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tjbyrum1
04-03-2011, 10:11 AM
In AC, everyone knows what Eagle Vision is. Blue means allies, Red is enemy/blood, Gold is target/objective... we all know what Eagle Vision is.

But I was wondering something. Assume a Templar, who poses as an Assassin, dresses as an Assassin, and all. There is no possible way you could physically tell he was a Templar, no way. Okay, if an Assassin used Eagle Vision on this 'Templar' would he appear Blue or Red?

Okay, just assume here for a moment that if one Assassin suddenly betrayed everyone and went to kill an Assassin, would the soon-to-be-dead Assasin be able to use Eagle Vision and see him as Red... or would he still be Blue?

tjbyrum1
04-03-2011, 10:11 AM
In AC, everyone knows what Eagle Vision is. Blue means allies, Red is enemy/blood, Gold is target/objective... we all know what Eagle Vision is.

But I was wondering something. Assume a Templar, who poses as an Assassin, dresses as an Assassin, and all. There is no possible way you could physically tell he was a Templar, no way. Okay, if an Assassin used Eagle Vision on this 'Templar' would he appear Blue or Red?

Okay, just assume here for a moment that if one Assassin suddenly betrayed everyone and went to kill an Assassin, would the soon-to-be-dead Assasin be able to use Eagle Vision and see him as Red... or would he still be Blue?

ChaosxNetwork
04-03-2011, 10:16 AM
Yeah, they would show up as red even in an Assassin's Clothing because Eagle Vision works of the hormones or something that everyone give off.

Xanatos2007
04-03-2011, 10:21 AM
Hence that one red Assassin outside Masyaf (in the Kingdom) in AC1, the one who helped Robert get inside.

Jamal, I think his name was.

tjbyrum1
04-03-2011, 10:24 AM
I never knew about that Red Assassin.

gamertam
04-03-2011, 12:35 PM
Would a Templar Vision from ACB MP would work in this case?

It's effect: reveal the presence and nature of all personas in sight. Located target in Morphed group or Disguise.

Oh never mind, Assassin can't uses Templar Vision...wait can't they?

El_Sjietah
04-03-2011, 12:38 PM
One of the infiltrators in the Thieves Guild in ACB doesn't show up red though. It's in one of the later Thief missions. You follow him to a certain spot where you get ambushed and he doesn't turn red until you get there.

Abeonis
04-03-2011, 02:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tjbyrum1:
In AC, everyone knows what Eagle Vision is. Blue means allies, Red is enemy/blood, Gold is target/objective... we all know what Eagle Vision is.

But I was wondering something. Assume a Templar, who poses as an Assassin, dresses as an Assassin, and all. There is no possible way you could physically tell he was a Templar, no way. Okay, if an Assassin used Eagle Vision on this 'Templar' would he appear Blue or Red?

Okay, just assume here for a moment that if one Assassin suddenly betrayed everyone and went to kill an Assassin, would the soon-to-be-dead Assasin be able to use Eagle Vision and see him as Red... or would he still be Blue? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not really how it works. Individuals are coloured according as to how they are percieved, not their true intentions. For example, up until the very end of Assassin's Creed, Al Mulaim is seen by Altair as an ally, so he shows up blue. It's only at the end, when Robert de Sable informs Altair of Al Mualim's true allegiances that that changes.

The same goes for the traitor mentioned by El_Sjietah. Ezio did not know he was a traitor until he admitted it to him; Ezio had no idea why the man was running from him at first.

GunnarGunderson
04-03-2011, 02:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abeonis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tjbyrum1:
In AC, everyone knows what Eagle Vision is. Blue means allies, Red is enemy/blood, Gold is target/objective... we all know what Eagle Vision is.

But I was wondering something. Assume a Templar, who poses as an Assassin, dresses as an Assassin, and all. There is no possible way you could physically tell he was a Templar, no way. Okay, if an Assassin used Eagle Vision on this 'Templar' would he appear Blue or Red?

Okay, just assume here for a moment that if one Assassin suddenly betrayed everyone and went to kill an Assassin, would the soon-to-be-dead Assasin be able to use Eagle Vision and see him as Red... or would he still be Blue? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not really how it works. Individuals are coloured according as to how they are percieved, not their true intentions. For example, up until the very end of Assassin's Creed, Al Mulaim is seen by Altair as an ally, so he shows up blue. It's only at the end, when Robert de Sable informs Altair of Al Mualim's true allegiances that that changes.

The same goes for the traitor mentioned by El_Sjietah. Ezio did not know he was a traitor until he admitted it to him; Ezio had no idea why the man was running from him at first. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> in AC1 eagle vision was a creation of the animus, just a physical manifestation of altair's perception. In ACII it was retconned to be an ability passed down from those who came before to peer into someone's soul and see their true intentions

ThaWhistle
04-03-2011, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BradKinn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abeonis:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tjbyrum1:
In AC, everyone knows what Eagle Vision is. Blue means allies, Red is enemy/blood, Gold is target/objective... we all know what Eagle Vision is.

But I was wondering something. Assume a Templar, who poses as an Assassin, dresses as an Assassin, and all. There is no possible way you could physically tell he was a Templar, no way. Okay, if an Assassin used Eagle Vision on this 'Templar' would he appear Blue or Red?

Okay, just assume here for a moment that if one Assassin suddenly betrayed everyone and went to kill an Assassin, would the soon-to-be-dead Assasin be able to use Eagle Vision and see him as Red... or would he still be Blue? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not really how it works. Individuals are coloured according as to how they are percieved, not their true intentions. For example, up until the very end of Assassin's Creed, Al Mulaim is seen by Altair as an ally, so he shows up blue. It's only at the end, when Robert de Sable informs Altair of Al Mualim's true allegiances that that changes.

The same goes for the traitor mentioned by El_Sjietah. Ezio did not know he was a traitor until he admitted it to him; Ezio had no idea why the man was running from him at first. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> in AC1 eagle vision was a creation of the animus, just a physical manifestation of altair's perception. In ACII it was retconned to be an ability passed down from those who came before to peer into someone's soul and see their true intentions </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, eagle vision was mentioned as an "sixth sense" that altair had. If you can find the animus tutorial on youtube, it says that.

notafanboy
04-03-2011, 03:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xanatos2007:
Hence that one red Assassin outside Masyaf (in the Kingdom) in AC1, the one who helped Robert get inside.

Jamal, I think his name was. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
i always kill him when im in the kingdom.

DavisP92
04-03-2011, 05:48 PM
well actually the eagle vision would be able to tell if he was an templar b4 he did anything. well the unlocked eagle vision probably. Kinda hard to explain, but the eagle vision is the sixth sense. and the sixth sense is knowledge, even knowledge of the future. however the eagle vision that all the assassin's have had wasn't completely unlocked. so i guess theoritically it is possible in AC. but well, its a game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif so either way it's what the Ubisoft wants it to be.

nightfurie13
04-04-2011, 08:17 PM
when altair went on fighting his fellow assassin brothers in masyaf who were controlled by al mualin via the AOE, they were all red when i used the eagle vision. they were perceived as enemies although they weren't, really.

DavisP92
04-05-2011, 07:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nightfurie13:
when altair went on fighting his fellow assassin brothers in masyaf who were controlled by al mualin via the AOE, they were all red when i used the eagle vision. they were perceived as enemies although they weren't, really. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well they were enemies and viewed as such because they were threats on altair's life. Also Altair at first didn't know they were being controlled.

Evan52395
04-05-2011, 08:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by El_Sjietah:
One of the infiltrators in the Thieves Guild in ACB doesn't show up red though. It's in one of the later Thief missions. You follow him to a certain spot where you get ambushed and he doesn't turn red until you get there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's because following him was the objective so he appears gold before red.

El_Sjietah
04-06-2011, 11:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Evan52395:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by El_Sjietah:
One of the infiltrators in the Thieves Guild in ACB doesn't show up red though. It's in one of the later Thief missions. You follow him to a certain spot where you get ambushed and he doesn't turn red until you get there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's because following him was the objective so he appears gold before red. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why would Ezio follow him if he knew it was an enemy?

Inorganic9_2
04-06-2011, 11:26 AM
I've always seen it as red being people who would do you harm, not necessarily enemies. Not all the city guards can be actively your personal enemy, now can they? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif