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MichaelMar
07-11-2005, 10:33 AM
http://www.ilduce.net/mp3.htm

While on the subject: Oleg, since the G50 will be in BOB can you at least make the G50 'right' in IL2? The turn rate is mess-up, horrible spin, no bomb racks to name a few...

I look forward to flying the G50 but the one presently in game is porked.

enjoy)

MichaelMar
07-11-2005, 10:33 AM
http://www.ilduce.net/mp3.htm

While on the subject: Oleg, since the G50 will be in BOB can you at least make the G50 'right' in IL2? The turn rate is mess-up, horrible spin, no bomb racks to name a few...

I look forward to flying the G50 but the one presently in game is porked.

enjoy)

FritzGryphon
07-11-2005, 10:40 AM
Do you have any specifics? I am curious about the performance characteristics of the G50, but can't find any info.

To be sure though, it turns much better than in did in 3.04. As does the CR42.

actionhank1786
07-11-2005, 04:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MichaelMar:
http://www.ilduce.net/mp3.htm

While on the subject: Oleg, since the G50 will be in BOB can you at least make the G50 'right' in IL2? The turn rate is mess-up, horrible spin, no bomb racks to name a few...

I look forward to flying the G50 but the one presently in game is porked.

enjoy) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you want support for your cause, you've got to have support for your facts

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-12-2005, 08:02 AM
When I fly my G50 I hum the tune to Hawaii Five 0.

Sharkey888
07-12-2005, 06:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by actionhank1786:
If you want support for your cause, you've got to have support for your facts </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like no bomb racks in 1940-they were added in '42 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Vipez-
07-13-2005, 09:23 AM
What i've read, The Fiat G.50 was considered stable and easy to fly.. it had sustained turn of 16 seconds (very impressive), and finnish pilots had quite some success with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

it certainly is undermodelled in terms of turn rate, and seems way too unstable to fly.. never heard of Fiats having any spin problems..

Vipez-
07-13-2005, 09:26 AM
btw Ramstein's Feuer Frei suits nice, when flying G.50 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

269GA-Veltro
07-13-2005, 09:44 AM
Some italian "musics" here...ready for FB-PF.

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/fb_music.htm

MichaelMar
07-13-2005, 11:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vipez-:
What i've read, The Fiat G.50 was considered stable and easy to fly.. it had sustained turn of 16 seconds (very impressive), and finnish pilots had quite some success with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

it certainly is undermodelled in terms of turn rate, and seems way too unstable to fly.. never heard of Fiats having any spin problems.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Exactly, the Fiat G50 is TERRIBLY under modeled! Seems like it was tossed in at the last moment...rush job.

I just hope the G50 gets reworked before BoB...shame it had to be that way(((

new-fherathras
07-13-2005, 11:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vipez-:
What i've read, The Fiat G.50 was considered stable and easy to fly.. it had sustained turn of 16 seconds (very impressive), and finnish pilots had quite some success with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Finnish pilots where quite successfull in almost everything they flew http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

269GA-Veltro
07-13-2005, 12:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by new-fherathras:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vipez-:
What i've read, The Fiat G.50 was considered stable and easy to fly.. it had sustained turn of 16 seconds (very impressive), and finnish pilots had quite some success with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Finnish pilots where quite successfull in almost everything they flew http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting what are you talking about guys, very interesting.
We italians don't consider the G50 a good fighter...but we now about its Finnish service. Probably it wasn't so bad...

<span class="ev_code_yellow">Finnish pilots where quite successfull in almost everything they flew.</span>

Right! G50 in FB is not undermodelled. Finnish pilots in WW2 were overmodelled! Probably they have been the best WW2 pilots, for sure more better than the russian pilots at that time.

P.S.:Also some of the our pilots fought in Finland with the G50.

FritzGryphon
07-13-2005, 01:15 PM
I find G50 in PF has 18 second sustained turn at 1000m, 110% power and 100% fuel.

Abraxa
07-13-2005, 03:56 PM
There are sevaral reports concerning the G50, written by the Italian pilots. I'm sorry I don't have them in English.

The G50 was an unreliable bird, even in the words of an ace like Gorrini. The pilots didn't love it at all, because of its instability and tendence to the auto-rotation.

The Mc 200 was much better and because of its lack of competitivity, the G50 was soon used for the ground attack only, leaving the fighter role to better aircrafts.

I didn't fly it lately, but I doubt it can be considered a good bird, although the Finns performed nicely on it.

new-fherathras
07-13-2005, 04:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by new-fherathras:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vipez-:
What i've read, The Fiat G.50 was considered stable and easy to fly.. it had sustained turn of 16 seconds (very impressive), and finnish pilots had quite some success with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Finnish pilots where quite successfull in almost everything they flew http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting what are you talking about guys, very interesting.
We italians don't consider the G50 a good fighter...but we now about its Finnish service. Probably it wasn't so bad...

<span class="ev_code_yellow">Finnish pilots where quite successfull in almost everything they flew.</span>

Right! G50 in FB is not undermodelled. Finnish pilots in WW2 were overmodelled! Probably they have been the best WW2 pilots, for sure more better than the russian pilots at that time.

P.S.:Also some of the our pilots fought in Finland with the G50. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



You seem angry.


read my post again, no where in it did i say that the g50 is not undermodeled in FB.

I did not say that the finnish pilots in WW2 where overmodeled either.( My biggest respects to them!)

You also seem to read to much into my post, I would suggest calming down.

Did you understand that?



j√¬¶vla rauh√¬•l http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

269GA-Veltro
07-14-2005, 01:49 AM
You have misundertanded my post...sorry, i was not angry.

Finnish pilots did miracles with their G50, and they have been probably the best WW2 pilots (if i'm not wrong also the best Gustav pilots is finnish). I've quoted you words in yellow because is right what you said. "Under and over modelled" is only a my addition.

G50 was not a very good fighter...not at all, but in the hands of the finnish pilots it was great.

HotelBushranger
07-15-2005, 02:28 AM
When/if I do fly the G50, which is...once....I'd probably like to listen to Sing For Absolution by Muse http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

neural_dream
07-15-2005, 02:58 AM
A few comments about this post, totally irrelevant but irresistibly obvious.

The Finnish pilots were THE unsurpassed pilots of the war (and not only their pilots of course). So, let's not use them for comparisons. Let's use the Italians who fought as humans and didn't thrive with their G50s.

Is Il Duce still "celebrated" in Italy or is it just my impression? I wouldn't imagine the Germans selling little Hitlers in their tourist shops (which is what i was shocked to see in all of Sicily) or talking about the doctrine of Nazism in a http://www.hitler.net website while suggesting mp3s to download.

Ruy Horta
07-16-2005, 05:40 AM
Fascism was popular in Italy before the war and one might arguably say it still enjoys a lot of supporters, the current government under Berlusconi thrives openly under a fascist ideology and is able to function legitimately.

Fascism and Nazism have become blurred in the western liberal democracies, but they are not the same ideologies (like Socialism and Communism).

For years western democracies supported fascist Juntas in order to curb global communism (including in Italy).

Fascism is a continued "danger" which is still flirted with by many governments and sadly the people.

The dutch had been pointing fingers at Italy and Austria for years, until the arrival of a dutch equivalent who in no time (with the strong backing of a number of popular papers and TV stations) was able to attract many voters with what can be boiled down to fascist ideas. The man himself was murdered before the elections (first dutch political assassination since literally centuries), but he have stood a good chance.

More worrying was the fact that after his death people still voted for his new party, based on little more than vague guidelines and mostly xenophobia.

That's when I found out how men like Hitler can get to power...

That's when I found out that it can still happen today in modern liberal democracies...

Eternal vigilance indeed!

Vipez-
07-16-2005, 06:31 AM
Fiats were not build for winter conditions, which gave plenty of headache for finnish ground crews.

It's advantages were ability to outdive from most early war opponents (though it suffered from negative Gs..), and excelent rate of turn. I think it's a serious drawback in the game, since we are missing about two seconds in turnrate. G.50's damage model is also kinda wierd, it has some sort of weak spot, where sometimes even a short .303 burst simply explodes it..