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WilhelmSchulz.-
08-12-2005, 11:15 AM
SSN and Hunt for the Red October by Tom Clancy
Run Silent Run Deep by Edward L. Beach
And Pride Runs Deep by Cameron R. Cooke

WilhelmSchulz.-
08-12-2005, 11:15 AM
SSN and Hunt for the Red October by Tom Clancy
Run Silent Run Deep by Edward L. Beach
And Pride Runs Deep by Cameron R. Cooke

ilcattivo
08-12-2005, 02:13 PM
I am currently reading Clay Blair's definitive two volume set "Hitler's U-Boat War" Vol. 1 The Hunters 1939-1941 and Vol. 2 The Hunted 1942-1945.

These books are a remarkable work of history writing. Blair has brought the facts and figures together with compelling true stories and the interesting characters of WWII. From Churchill to Doenitz, all the major and minor players, and what they contributed to this unique part of naval warfare, come to life as though it happened yesterday. These books are hard to find. One volume is out of print, but can be had on the Internet for a reasonable price.

For those of you interested in the real story of the U-boat these two books are for you. I did not know the first thing about until I started playing SH3. This game has sparked my interest to find out what is was really like and these books are a great palce to start.

The only downside of reading such a complete and compelling history of the U-Boat war is that it can make your imagination run wild with all the things yet to be done in a sub simulation.

DasPhillips
08-12-2005, 05:25 PM
I'm reading the legendary Das Boot by Lothar Gunther Buchheim, and I also have two other history books, U-Boat Aces and U-Boat war

HeibgesU999
08-12-2005, 07:32 PM
"Uboat Commander" by Gunter Prien
"Uboat Commander" by Erich Topp
"Uboat Commander" By Peter Cremer
"Eleven Years and Twenty Days" by Karl Doenitz
"Uboat Commanders Handbook" by BDU STAFF

hopkins32
08-12-2005, 07:53 PM
ilcattivo

iv read that boot too." Hitler's U-Boat War" loved it.

Luftwaffe_109
08-12-2005, 08:22 PM
Iron Coffins, Herbert Werner

WilhelmSchulz.-
08-12-2005, 09:24 PM
Grey Wolf Grey Sea by Gasaway (first initals are coverd by Duct Tape)

Celeon999
08-13-2005, 02:08 AM
"Feindfahrten/Hirschfeld secret diary of an u-boat" by Wolfgang Hirschfeld U-109/U-234

"Die eisernen S√¬§rge/Iron coffins" by Herbert A. Werner U-557/U-612/U-230/U-415/U-953

"Nasses Eichenlaub(no english translation by now)" Teddy Suhren U-48/U-564

KRlSTOFF
08-13-2005, 07:15 AM
"CONVOY"
The greatest U-Boat Battle of the war

by Martin Middlebrook

aaronblood
08-13-2005, 09:50 AM
Something a little different: Shadow Divers

WilhelmSchulz.-
08-13-2005, 12:29 PM
I forgot another one. Torpedo Junction By Homer H. Hickam Jr.

Praetorian27
08-13-2005, 05:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Luftwaffe_109:
Iron Coffins, Herbert Werner </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Outstanding book! Also:

Hunt and Kill the U-505 story
Steel Boat, Iron Hearts the war patrols of U-505
Wolf Pack by Gordon Williamson, kind of a coffee table book but outstanding
U-Boat War by Lothar-Gunther Buchheim

The book U-Boat War is a collection of all the photographs that Buccheim took when he was on the war patrol that the book Das Boot is about. Actual sub patrol photos...an unbelievable book!! The photos that are blurry that were taken during DC attacks are incredible!

Dominicrigg
08-13-2005, 05:35 PM
"The battle of the Atlantic" by Andrew Williams
is a stunning read if you like history books. Entertaining and from every angle, the merchant sailors, the navy, the uboats and intel in england and germany.

It gives some emotive accounts and some sad stories. I would reccomend it if you want to learn about the war. It does cut the final year a bit short but then the final year was mainly air power destroying uboats. It covers the earlier years very well though.

"Iron Coffins" is a wicked read but someone pointed out to me how its pretty much all bull poo. Check into werners career and the official sinkings for his ships he was on and you will see this is right. They are nowhere near what he says.
Unfortunatly it seems he felt the need to exagerate his achievments http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I think when he wrote it in America he must have had a holywood agent http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif Hoping to get a movie out of it lol.

Mon Pavion
08-13-2005, 09:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WilhelmSchulz.-:
Run Silent Run Deep by Edward L. Beach </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Edward L. Beach also has a pretty good book out simply called "Submarine". Its an older one though..I think.

1.JaVA_Hornet
08-14-2005, 04:13 AM
I am just reading 2 stories in one book "run silent run deep" by Edward L.Beach (real).and
The enemy below by D.A. Rayner (invented).

Run silent run deep is a story about an american
sub in the pacific during WWII.

The enemy below is a story about an german sub against an english destroyer.

I own this book for 20 years now i believe and
I am reading it once more now.

Celeon999
08-14-2005, 05:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The book U-Boat War is a collection of all the photographs that Buccheim took when he was on the war patrol that the book Das Boot is about. Actual sub patrol photos...an unbelievable book!! The photos that are blurry that were taken during DC attacks are incredible! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds good ! I think i will buy it.

Nasses Eichenlaub is also a great read . I dont know why nodobdy translated it into english by now.

Its not a very long book (only 150 pages) . But the storys Teddy has to tell are simply unbelievable. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rhoads
08-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Nobody mentioned these two:

U977 by Heinz Schaeffer (Her skipper) mainly about his last war patrol in 1945 where, rather than surrender right away to the allies, he made a two month journey, snorkeling all the way,finally arriving in Argentina two months after the war. A GREAT read.

The Uboat-The Evolution and technical history of German Submarines by Eberhard Rossler. Large hardcover format 384 pages. A great technical book about the developments of all the different Uboat types with tons(!) of Uboat construction photos on the slipways etc. A must have book for anyone into Uboats. Hard to find, I believe it is out of print.

Rhoads
08-14-2005, 02:48 PM
Also,

The Uboat Commanders Handbook-1943 Edition.

This is an English translation of the actual WWII manual given to Uboat skippers. Covers Tactics, Onboard procedures, Wolfpack operations etc.

Another must have. I bought mine at the U505 Museum store in Chicago, but I'm sure it is available elsewhere.

Rhoads
08-14-2005, 03:01 PM
Still another.

Shooting the War-Memoirs of a World War II U-Boat Officer. by Otto Giese.

About an officer (Giese)who starts the war on the blockade runner Annaliese Essberger and transfers to Uboats onboard U405 and later to Freiwald's U181 and his mission to Penang. Surrender, imprisonment, Repatriation.

Obscure, but good book with lots of unseen photos taken by the author

rory208
08-14-2005, 07:55 PM
In Harm's Way by Doug Stanton. The true story of the USS Indianapolis sunk by a Japanese submarine after delivering parts of the atom bomb "Little Boy". 300 sailors killed on impact, 900 cast into the Pacific Ocean where they remained, undetected by the navy, for five days. Submarine plays a minor role in the story, but what a story...still gives me the chills.

Reno187
08-14-2005, 10:11 PM
If you can find them, Harry Homewood wrote some good novels about subs in the Pacific. One was Final Harbor, another was O God of Battles. If you do find them they'll probably be dog-earred paperbacks in a used bookstore. I'm reading Ed Beach's "Submarine!" So far a very good read. Makes me hope all the more that SH4 is about American subs in the Pacific. It'd be kind of funny to hear Tokyo Rose on the radio informing all American submarines that you met your demise at the hands of an Imperial Navy destroyer in the Bungo Straits when in fact you got away.

uboatbeast
08-14-2005, 10:30 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifHi there, I am reading a very excellent book, called "Iron Coffins" by former U-boat commander Herbert Werner. This book is written from his personal account with the element of the human drama by a U-boat commander who was there. I loved this book and I highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in the U-boat war in the Battle of the Atlantic. This book is now available as a soft cover.

uboatbeast
08-14-2005, 10:37 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifHi another good sub book is "Clear the Bridge" by former U.S. sub skipper, Adm. Richard O'Kane, the captain of the USS Tang, the highest scoring US sub. This is written by him who was there in the war in the Pacific. Good reading - it should be made into a movie!

Celeon999
08-15-2005, 04:46 AM
Ive just ordered the complete collection of Lothar-G√ľnther Buchheims u-boat patrol photo books. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

3 Books

1. The u-boat war
2. The u-boat men
3. Victorious till death

920 photos ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif With several pics aboard U-96.

Only 45 ‚"ö¨ for all 3 books http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Amazon.de wants 25 ‚"ö¨ per every single book http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

HMFIC57
08-15-2005, 09:16 AM
The Bravest Man: The Story of Richard O'Kane & U.S. Submariners in the Pacific War

WilhelmSchulz.-
08-15-2005, 11:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Reno187:
If you can find them, Harry Homewood wrote some good novels about subs in the Pacific. One was Final Harbor, another was O God of Battles. If you do find them they'll probably be dog-earred paperbacks in a used bookstore. I'm reading Ed Beach's "Submarine!" So far a very good read. Makes me hope all the more that SH4 is about American subs in the Pacific. It'd be kind of funny to hear Tokyo Rose on the radio informing all American submarines that you met your demise at the hands of an Imperial Navy destroyer in the Bungo Straits when in fact you got away. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> It sounds like your describing Run Silent Run Deep. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

urlybird0
08-15-2005, 02:21 PM
"Submarine's versus U-boats", a dam fine read by a fella i can't remember ,,,

Ubd

urlybird0
08-15-2005, 02:24 PM
I can't believe i had to edit my post cos i said the word " Dam " with an " N " at the end of it , ****, **** , and double dam

kimwh
08-15-2005, 03:27 PM
Take a look at "Shadow Divers" - it's a book about two famous shipwreck divers who investigate a WW2 German submarine wreck off the coast of New Jersey. I managed to get my hands on the audio book and I must say I was VERY entertained.

More details at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375508589/qid=1.../102-6694983-7900964 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375508589/qid=1124141060/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-6694983-7900964)

From Publishers Weekly
This superlative journalistic narrative tells of John Chatterton and Rich Kohler, two deep-sea wreck divers who in 1991 dove to a mysterious wreck lying at the perilous depth of 230 feet, off the coast of New Jersey. Both had a philosophy of excelling and pushing themselves to the limit; both needed all their philosophy and fitness to proceed once they had identified the wreck as a WWII U-boat. As Kurson, a writer for Esquire, narrates in this debut, the two divers next undertook a seven-year search for the U-boat's identity inside the wreck, in a multitude of archives and in a host of human memories. Along the way, Chatterton's diving cost him a marriage, and Kohler's love for his German heritage helped turn him into a serious U-boat scholar. The two lost three of their diving companions on the wreck and their mentor, Bill Nagle, to alcoholism. (Chowdhury's The Last Dive, from HarperPerennial in 2002, covers two of the divers' deaths.) The successful completion of their quest fills in a gap in WWII history-the fate of the Type IX U-boat U-869. Chatterton and Kohler's success satisfied them and a diminishing handful of U-boat survivors. While Kurson doesn't stint on technical detail, lovers of any sort of adventure tale will certainly absorb the author's excellent characterizations, and particularly his balance in describing the combat arm of the Third Reich. Felicitous cooperation between author and subject rings through every page of this rare insightful action narrative. If the publishers are dreaming of another Perfect Storm, they may get their wish.

Messervy
08-15-2005, 06:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by urlybird0:
I can't believe i had to edit my post cos i said the word " Dam " with an " N " at the end of it , ****, **** , and double dam </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you can allways say "*****". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

urlybird0
08-16-2005, 02:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Messervy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by urlybird0:
I can't believe i had to edit my post cos i said the word " Dam " with an " N " at the end of it , ****, **** , and double dam </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But you can allways say "*****". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

whats that supposed to mean

Messervy
08-16-2005, 02:48 AM
It`s an old joke from the forum. The engine does not allow certain words ( you can`t even call your friend who`s name is Dlck) but you can say a *****. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Forgive me for these explicit words.

BAT502
08-16-2005, 06:40 PM
Check this guy out. Spins a bloody good yarn.

http://www.patrickrobinson.com/books.html