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munnst
09-28-2004, 07:53 AM
Being the aircraft that sunk the most tonnage during world war 2 does anyone know if it is planned to include one in PF for this or furture releases?

munnst
09-28-2004, 07:53 AM
Being the aircraft that sunk the most tonnage during world war 2 does anyone know if it is planned to include one in PF for this or furture releases?

BSS_Goat
09-28-2004, 08:03 AM
BSS_Goat <------- not flying anything w/ Fairy in the name

munnst
09-28-2004, 08:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BSS_Goat:
BSS_Goat &lt;------- not flying anything w/ Fairy in the name <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They destroyed the Italian fleet at Taranto and crippled the Bismark. Not bad for a bi-plane :-)

Zyzbot
09-28-2004, 09:02 AM
"Destroyed" is a bit excessive. They did significant damage ..yes indeed...but the Italian fleet was not destroyed.

BSS_Goat
09-28-2004, 09:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by munnst:
They destroyed the Italian fleet at Taranto and crippled the Bismark. Not bad for a bi-plane :-) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just making fun of the name m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Kinda like "I hope we get the Homosexual Carp, it kicked @ss"

SKULLS_CoyMS
09-28-2004, 09:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Being the aircraft that sunk the most tonnage during world war 2 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

just curious....do you have any numbers to back up such a claim Munnst?

F19_Orheim
09-28-2004, 11:39 AM
The "Stringbag" is beeing worked on by the looks of it on www.netwings.org (http://www.netwings.org)

If it will find it's way into Pf only time will tell but considering the calender..... hmmmmm

p1ngu666
09-28-2004, 11:43 AM
most successfull allied plane, dunno about overall, your lookin at fw200,ju88,ju87, italian trimotor thing aswell.
so maybe...
yes its being worked on, my friend dave is making it, LOD 0 and uv mapping are 90% i think, then hes gotta do damage model and ive gotta do the skins http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

ill haveto get in touch with oleg, got some other things too give/show him aswell

owlwatcher
09-28-2004, 01:06 PM
The SBD may rate quite high on tonnage sunk

fire-fox1
09-28-2004, 01:16 PM
yer but it did inspier the attak on perl harber. (inc. the wooden torpedo extenshions)

VW-IceFire
09-28-2004, 03:13 PM
Also the Fairey Firefly...thats another one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Pingu is helping work on a Swordfish. Not sure when it'll be included or when it'll be completed. Best of luck to him...its progressing well.

One13
09-28-2004, 03:29 PM
The Firefly did see action in the Pacific, it's a pity no-one is modelling it.
It would be a good ground-attack plane- 4x20mm cannon, rockets or 2,000lb of bombs.
One version carried sixteen 60lb rockets, although that might have been a post-war version.

Snootles
09-28-2004, 04:49 PM
And don't forget the Fairey Barracuda!

http://www.tayyareci.com/digerucaklar/ingiltere/ww2/barracuda.jpg

Fliger747
09-28-2004, 08:23 PM
The 'stringbag' was effective in the Atlantic theater (1) nobody else had carriers) (2) the weathe was stinky so they could usally use that for cover (3) anything done against the Itallians in war doesn't count (4) it could be operated in pretty bad Atlantic weather.

On the other side, it was so slow it couldn't catch the Itallian Fleet steaming into the wind, did no damage to Scharhorst and Gniessnau passaging the channel when faced with air opposition.

I can't imagine any situation when the stringbag would have been more effective than the TBF in the Pacific theater.

LEXX_Luthor
09-28-2004, 08:33 PM
I'll fly anything with Fairey in the name.

When I was a small squish, Pop got me a sweet airplane magazine issue devoted to WW2 planes...had all the following

I~16
B~26
Pe~2
Ki~43
Yak~9
He~219
KingFisher
Me~210/410
FAIREY BATTLE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif
Westland Lysander
...possibly others...

Basically, a crapp plane magazine (some exceptions). Ever since first reading about Fairey Battle I had an infatuation with long canopy fairings. Finally got to sim one with Bf~110 over the FB. Magazine was my first introduction to Easter Front. Been attracted to tubbie I~16 ever since, and the top view foto looking down on the feminumnum slender body of Ki~43 still burns in my memory. Always ~loved~ Fairey Battle....Awsum canopy!

Need Flyable B~10.

Snootles
09-28-2004, 08:37 PM
The Fulmar has a wicked greenhouse canopy for the observer. I hope there's one in BoB...

When the Barracuda and Firefly make it into Pacific Fighters I will wet myself.

munnst
09-29-2004, 01:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS_CoyMs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Being the aircraft that sunk the most tonnage during world war 2 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

just curious....do you have any numbers to back up such a claim Munnst? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes...

http://www.aviationartprints.com/new_page_2.htm

and

http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/pdf/Fairey_Swordfish_TH-M.PDF

:-)

SKULLS_CoyMS
09-29-2004, 08:51 AM
1st,I in now way mean to discount the role of the Swordfish or the brave men who flew them.

your 1st link

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> The Swordfish sunk more enemy ships (by Tonnage) than any other aircraft acting in the same roles <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

notice the same role disclaimer...that leaves a lot of wiggle room

your 2nd link,gives a lot of info,but when it talks of tonnage sunk,the only example it list
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>With the war in the desert taking its toll on the British Army it was decided to locate a Squadron of
SWORDFISH at Hal Far, Malta specifically to intercept German shipping supplies then headed for North
Africa and Rommel‚‚ā¨ôs Afrika Corps. This was successfully accomplished in June 1940 and before the end
of the year 830 Squadron had sunk 9,000 tons of enemy shipping. Between May and November 830
Squadron was to account for a further 110,000 tons of enemy shipping sunk including damaging another
130,000 tons, this being a record never to be
equaled. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hmmmm...never equaled...well let see...between July 18 and December 8th,a 1 month shorter time span, VB-19 of the USS Lexington was responsible for over 160,ooo tons sunk and 245,000 tons damaged
http://www.geocities.com/hsemerson/vb19.html
and I could find no records of the tonnage sunk by Stukas,wich would be very large also

Not trying to start a big flame here...just saying each country makes claims...and the Swordfisf did great damage....but IMHO ...I will go wih the SB2C Helldiver
which also makes the same claim
http://www.sb2chelldiver.org/index.htm

Zyzbot
09-29-2004, 09:37 AM
and then there is this qualified claim:

"Considered the most destructive air weapon of the U.S. Navy, the SBD Dauntless sank over 300,000 tons of enemy ships, a greater tonnage of <span class="ev_code_RED">Japanese</span> shipping than any other Allied aircraft during the war! "

Aaron_GT
09-29-2004, 09:38 AM
"One version carried sixteen 60lb rockets, although that might have been a post-war version."

wartime version.