View Full Version : affordable flight sim VR - so close, so close...

03-23-2005, 02:58 AM
If you think about it, we're almost there.

Two things you need for servicable VR in flight sims (I mean, you could have more, but the price would go through the roof).

1) A set of VR goggles that wrap around a bit (for peripheral vision), and show a reasonable resolution. Currently you can get these as cheaply as $300 Australian, but I guess you'd want to pay a bit more to ensure you aren't going to lose on fidelity.

2) An enhanced TrackIR - TrackIR is a great concept, but the next step I think is to track movements at a ratio of 1:1 - if you're wearing goggles, looking away from the screen is no problem. As I understand it, TrackIR bounces/triangulates to a single sensor worn on the forehead. To be able to track extreme head movements (looking back over the shoulder, for example), I guess you'd need to wear a 'coronet' of five or six sensors, each on a unique frequency that corresponds to position on the crown of the head, so that the Tracking unit could accurately triangulate the position of your head. I don't think it'd be too difficult to get right, were the money and time to be put into it.

Add a nice set of headphones and a force feedback stick and you could really believe you're in the cockpit of your plane. Imagine having to crane your neck over your shoulder to get a fix on that nasty bogey, and when you look up you see blue sky, not the cracks in your ceiling. When you look down, you see your cockpit dials, not your cigarette stained desk http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

What do you folk think? I'd love to have a setup like this...I realise the technology isn't quite there, but with TrackIR it's teetering on the brink.

What would you add/subtract for an armchair VR setup? Bear in mind it has to be within the budget of your average joe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


03-23-2005, 03:11 AM
Well, an anticipated price of $899 is quite steep, but hopefully it will drop over the next years.http://http://www.emagin.com/3dvisor/

Well, one can always dream http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

03-23-2005, 03:12 AM
Oops, of course the link is http://www.emagin.com/3dvisor/

03-23-2005, 04:20 AM
That's more or less exactly the sort of thing I'd be looking for.

That is, if the company stays in business long enough for the price to go down...

The problem with extremely high priced products for a niche market (that can get away without them, even if it does add a level of immersion) is low volume of sales. So even if they make enough to stay in business, they don't have any competition to encourage them to bring the price down.

Hmmm, it looks **** good though. Maybe in a few months time when I've finished saving up for my BoB machine, I'll start saving for this...


03-23-2005, 05:29 AM
This is one of their first consumer products. Their main business is OLED displays and they also produce for more "serious" applications like the military or for infrared devices mounted on firefighter helmets.

Hopefully that business will keep them alive long enough for their consumer products to mature.

03-23-2005, 06:10 AM
actually yeah, that seems **** reasonable.

get a headset that can allow you to focus at close range, and voila! you have full spectrum FOV. As you said, TrackIR style panning takes care of head movement.

dip forward to read that instrument panel... or crouch over the gunsight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

now that, would be sexeh...