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Metabaron2005
05-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Seen from close :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/Nuageslointains.jpg

... and seen from a distance :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/Nuagesloigns.jpg

The first picture shows a great similarity but the second one looks totaly unrealistic.

The problem is that in the game you see the couds mor often from a distance than from close ...

Metabaron2005
05-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Seen from close :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/Nuageslointains.jpg

... and seen from a distance :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/Nuagesloigns.jpg

The first picture shows a great similarity but the second one looks totaly unrealistic.

The problem is that in the game you see the couds mor often from a distance than from close ...

Platypus_1.JaVA
05-28-2006, 02:32 PM
Are those (real) pictures taken from the air? The way the light falls on the clouds make all the diffrence you know. Wether you are above, below or at the same level of the clouds makes a big diffrence.

When the clouds are low, the sun is on the other side of the clouds so they appear very dark in color. With white clouds, the rays of the sun can reflect from the bottom of them and make them appear in a diffrent color and texture. But there is in fact little or no diffrence.

Old_Canuck
05-28-2006, 02:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Platypus_1.JaVA:
Are those (real) pictures taken from the air? The way the light falls on the clouds make all the diffrence you know. Wether you are above, below or at the same level of the clouds makes a big diffrence.

When the clouds are low, the sun is on the other side of the clouds so they appear very dark in color. With white clouds, the rays of the sun can reflect from the bottom of them and make them appear in a diffrent color and texture. But there is in fact little or no diffrence. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow .. God's clouds look so realistic. Almost like Oleg's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

zjulik
05-28-2006, 02:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
Wow .. God's clouds look so realistic. Almost like Oleg's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I`d love to see the specs of his PC.
Think he should do a virus scan by the way. Too much nasties around.

Chivas
05-28-2006, 02:51 PM
Your drawing way to many conclusions from one cloud screenshot. Give it a rest until you get more info to base your decision on.

danjama
05-28-2006, 02:52 PM
God told me he gets stutters with Beta BoB.

Old_Canuck
05-28-2006, 02:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zjulik:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
Wow .. God's clouds look so realistic. Almost like Oleg's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I`d love to see the specs of his PC.
Think he should do a virus scan by the way. Too much nasties around. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif I hear ya. Hope he doesn't run out of patience and simply trash the whole computer.

FritzGryphon
05-28-2006, 03:53 PM
I'm offended by the suggestion that God made those clouds.

Like eveything else, Raven made the clouds. They form from the contrails off his wings!

james_ander
05-28-2006, 08:06 PM
God's clouds are way overmodeled.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-28-2006, 08:31 PM
I bet he can see through them.

jermin122
05-28-2006, 10:02 PM
God'sclouds look more realistic IMHO.

slo_1_2_3
05-28-2006, 10:15 PM
you should see my clouds I make after eating chili http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Stackhouse25th
05-28-2006, 10:43 PM
I vote this thread....THREAD OF THE YEAR !! WOO WOO BABY!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">BoB's clouds vs God's coulds </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

AKA_TAGERT
05-28-2006, 10:54 PM
Im confused.. I thought Oleg was GOD?

triggerhappyfin
05-29-2006, 12:00 AM
Oooh, God got TypeClouds=1 too? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

tagTaken2
05-29-2006, 01:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
I`d love to see the specs of his PC.
Think he should do a virus scan by the way. Too much nasties around.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif I hear ya. Hope he doesn't run out of patience and simply trash the whole computer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Or another format c:\ /r[:rain] /q

bjparker
05-29-2006, 02:50 AM
Seriously, Metabaron has a real point to make....

for BoB to be truely atmospheric, we need clouds like they really are in SE England:
1.the BoB cirrus clouds are uniformly white, often they have a markedly different colour to lower levels
2.let's see some altostratus! never seen them in FB of BoB (limited) pics. They're often very black from below compared to higher clouds

Both these types of cloud are often associated with nearby active fronts, of which we see a lot in the UK. Battles over Kent won't be the same without them!

BJP

DuxCorvan
05-29-2006, 02:51 AM
He should introduce Punk Buster. Too much cheatin' and TK around here.

heywooood
05-29-2006, 09:21 AM
Heresy Detected

Gods Antivirus will close the application 'Earth' now


Do you wish to restart?.... _

LEBillfish
05-29-2006, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
Heresy Detected

Gods Antivirus will close the application 'Earth' now


Do you wish to restart?.... _ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
05-29-2006, 12:28 PM
I'm glad to see Metabaron is a religious person. He says "God's" clouds and not "Nature's" clouds. However, he is far too quick with jumping to conclusions. BTW, what combat sim has better clouds?

zjulik
05-29-2006, 04:13 PM
The internet never ceases to surprise. Here is a site right up our alley:
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/

Now, this would in itself justify a post in this thread. But! Somewhere on the pages of this site, someone managed to photograph a cloud resembling a legendary reggae artist.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you "The Bob cloud": http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/3content/gallery/assets_gallery/2/michael_poole!/mag2.jpg

WTE_Galway
05-29-2006, 06:47 PM
One of the things you notice flying real time in light aircraft is the incredible difference in clouds not just from day to day but even over a short period in the same day or even looking in different directions.

What is mainly missing in PF/FB from a distance is the complex combinations of different layers at once.

Somehow I don't think modelling dynamic cloud variations (including little English summer squalls which would be amazing) will be a big priority in BoB though.

justflyin
05-30-2006, 02:22 PM
I'll add my "glass half-full" version. I think Oleg's group did a pretty damned good job of making their clouds look closely like their real life counterparts.

My only issue is the way they get drawn at distances, as they just start popping up all over the sky as you close in on something. Big FPS hit. I usually run old clouds.

Akronnick
05-30-2006, 10:15 PM
I've seen all kinds of different clouds in real life, even green ones (that one was scary!)
The diversity and complexity of real clouds is such that NO computer system EVER will be able to simulate them perfectly.

God told me he thinks the Mustang is definately undermodeled.

jermin122
05-31-2006, 07:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by zjulik:
The internet never ceases to surprise. Here is a site right up our alley:
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/

Now, this would in itself justify a post in this thread. But! Somewhere on the pages of this site, someone managed to photograph a cloud resembling a legendary reggae artist.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you "The Bob cloud": http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/3content/gallery/assets_gallery/2/michael_poole!/mag2.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your pic is more like the God's cloud. The clouds in BoB is too inflated, just like cottons. And they don't have dark sides and bright sides. all snow white. Here's another pic.

http://auto.sina.com.cn/photo/meiguo/3_33-148-2100-284_20020514174040.jpg

Chivas
05-31-2006, 10:52 PM
"Your pic is more like the God's cloud. The clouds in BoB is too inflated, just like cottons. And they don't have dark sides and bright sides. all snow white. Here's another pic."


You have no idea on how the clouds in BOB will look. You draw way to many conclusions from one partial cloud screenshot.

Chivas
05-31-2006, 11:07 PM
I apologies....the sky is not the only thing thats falling.

On closer examination of those four screenshots... that portion of a cloud may be spot on but what about all the other types that aren't and probably won't be there.

Not only that but there seems to be only two cockpits...one a spit and the other a 109. What about the rest of the aircraft. They do need wings you know. Don't get me started on the spit cockpit thats in black and white on one part and in color on the other.

I know for a fact that the Channel is alot bigger than the one in the screenshot.

I'm not looking forward to this sim at all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

LEXX_Luthor
05-31-2006, 11:31 PM
Mee Too. I only run Old Clouds, I dumped the New Clouds.

WTE:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What is mainly missing in PF/FB from a distance is the complex combinations of different layers at once. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Like this...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/Lexx_Luthor/1898b7d8.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/Lexx_Luthor/d5d3b6f7.jpg

2005:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The problem is that in the game you see the couds more often from a distance than from close ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good point. And when viewed from far away, cumulus clouds appear to have rather hard edges. This attraction for fuzzy cloud edges may be preventing Devs from making much larger cumulus clouds. I dunno.

justiceboy
05-31-2006, 11:51 PM
iv'e said this once and i'll say it agian
if you grew up with atari and nintendo, then you should agree with me when i say all the new game graphics rule. Clouds, ground from distance, ground up close, everything about what technology has brought us gamers is awesome and it will only get better.

Thank you to all the game programmers and modelers, you are doing one heck of a job.

Old_Canuck
06-01-2006, 12:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justiceboy:
iv'e said this once and i'll say it agian
if you grew up with atari and nintendo, then you should agree with me when i say all the new game graphics rule. Clouds, ground from distance, ground up close, everything about what technology has brought us gamers is awesome and it will only get better.

Thank you to all the game programmers and modelers, you are doing one heck of a job. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So true: Asteriods .. Space Invaders kept the wife and me glued to the screen for hours. Here you go - give it try.

Space Invaders (http://www.80smusiclyrics.com/games/spaceinvaders/spaceinvaders.swf)

Capt.LoneRanger
06-01-2006, 05:38 AM
Makes you wonder what hardware-requirements are needed to run earth... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

zjulik
06-01-2006, 05:54 PM
Ahem...cough cough...by "The Bob cloud" I was not, i repeat not, referring to an upcoming flight sim.
Now, look at the pic again.
And again.
Please people... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

-HH-Quazi
06-01-2006, 09:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justiceboy:
iv'e said this once and i'll say it agian
if you grew up with atari and nintendo, then you should agree with me when i say all the new game graphics rule. Clouds, ground from distance, ground up close, everything about what technology has brought us gamers is awesome and it will only get better.

Thank you to all the game programmers and modelers, you are doing one heck of a job. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, Atari Tennis. I used to sit for hours on end watching that little dot of light bounce from one side of the TV screnn to the other.

justflyin
06-02-2006, 11:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Old_Canuck:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by justiceboy:
iv'e said this once and i'll say it agian
if you grew up with atari and nintendo, then you should agree with me when i say all the new game graphics rule. Clouds, ground from distance, ground up close, everything about what technology has brought us gamers is awesome and it will only get better.

Thank you to all the game programmers and modelers, you are doing one heck of a job. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So true: Asteriods .. Space Invaders kept the wife and me glued to the screen for hours. Here you go - give it try.

Space Invaders (http://www.80smusiclyrics.com/games/spaceinvaders/spaceinvaders.swf) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, Space Invaders. Pretty much the first "arcade" game to hit the pinball arcades. Followed quickly by Asteroids.

There was a design flaw in the Space Invaders cabinet however, and you could slide the front glass up and pull it out from the bottom, reach your hand down inside the coin box and get handfuls of quarters, as well as "tick" off free games by hitting the mechanism that registered coins as they went down the slot.

Yes, I was a juvenile delinquent. Fell in with a bad crowd in my teens, but quickly realized that being a career criminal would have it's downside.

I'm far too pretty to go to prison and I didn't want to end up saying to Bubba, "Couldn't you just hold me tonight?!?!" Or worse, being "loaned out" for a carton of cigs.

Snootles
06-02-2006, 06:27 PM
So apparently Battle of Britain has a competitor in the high-fidelity WWII sim arena called... Gattle of Dritain??!?

Scharnhorst1943
06-02-2006, 09:44 PM
No No No. Oleg is not God, he is Jesus' half-brother. That would make him God's step-son-in-law. And BTW, The Davinci Code failed to mention they were hiding that too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif