list gives the approximate number of V1 (Flying Bombs) launched against England and their fate.

Hits in the area of London 3,876

Hits in the city of London (17)

Total hits in all other Counties 3,397

Shot down by fighters 1,772

Shot down by AA Guns 1,460


Brought down by balloons 231


Types of aircraft and number of V1's shot down

Hawker Tempest 638
Mosquitoes 428
Spitfire X1V's303
Mustangs 232
Typhoons/Spitfire V, IX & XII 158
Meteors 13

Total V1's exploded on land 7,290
Total V1's destroyed in the air 3,463
Total V1's launched against England, not including the V1's that landed short of their targets or fell into the sea.
10,753

-HH-Dubbo
03-06-2004, 04:10 PM
The one I shot down exploded voilently and took my wing off. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Mind you it takes quite a few hit from the .50s to achieve the resulting explosion.


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