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Cornik22
03-01-2010, 08:35 AM
I had the idea to make a thread were we can talk about all those things we know were planned for the game, but for some reason didnít make it to the final version. Not he things we wanted to be in the game, but the stuff that was developed for the game but finally dropped. Feel free to post any picture or video you have, or just share and discuss information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Iíll start the thread talking about weapons. Iíve made a little list were you can take a look at some of the weapons we never saw in the final version of AC2. Enjoy and comment!

1- One of the concept arts shows soldiers carrying crossbows. It looks like they tried to reintroduced the crossbow, but it had the same fate that in AC1 (probably because of the throwing knives and the pistol having a similar effect).

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4906/crossbow.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/crossbow.jpg/)

2- Here you can see some daggers. The first one was supposed to be used by agiles.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4036/16058323.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/16058323.jpg/)

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1396/84896227.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/84896227.jpg/)

This one looks powerful.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3964/65962780.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/i/65962780.jpg/)

This one looks similar to the first. Maybe the reference?

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3346/97927485.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/97927485.jpg/)

3- Now talking about swords they made so many models they had to take some of them out. I wonder why they decided not to include some of these with the dcl.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2373/espadasv.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/espadasv.jpg/)

The next sword is one we have seen a lot from the beginning, and has appeared in several promo screenshots, as well as the E3 demo. Here are some examples.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/346/miliciano.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/miliciano.jpg/)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/330/tipo061.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/tipo061.jpg/)

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9572/tipo063.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/tipo063.jpg/)

4- Now how about some maces and axes? They only included 4 in the game. 2 more would have not hurt.

Some of you will probably remember this mace from the Game Informer magazine. The first time I saw it I thought "Man, I'm gonna beat the crap out of the soldiers with this one!". A pity...

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8750/98625468.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/98625468.jpg/)

What happened to this axe? It looks awesome. It should have been in the game!

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2053/28923833.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/28923833.jpg/)

Again, from the E3 demo.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9626/15328750.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/15328750.jpg/)

The last time we saw the axe was in this promo.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3177/47901030.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/47901030.jpg/)

5- Finally comes this spear, another example of a weapon we have seen several times from the beginning. Considering there are only two in AC2, another one would have been a great addition.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8933/alabardero2.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/alabardero2.jpg/)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1476/tipo11.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/tipo11.jpg/)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4198/tipo12.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/tipo12.jpg/)

Which one is your favourite?

Cornik22
03-01-2010, 08:35 AM
I had the idea to make a thread were we can talk about all those things we know were planned for the game, but for some reason didnít make it to the final version. Not he things we wanted to be in the game, but the stuff that was developed for the game but finally dropped. Feel free to post any picture or video you have, or just share and discuss information http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Iíll start the thread talking about weapons. Iíve made a little list were you can take a look at some of the weapons we never saw in the final version of AC2. Enjoy and comment!

1- One of the concept arts shows soldiers carrying crossbows. It looks like they tried to reintroduced the crossbow, but it had the same fate that in AC1 (probably because of the throwing knives and the pistol having a similar effect).

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4906/crossbow.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/crossbow.jpg/)

2- Here you can see some daggers. The first one was supposed to be used by agiles.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4036/16058323.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/16058323.jpg/)

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1396/84896227.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/84896227.jpg/)

This one looks powerful.

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3964/65962780.jpg (http://img297.imageshack.us/i/65962780.jpg/)

This one looks similar to the first. Maybe the reference?

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3346/97927485.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/97927485.jpg/)

3- Now talking about swords they made so many models they had to take some of them out. I wonder why they decided not to include some of these with the dcl.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2373/espadasv.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/espadasv.jpg/)

The next sword is one we have seen a lot from the beginning, and has appeared in several promo screenshots, as well as the E3 demo. Here are some examples.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/346/miliciano.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/miliciano.jpg/)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/330/tipo061.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/tipo061.jpg/)

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9572/tipo063.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/tipo063.jpg/)

4- Now how about some maces and axes? They only included 4 in the game. 2 more would have not hurt.

Some of you will probably remember this mace from the Game Informer magazine. The first time I saw it I thought "Man, I'm gonna beat the crap out of the soldiers with this one!". A pity...

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8750/98625468.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/98625468.jpg/)

What happened to this axe? It looks awesome. It should have been in the game!

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2053/28923833.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/28923833.jpg/)

Again, from the E3 demo.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9626/15328750.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/15328750.jpg/)

The last time we saw the axe was in this promo.

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3177/47901030.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/47901030.jpg/)

5- Finally comes this spear, another example of a weapon we have seen several times from the beginning. Considering there are only two in AC2, another one would have been a great addition.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8933/alabardero2.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/alabardero2.jpg/)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1476/tipo11.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/tipo11.jpg/)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4198/tipo12.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/tipo12.jpg/)

Which one is your favourite?

caswallawn_2k7
03-01-2010, 08:40 AM
concept art like that is generally made long before any model work or coding is done, so it may of just been an artistic choice made by the person who did the concept art, believing it to look better than the long bow.

Cornik22
03-01-2010, 08:48 AM
Maybe. I didn't thought about that, but we don't know for sure. It would have been cool to get the crossbow, don't you think? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

monkeyuncle8
03-01-2010, 03:36 PM
actually a crossbow is a terrible weapon for an assassin, it takes like 2 minutes to reload, and while your reloading it you have to stand there

in medieval times they actually had to have 2 people operate a crossbow, one would fire, the other would reload

I don't think this clunky weapon would be a good idea for an assassins weapon either, if you do look in the intro for ac1 right after altiar fires it he throws it away

also yes guard would normally have one back then, since they were very good for piercing armor (crossbows can actually go farther than bullets in human skin)

the fact that you never see the weapons could be due to the fact that they are slightly modified in the game

Cornik22
03-01-2010, 05:25 PM
The axe looks great. I want my axe back! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

SWJS
03-01-2010, 08:22 PM
I like the swords in pic number 5, especially the second one.

Ubereinkunft
03-01-2010, 10:23 PM
This might not be related to the topic above...
But I think the AC team can make the combat a little more interesting by putting more combination actions in to play.
Like the counter attack for the 360 would be RT then X.
I'm suggesting, for example, to program the combat options so that when press RT then X and after that choose another button, so that you can decide what kind of counter attack to use.
Basically, it sort of be like Tekken a little bit.



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the amolang
03-01-2010, 11:45 PM
The topic's title should be Assassin's Creed 2 Cemetery of Ideas... some spelling mistakes... sorry but for some reason it bothered me. It usually doesn't bother me, but YOU are cornik, right? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cornik22
03-02-2010, 06:23 AM
I'm not sure what you mean http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif . Obviously english is not my first language, and I assumed that it was "cementery" because in my language we say "cementerio", which is very similar. Sorry for that!

adarwinter
03-02-2010, 09:06 AM
i constantly wonder while bows and arrows are not in the game. not crossbows but plane bows.
aiming down the crosshair of a bow and launch arrows sounds cool and it might fit for ezio or altair to carry on the back.