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CaptainFlunky
11-07-2004, 07:06 PM
Has anyone played this? It looks crazy complex and detailed, which isn't a bad thing, and I'd just like anyone who has played it to give it a thumbs up/thumbs down before I smack down 70 bucks (yep, you read it right) on it.

Thanks

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owlwatcher
11-07-2004, 08:11 PM
Have been following the develoments of this game on closly. Just last week or so a new update was added. There were quite of few fixes needed.
From my understanding and reseach into the game . You better know the 2ndWW inside and out to understand it,let alone play it.
Was waiting to read how the latest update was being received. If all seems OK , It will make my to buy list.

dfritch
11-07-2004, 08:17 PM
I have it, and love it. It is a great laptop game for sitting in hotel rooms, airports, etc.

It is very detailed and time consuming, and requires a good bit of micromanaging, however. I don't play it much at home, since the family would revolt at how much time it takes, but for travel/laptop use, it's great.

I would recommend if you're interested in that type of game.

CaptainFlunky
11-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Whats the learning curve like? Could I finish my masters degree before understanding this game?

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dfritch
11-08-2004, 08:14 AM
I didn't think it was bad at all. It's pretty easy to pick up, but it just takes a lot of time, since you go day by day through a campaign.

huggy87
11-08-2004, 08:56 AM
The reviews I have read said that one can assign a lot of the management tasks to the AI thus reducing the time commitment. Any word on how well that works?

JackJackson4
11-08-2004, 09:33 AM
I have the game....bought the cd as I have a slow dial-up....it's just not my cup of tea....I will sell it for $50 if anyone is interested....dont know if this is allowed here on this forum or not, if not, please disregard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rebel_Yell_21
11-08-2004, 10:03 AM
Ironic that this pops up here, as there was a thread at their forums recently wondering about PF.

Like PF, WitP is a fantastic game that still has a little way to go to iron out some kinks. It is an excellent portrayal of theater-wide warfare, but it is a huuuuuuuge time investment. As in, playing out a serious chunk of the war will take many months, whether pbem, or versus the AI.

Probably the biggest negative is starting a game over when a major patch is released that changes more than just order of battle issues.

Nonetheless, I would highly recommend it if you enjoy something with great depth and a fairly steep learning curve.

@huggy87 You can definitely assign a lot to the AI, and it works fairly well. Even what you control is more like real command, as you have to create conditions for things to happen, not simply order them to happen, ie, airstrikes will not fly because you say so, but rather because you provided them with good supply, a good airbase, aggressive leadership, low fatigue, reasonable targets within range, escort, etc. But you will still have to commit a lot of time. Even so, just doing one turn when you have time can be very rewarding.

Mr_Nakajima
11-08-2004, 10:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:
Whats the learning curve like? Could I finish my masters degree before understanding this game?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you played its predecessor "Uncommon Valor"? If so, it is very similar. Otherwise you should be aware the manual is 220 pages long.

CaptainFlunky
11-08-2004, 11:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr_Nakajima:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CaptainFlunky:
Whats the learning curve like? Could I finish my masters degree before understanding this game?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Have you played its predecessor "Uncommon Valor"? If so, it is very similar. Otherwise you should be aware the manual is 220 pages long. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Zoinks! 220 pages! Now thats a manual. OK, I'm going to give it a whack.
Thanks all for your input, I appreciate it!

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JonHal
11-08-2004, 11:33 AM
I have it and love it. Of all the games I have bought I think I have spent more time with War in the Pacific. And I buy a LOT of games. Now what we need is a way to generate the War in the Pacific Air Battles into Pacific fighters missions! that would be the ultimate cool.

clint-ruin
11-08-2004, 11:50 AM
I got bought a copy of this game but haven't played it yet - took one look at it and saw that it involves a lot of effort just to understand what it's displaying :>

What kind of output format does the PBEM feature use? It might be entirely possible to generate PF missions from the output.

charshep
11-08-2004, 11:50 PM
This game, or its predecessor Uncommon Valor, in conjunction with PF and the book Fire in the Sky, is the ultimate learning/gaming experience. You'll appreciate why the South Pacific theater was the ultimate Air/Land/Sea campaign. I just wish I had more time! I can't afford to do both PF and the Matrix games. But, I'm very glad I played UV. I'm sure I'll go back to Matrix games again at some point.

CoffeeBreak
11-09-2004, 09:35 AM
Great game, but req a HUGE time commitment.

A little too much micro-management and AI does not quite grasp the use of aircover to protect ships (too many Battleships and Cruisers running around w/ out air escort). But if you are interested in the PTO, this game is for you. Very detailed and faithful to that part of WWII. There is no other strategy game that comes close in terms of detail.

HARD_Sarge
11-09-2004, 11:32 AM
that is suppost to be fixed for the AI, the AI is not the best in the world, you can fool it, but would say that for any game

one hassle with the idea of mircomanageing, is up to you, the more you think about it, the more you think needs to be done, the more you can do, and do and do

but if you like these kind of games, it is great, and if you like GG designs, or heavy details, you will love it, if not, you won't

(oh, just in case, GG is the designer, for wargames, would say he is one of the Hall of Famers and I Would/will buy any game he releases and so far, I have loved them all)

oh, by the by, the manal is a PDF file, readable from the computer, or you can print it out, which if you print it out at a store, make sure you get a price first (lets say some people got sticker shock when they had it done http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

HARD_Sarge