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ojcar1971
04-03-2006, 08:55 AM
There's a little problem in this simulator: both Regia Aeronautica and IJAAF lacks bombers, but I have read somewhere that Japan bought 85 Fiat B.R. 20 bombers from Italie. If someone include a B.R. 20 in a next patch (and a pair of skins too), we could have a bomber for Regia Aeronautica and IJAAF. I know is not the best bomber available for Italians and Japs, but it's more "economical" in time that create Savoia 79 and Ki 21 (among others). What do you think?

ojcar1971
04-03-2006, 08:55 AM
There's a little problem in this simulator: both Regia Aeronautica and IJAAF lacks bombers, but I have read somewhere that Japan bought 85 Fiat B.R. 20 bombers from Italie. If someone include a B.R. 20 in a next patch (and a pair of skins too), we could have a bomber for Regia Aeronautica and IJAAF. I know is not the best bomber available for Italians and Japs, but it's more "economical" in time that create Savoia 79 and Ki 21 (among others). What do you think?

ojcar1971
04-03-2006, 08:59 AM
Besides, B.R. 20 fought Battle of Britain and it's sure they have modelled it for the new game. With the neccesary modifications we could have this plane in PF. (the same with Bf 110C and Do 17, please)

JG53Frankyboy
04-03-2006, 09:00 AM
1. an AI controlled Ki-21 is on its way to be released in one of the comming toPay AdOns (most propably the second , the IL10/Manchuria one)

2. the BR20 will come with the Maddox BoB game (release 2007) , most propably as a flyable plane. because of this
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/falco_bob.htm (http://www.dalnet.se/%7Esurfcity/falco_bob.htm)

JG53Frankyboy
04-03-2006, 09:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ojcar1971:
Besides, B.R. 20 fought Battle of Britain and it's sure they have modelled it for the new game. With the neccesary modifications we could have this plane in PF. (the same with Bf 110C and Do 17, please) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

you underestimeate the difference betwenn the IL" series and the comming BOB engine.
and also the work atr all to put a plane in this game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ojcar1971
04-03-2006, 10:05 AM
I know they are different games, but there are things in common (we are essaying future flight models for BOB in PF now with the new patches, skins and some graffics can be used with modiffications) There is some work made, It's a shorter way that develop Ki 49, Ki 67, Ki 48, Savoia 79, CANT Z1007, etc. Those planes are very very cool, but have to be ENTIRELY made.
Ki 21 on the way??? What a wonderful new!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

ImpStarDuece
04-03-2006, 03:41 PM
No really,

from the little first hand information I have pieced together the engines are entirely different, both in the graphics engine and the flight engine.

What we have in IL-2 at the moment is a testing of just a few of the flight model algorithyms. CrazyIvan mentioned that it was about 15% of the complexity of the upcoming BoB model. So it's embryonic at best.

In all likelyhood, BoB will not be backwards compatiable with IL-2 at all.

Given the new standards of modeling demonstrated in the early development screenshots, its fairly likely that it will take singinificantly longer to create a model for BoB.

HotelBushranger
04-04-2006, 04:26 AM
Man, BoB sounds like some revolutionary stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I think Oleg should get knighted for his service to the virtual aviation community http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Maraz_5SA
04-04-2006, 05:10 AM
BR.20 was not used by Japan in WWII, only in Second Sino-Japanese War. Moreover the variant used in BoB and the rest of WWII by Italy was the BR.20M, that is different from the original BR.20 (expecially the nose)

Maraz

ojcar1971
04-04-2006, 06:54 AM
What a pity boys! I though this was a good idea, but it's not technical nor historically accurate. But we're going to have Ki 21!!! I'd like some italian bomber as well