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Ki_Rin
04-20-2004, 01:40 PM
Ok, lots of threads bout this, my own previous one was shot down in a hail or irrationality...
That there is "Uber" planes in FB...
that 3rd party modellers work hard on thier creations? YES
that if one doesnt like jets or "Ubers"(109Z, Ki84C, etc), to go to a more appropriate server? SURE
that 1C/Maddox games should not include these planes?MAYBE
Many ppl in FB do not like jets n UFOs...contrary to what some (cough cough blitzpigDDT) ppl think, the whining is NOT because they are hard to kill, or not, or that they kill to easy...
most pilots here have both killed and been killed by EVERY ac type, that is NOT the issue
many, probably most want a SIM, not crimson skies
lets keep A) servers free of any type that doesnt conform to being combat flown or flown any way shape or form after VE day
B) 1c/Maddox games either NOT accept these ac types, regardless of the skill and craft put in by the modeller, unless confirming to the above standards, OR, package them as proverbial what if types, possibly along with ww2 jet types/vertical lift ac
hoping to find a server sans 109Z (for example) is not a good solution....its not a solution at all...also, one cannot expect 1C to exclude them, many like them and want them, so to make $$$ they will always include them ($$$ over taste...sigh!)
Silly that jets are often banned, but others included...who cares that a 262 has same guns as 109Z, 262 (at least in a df server) is easy to counter...hard to kill, but easy to keep from being killed by them...
it seems (sadly) that FB is and probably will be further from a "sim" more and more as more UFO types are indtroduced...its too bad, but if thats the way, lets all stop shouting...lets either have combat types ONLY, or open it up and allow those 109Zs anf Ki84Cs right alongside Pe8s with 5000kg bombs and He162s and other jets...all or nothing, baby

(btw, from the text notes provided on the 109Z in game, it states the ONE that was built and never flown, was made from 2 bf109Fs...the 109G version was only proposed, never even built, thus the FB 109Z is not only a BASTARD ac, its a BASTARD ac twice removed from reality...PFT!)

Again, lets have a SIM with a basis in reality, just what a sim should be, and keep the dross fantasy stuff OUT, or open it up, EVRY types availible in df servers...fair is fair

Ki_Rin
04-20-2004, 01:40 PM
Ok, lots of threads bout this, my own previous one was shot down in a hail or irrationality...
That there is "Uber" planes in FB...
that 3rd party modellers work hard on thier creations? YES
that if one doesnt like jets or "Ubers"(109Z, Ki84C, etc), to go to a more appropriate server? SURE
that 1C/Maddox games should not include these planes?MAYBE
Many ppl in FB do not like jets n UFOs...contrary to what some (cough cough blitzpigDDT) ppl think, the whining is NOT because they are hard to kill, or not, or that they kill to easy...
most pilots here have both killed and been killed by EVERY ac type, that is NOT the issue
many, probably most want a SIM, not crimson skies
lets keep A) servers free of any type that doesnt conform to being combat flown or flown any way shape or form after VE day
B) 1c/Maddox games either NOT accept these ac types, regardless of the skill and craft put in by the modeller, unless confirming to the above standards, OR, package them as proverbial what if types, possibly along with ww2 jet types/vertical lift ac
hoping to find a server sans 109Z (for example) is not a good solution....its not a solution at all...also, one cannot expect 1C to exclude them, many like them and want them, so to make $$$ they will always include them ($$$ over taste...sigh!)
Silly that jets are often banned, but others included...who cares that a 262 has same guns as 109Z, 262 (at least in a df server) is easy to counter...hard to kill, but easy to keep from being killed by them...
it seems (sadly) that FB is and probably will be further from a "sim" more and more as more UFO types are indtroduced...its too bad, but if thats the way, lets all stop shouting...lets either have combat types ONLY, or open it up and allow those 109Zs anf Ki84Cs right alongside Pe8s with 5000kg bombs and He162s and other jets...all or nothing, baby

(btw, from the text notes provided on the 109Z in game, it states the ONE that was built and never flown, was made from 2 bf109Fs...the 109G version was only proposed, never even built, thus the FB 109Z is not only a BASTARD ac, its a BASTARD ac twice removed from reality...PFT!)

Again, lets have a SIM with a basis in reality, just what a sim should be, and keep the dross fantasy stuff OUT, or open it up, EVRY types availible in df servers...fair is fair

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04-20-2004, 02:57 PM
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WUAF_Co_Hero
04-20-2004, 03:08 PM
Woah, if you truely wan't people to read and comprehend your thread / posts, you'd better look into some grammar / syntax courses, because to me, this thread is one long sentence, that I don't have time to read.

Just a thought.

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Dunkelgrun
04-20-2004, 03:09 PM
Unreadable. So I didn't.

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Usberet
04-20-2004, 03:10 PM
I have no problems with the BF109z's or KI84c. I just jump in a P39 catch them from above as they try to turn or dive I just aim for the wing root and i occasionally kill them. SOmetimes i'm unlucky.

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04-20-2004, 03:58 PM
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SlickStick
04-20-2004, 05:00 PM
Um, isn't variety supposed to be the spice of life?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

Fly what you want. They fly what they want and we have a sim/game that has something for everybody. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Prof.Wizard
04-20-2004, 06:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Co_Hero:
Woah, if you truely wan't people to read and comprehend your thread / posts, you'd better look into some grammar / syntax courses, because to me, this thread is one long sentence, that I don't have time to read.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What he said.

Unreadable. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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04-20-2004, 06:38 PM
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Ki_Rin
04-20-2004, 07:16 PM
ok, how about this?
i feel that eventually FB will have any more fantasy planes, especially if 3 rd party modellers keep submitting their hard work
i have a problem with that if this game is supposed to be a sim, lets keep only real planes in it
however, a valid point is also "let them fly what they wanna", so why are some types, mainly jets barred from most servers?
if one wants to fly say, a biplane, why not? same for a 109Z, if u wanna, do it...but let me fly a jet, too, if i choose
however, using the let them fly whatever logic is flawed...wait till a truly uber type is realeased, or maybe the korean era stuff, and what will they do? ban it.
as much as id love to see so many other favorite types, keep it within reason, or let everyone fly anything, biplanes, ki84c, 109Z and jets...
if u fly a 109Z, why shouldnt i be able to fly a jet?

BuzzU
04-20-2004, 07:39 PM
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SlickStick
04-20-2004, 08:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ki_Rin:
ok, how about this?
i feel that eventually FB will have any more fantasy planes, especially if 3 rd party modellers keep submitting their hard work
i have a problem with that if this game is supposed to be a sim, lets keep only real planes in it
however, a valid point is also "let them fly what they wanna", so why are some types, mainly jets barred from most servers?
if one wants to fly say, a biplane, why not? same for a 109Z, if u wanna, do it...but let me fly a jet, too, if i choose
however, using the let them fly whatever logic is flawed...wait till a truly uber type is realeased, or maybe the korean era stuff, and what will they do? ban it.
as much as id love to see so many other favorite types, keep it within reason, or let everyone fly anything, biplanes, ki84c, 109Z and jets...
if u fly a 109Z, why shouldnt i be able to fly a jet?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Banning planes is bad, m'kay. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Hawgdog
04-21-2004, 04:43 AM
English lit poofties

Easy to read, even easier to laugh at someone taking the time to conjure up wit at how unreadable it is was. pfffft

Beware of the grammar cop, weenies,unless you've spell checked, MSWord'ed each and every one of your threads-too easy to find bafoonerie or an asshatted postajule.
I understand the thinking. prop sims. sure.
Either host or only join games that suit.
To think anyone would turn away a 'free' modeled plane no matter how useless, noobian or loserownian it may be... aaahhh..ahhhhh....aaahhhh.. AHHCHOO109Z...whew, excuse me....is re-gaddoggediculous.
Every plane in here, except some of the migs, 109s' 190's, spits, bombers and a couple of the italian planes has a right to fly, be flown or, yes, even owned in this game of skill, chance and luckery.
I've got the perfect pic for this thread but I'd get banned again.

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arcadeace
04-21-2004, 04:54 AM
What did you say Hawg?

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Hawgdog
04-21-2004, 05:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by arcadeace:
What did you say Hawg? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why thank you for introfusing my introspective on this postajule.
I like nothing more than pontification for the sake of clearizing the subject at hand.

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arcadeace
04-21-2004, 06:15 AM
You're a constant reminder why I failed in linguistics. But actually, I enjoyed the author's original post http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/93.gif

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Red_Storm
04-21-2004, 06:21 AM
i always found sentences quite annoying to read when they lack any kind of interpunction its like your sentences never have an end it reads funny too sometimes you need a full stop otherwise people will not know what the hell youre talking about so please remember this interpunction is good thank you

SUPERAEREO
04-21-2004, 06:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hawgdog:
Why thank you for introfusing my introspective on this postajule.
I like nothing more than pontification for the sake of clearizing the subject at hand.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Gee, for a moment I thought Hawgdog was George W. Bush...

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Hawgdog
04-21-2004, 06:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by arcadeace:
You're a constant reminder why I failed in linguistics. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I had an anthropology professor that used to look at me funny all the time...passed the course but found a bananna on my desk...hmmph, it was a bit green.
well, time to swing to work,
doggie out

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