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Bearcat99
09-04-2007, 07:42 AM
http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/images/monroe17.jpg (http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/advisormonroe.htm#q1)
Lt. Col. Monroe Q Williams

I believe this is the same Monroe Q often seen on Hyperlobby no?

Bearcat99
09-04-2007, 07:42 AM
http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/images/monroe17.jpg (http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/advisormonroe.htm#q1)
Lt. Col. Monroe Q Williams

I believe this is the same Monroe Q often seen on Hyperlobby no?

TgD Thunderbolt56
09-04-2007, 07:58 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif wha...

K_Freddie
09-04-2007, 08:26 AM
"Elaboration... is all I want from you uhuh uhuh!"
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DuxCorvan
09-04-2007, 08:29 AM
?

Capt.LoneRanger
09-04-2007, 08:46 AM
The very same.

And BTW I am the one and only Lone Ranger and my world is in black and white. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

IFly_1968
09-04-2007, 08:48 AM
Yes one in the same WWII P47 and P51 pilot

Bearcat99
09-04-2007, 08:58 AM
There is a man named Monroe Q who from my understanding is in his 80s and he flies on HL. He used to fly with the 353rd. I saw him as recently as @ 2 weeks ago, HE is that man... unless someone is using his name. From my understanding and from the people who know him.. it is HIM... the real deal. Dont shoot the messenger... Im just tossiong out props where they are due.

DuxCorvan
09-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Don't mind it, BC. It's just that you jumped here with that, and without any previous reference, most of us had no idea what you were talkin' 'bout. Besides, that pic doesn't seem to work. I can't see it.

I'm not in HL anymore -I've never been much, anyway- and I'm unaware of what's cooking there these days.

EDIT: Now I see him. Are you sure he's legit? Someone met him in RL? That's cool. I'd like to know his opinion on the sim.

BrotherVoodoo
09-04-2007, 09:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I saw him as recently as @ 2 weeks ago, HE is that man... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is very cool. I will keep my eyes peeled for him and give him a big =SALUTE=

SlickStick
09-04-2007, 09:40 AM
We've been flying with Lt. Col. Monroe Q. Williams since Jane's WWII Fighters. I've been on comms with him several times. He's been with the virtual 353rd for many years. He was also a consultant for IL-2 and possibly Forgotten Battles. You'll see his name in the credits of one of the manuals.

IIRC, one of his mounts was called "Willy the Wolf".

The first time I got on comms with him, I was very humbled by some of his shared experiences and thanked him for his contribution in WWII.

He quietly replied, "We were just doing our job."

DuxCorvan
09-04-2007, 11:25 AM
This guy, then. That's 'Willie the Wolf' in the back:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/DuxCorvan//Monroeq_willie_the_wolfP-47.jpg

ddpairborne59
09-04-2007, 12:07 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif That is soooo excellent !! BIG ~S~ Lt. Col. Monroe Q. Williams.

SeaFireLIV
09-04-2007, 12:16 PM
I would be so incredibly humbled if it was really him that I think I would just keep crashing on take off if I had the honour of actually flying with him.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ytareh
09-04-2007, 12:17 PM
Great news...hope he enjoys the game.

BSS_Goat
09-04-2007, 12:24 PM
Seems he likes RC also:

http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/advisormonroe.htm

joeap
09-04-2007, 12:28 PM
Awed. None of the smileys can convey what I want.

rnzoli
09-04-2007, 01:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ytareh:
Great news...hope he enjoys the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/monroe.htm

Are the flight models in most games realistic?

"I have never understood why Sim developers think, if you do a 360 degree turn in a steep bank, you are suppose to stall out, flip into a flat spin, and crash. I think this may be a factor in the pilots coming from IL2 not liking the planes in cfs 3. I have flown with the 353rd Virtual Fighter Group for about two and half years. When IL2 came out, most of the 25 pilots moved over to IL2. I preferred to stay in Janes WW2 and fly American planes. On occasion , some of the pilots come back to Janes to fly with me.....They find it weird and different. So, if you fly the "harder to fly" , "Easy to stall and spin", type Aircraft , it becomes the norm. But, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE REALISTIC. These planes are much more stable than that. In 22 years of flying Airforce planes, I never personally knew of one plane that went into a flat spin." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

SlickStick
09-04-2007, 02:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ytareh:
Great news...hope he enjoys the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/monroe.htm

Are the flight models in most games realistic?

"I have never understood why Sim developers think, if you do a 360 degree turn in a steep bank, you are suppose to stall out, flip into a flat spin, and crash. I think this may be a factor in the pilots coming from IL2 not liking the planes in cfs 3. I have flown with the 353rd Virtual Fighter Group for about two and half years. When IL2 came out, most of the 25 pilots moved over to IL2. I preferred to stay in Janes WW2 and fly American planes. On occasion , some of the pilots come back to Janes to fly with me.....They find it weird and different. So, if you fly the "harder to fly" , "Easy to stall and spin", type Aircraft , it becomes the norm. But, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE REALISTIC. These planes are much more stable than that. In 22 years of flying Airforce planes, I never personally knew of one plane that went into a flat spin." </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The above quote must have been before the american planes were added to the IL-2 series, as Monroe has been flying with the 353rd for at least 5-6+ years that I recall. I joined Jane's WWII Fighters online in 2000 and remember seeing him shortly thereafter, possibly early 2001.

Interesting comments on spins though from a pilot who flew them. I'm suspecting planes did not yaw the way they do in-game (although much less in V4.08) when guns were fired either.

rnzoli
09-04-2007, 02:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The above quote must have been before the american planes were added to the IL-2 series </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Absolutely true http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now, imagine what could be his opinion of the American planes in IL-2, after he found the initial German and Russian planes "unstable"! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

carguy_
09-04-2007, 03:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
I would be so incredibly humbled if it was really him that I think I would just keep crashing on take off if I had the honour of actually flying with him.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OTOH a great joy to shoot him down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Rjel
09-04-2007, 03:48 PM
Too cool. Where are all the naysayers who said the remaining WWII era pilots weren't sharp enough to recall their own experiences with the A/C they racked up hundreds of hours in? It would be an honor to fly the same virtual sky with a man like that.

Wilburnator
09-04-2007, 07:10 PM
He flies in the hyperlobby as =353=MONROEQ many (if not all) nights, and when he's not in the HL on a given night, chances are he's on teamspeak.

He is a true gentleman, and a fun guy to fly with. I remember one night he went into detail about the various military birds he's flown, and it's a pretty impressive list!

SeaFireLIV
09-04-2007, 07:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
Too cool. Where are all the naysayers who said the remaining WWII era pilots weren't sharp enough to recall their own experiences with the A/C they racked up hundreds of hours in? . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder if he ever has any flashbacks while flying IL2?

I guess not, IL2 isn`t realistic enough, I think it would need one of those hydraulic type moving simulaters to make that happen. Still.... even a backfiring car can cause an old vet to flashback.

Copperhead311th
09-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Wow you guys just finding out about this now Bearcat? lol
i thought Everyone knew about that. Monroe Q is i super nice person. I've chated with him once or twice in HL. I wish we had more ppl like him around this sim. This world will be a sad sad place IMO once men like that are gone from this owrld. My Grandfather included. the qualities that reside in the very nature of these men & thier vast knowlage of early combat avaition will be lost and sorely missed when it's gone.

Bearcat99
09-04-2007, 07:53 PM
No... I am not just finding out about this....
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I believe this is the same Monroe Q often seen on Hyperlobby no? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's just the first time I have seen a picture.... I have known about Monroe since the old 361st was active... back when the 99th was a squad of two.... me & Diamond. Even spoke to him once or twice on comms... but I never saw a pic. As soon as I saw thw pic and read the bio I knew who it was... it is still neat to see.... and to know that this man at 80 something still has the desire to play.. I hope I NEVER loose that.

SeaFireLIV
09-04-2007, 08:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
it is still neat to see.... and to know that this man at 80 something still has the desire to play.. I hope I NEVER loose that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same here.

Enforcer572005
09-04-2007, 08:32 PM
We need to absorb as much knowledge and insight as we can get whenever we have the pleasure of talking to these guys.

The Hellhounds and the Dogz have enjoyed flying with Taildragger a few times. He flew Hellcats and told us the proper way to approach carriers, which is nothing like we normally do it in the sim. Luckily we CAN simulate that as well.

I love talking to these guys who were there when we needed them.
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buzzsaw1939
09-04-2007, 09:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rnzoli:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ytareh:
Great news...hope he enjoys the game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">http://www.rcwarbirds.com/Advisors/Histroical/monroe.htm

Are the flight models in most games realistic?

"I have never understood why Sim developers think, if you do a 360 degree turn in a steep bank, you are suppose to stall out, flip into a flat spin, and crash. I think this may be a factor in the pilots coming from IL2 not liking the planes in cfs 3. I have flown with the 353rd Virtual Fighter Group for about two and half years. When IL2 came out, most of the 25 pilots moved over to IL2. I preferred to stay in Janes WW2 and fly American planes. On occasion , some of the pilots come back to Janes to fly with me.....They find it weird and different. So, if you fly the "harder to fly" , "Easy to stall and spin", type Aircraft , it becomes the norm. But, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE REALISTIC. These planes are much more stable than that. In 22 years of flying Airforce planes, I never personally knew of one plane that went into a flat spin." </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the thing that erks me the most! thats why I turn off stalls and spins, but guess what? when I got 46, I turned it off and it makes no difference, it dose it anyway! now I just have to live with it.

I've also learned not to make comments about flaws in the game, talk about catching flack, and explanations about how I need more practice, and don't understand aerodynamics, wow! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

SNACKY-353rd
09-04-2007, 09:11 PM
Not to get off the subject but Monroe has offered his knowledge of the P47 and P51 to Oleg and was turned away when IL2 was just starting to become popular. Oleg has been known to comment on his lack of confidence in real pilot accounts. Oleg is a numbers man and it's a shame guys like Monroe don't have more input on these WWII games.

I have the honor and pleasure of talking to monroe on comms during the week and I ask questions about his experiences often. Sometimes it makes me angry to hear what Monroe has to say about the real P51 and P47 and then see how these planes are butchered in IL2. I appreciate the sim that Oleg has given us, but it is far from realistic.

Hopefully BOB will be better, but it will be a long time before we see American warbirds in a sim again.

Monroe and the men he served with are American heroes and they deserve our respect. I don't think there is anyone here who thinks otherwise.

Salute Monroe!

Waldo.Pepper
09-04-2007, 09:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">numbers man </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Imagine for a moment if you or anyone tried to make a flight sim and did it using, as a primary source pilot accounts.

What would the final product look like I wonder.

Il-2 is a game, and in my view the best one of it genre (overall) that we have.

Perfect? Far far from it.
Best? By a country mile.

JUANT2
09-04-2007, 09:58 PM
&lt;S&gt; Gentleman, and Ladies if viewing.

I have flown with many of you over the last decade, and have enjoyed many a battle. MONROE is a pleasure to have with us. He has been with us going on 10 years, and what a complete gentleman he is.

He'll tell you about stories while he was making a ground run in a P-47 and pulling up with bricks from the buildings stuck in his engine, missing an aileron after a flak hit and continually rolling the plane over and over again on his way home, just to make sure he could.

Please say "hello" to him and Salute him. There aren't many left that would even talk about the WWII days, much less wing you for a co-op, or take your money at party poker.com...lol &lt;S&gt;

Monroe, it's a treat sir &lt;S&gt; J2

SNACKY-353rd
09-04-2007, 11:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">numbers man </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Imagine for a moment if you or anyone tried to make a flight sim and did it using, as a primary source pilot accounts.

What would the final product look like I wonder.

Il-2 is a game, and in my view the best one of it genre (overall) that we have.

Perfect? Far far from it.
Best? By a country mile. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The US planes in this video game were added to gain US dollars. Who cares if they are accurate or not after the fact?
A smart designer interested in realism takes both numbers and real world data and uses them both.

Truth is we are so used to dealing with bias on the US side that we gave up a long time ago asking for fixes. When BOB comes out the whole process will start again and once the US planes start showing up we will pay our money and beg for fixes that will never come.

Best? only due to lack of options my friend. I only hope that there are other combat flight sims on the horizon and i hope guys like Monroe are a part of them.

Daiichidoku
09-04-2007, 11:44 PM
ive known mq for some time, a fine fellow, and all class...even if he was a complete "revive killer" at janes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif...a fighting spirit if ever there was one

i recall seeing his guncam clips a few years back, whacking some trucks on a bridge with his jugs 50cal battery

is it uploaded anywhere, anyone? mq? 353?

Waldo.Pepper
09-05-2007, 01:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SNACKY-353rd:
The US planes in this video game were added to gain US dollars. Who cares if they are accurate or not after the fact? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sorry but the weakness of (that biased) opinion of yours is that, IF that were the case then I would think that the US planes would pander to the whims of the American audience to please said audience to earn even more dollars. And I don't think that they do.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A smart designer interested in realism takes both numbers and real world data and uses them both. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think so too! And I think that this is what Oleg and Co. have done. However, there is a weakness is such a system. Consider the following question to discover what that weakness is. Suppose Oleg & Co. had 100 or only 10 pilot accounts/testimony to choose from. And 1 or perhaps 2 of them were divergent from the rest. What should be done with that pilots testimony/opinion?

What you are calling bias is in fact opinion.

SNACKY-353rd
09-05-2007, 02:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SNACKY-353rd:
The US planes in this video game were added to gain US dollars. Who cares if they are accurate or not after the fact? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sorry but the weakness of (that biased) opinion of yours is that, IF that were the case then I would think that the US planes would pander to the whims of the American audience to please said audience to earn even more dollars. And I don't think that they do.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">A smart designer interested in realism takes both numbers and real world data and uses them both. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think so too! And I think that this is what Oleg and Co. have done. However, there is a weakness is such a system. Consider the following question to discover what that weakness is. Suppose Oleg & Co. had 100 or only 10 pilot accounts/testimony to choose from. And 1 or perhaps 2 of them were divergent from the rest. What should be done with that pilots testimony/opinion?

What you are calling bias is in fact opinion. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And of course you are completely unbiased. lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Waldo.Pepper
09-05-2007, 02:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And of course you are completely unbiased. lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No mate I never claimed to be! Anymore than yourself.

I however think that to claim bias, as opposed to pointing out an error or an opinion, you need convincing evidence.

If for example the German planes were superior by leaps and bounds, and were modelled without flaws - then that might say something. Take a look at all the 'bar' threads on the FW-190. Look at all the evidence that was put forth to support a fix for that plane. Yet it was never fixed. Is that evidence of bias?

This player in this thread ... can't handle P-47's up high. Is that evidence of pro USAAF bias?

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8591037785

If it is not then why don't you think it it?
When does opinion change to bias? This is the central question, that is likely impossible to answer.

HotelBushranger
09-05-2007, 04:01 AM
Guys! Keep it civil, this is not the thread to be having an argument. Keep it to PM's please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

BlindBatMac
09-05-2007, 02:08 PM
When you see him on line, ask him how he got the nick "Willie the Wolf" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Bearcat99
09-05-2007, 02:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
Guys! Keep it civil, this is not the thread to be having an argument. Keep it to PM's please http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I couldn't have said that better myself....

Friendly_flyer
09-05-2007, 02:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JUANT2:
He'll tell you about stories while he was making a ground run in a P-47 and pulling up with bricks from the buildings stuck in his engine, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, I knew the P-47 was a sturdy bird, but that really must have been a very close shave!

Jaws2002
09-05-2007, 02:56 PM
I had the pleasure to fly with and against him quite a few times.

I remember one time, not long ago we were fighting three vs three at around 11000-13000m, for about half a hour. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Was awesome. Six jugs fighting for that little altitude advantage that will decide the outcome of the battle.
Was an absolutely awesome sight. And the fact that one of the players was the real deal, really made it a unique experience. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

That was a memorable fight.
Sir MONROEQ and =353=, I Salute you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Copperhead311th
09-05-2007, 08:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JUANT2:
He'll tell you about stories while he was making a ground run in a P-47 and pulling up with bricks from the buildings stuck in his engine, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, I knew the P-47 was a sturdy bird, but that really must have been a very close shave! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

it was quite common for Crew Chifs to find Cylender heads blown right out of the engine by flakk...and they would still run like a champ.
there are many many cases where P-47's would RTB with parts of tree tops & telephone/telegraph poles hanging to the under carrage. And of course Bob Johnson's p-47 had over 200 hols in it from an FW-190 and flew home. (althoguh some of our revitonist historians around here will say that ia all BS because as every good LW pilot knows 1 good MG round from bead 6 & the tail falls right off the P-47.) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

DKoor
09-05-2007, 11:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I'd like to know his opinion on the sim. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>+1

GR142_Astro
09-05-2007, 11:41 PM
+1,000

I just don't Oleg has the US birds right.

han freak solo
09-06-2007, 04:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jaws2002:
I had the pleasure to fly with and against him quite a few times.

I remember one time, not long ago we were fighting three vs three at around 11000-13000m, for about half a hour. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Was awesome. Six jugs fighting for that little altitude advantage that will decide the outcome of the battle.
Was an absolutely awesome sight. And the fact that one of the players was the real deal, really made it a unique experience. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

That was a memorable fight.
Sir MONROEQ and =353=, I Salute you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd like to know what everyone thought about his simming ability. Please?