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Grandmaster_Z
06-05-2009, 06:52 AM
"Ezio, have you forgotten the meaning of SUBTLETY!"

I liked how altair looked at the beginning of AC1 when he lost all of his weapons and stuff. blended in more with just the hidden blade and thats it. I wish you could choose if you wanted to have the long sword or not. personally i think it looks wierd running around and climbing and doing flips/rolls with a long sword on your side..i would like to just play with a dagger and the hidden blade..

as for ezio, yea Malik would likely dissapprove of his Libarace outfit..

Grandmaster_Z
06-05-2009, 06:52 AM
"Ezio, have you forgotten the meaning of SUBTLETY!"

I liked how altair looked at the beginning of AC1 when he lost all of his weapons and stuff. blended in more with just the hidden blade and thats it. I wish you could choose if you wanted to have the long sword or not. personally i think it looks wierd running around and climbing and doing flips/rolls with a long sword on your side..i would like to just play with a dagger and the hidden blade..

as for ezio, yea Malik would likely dissapprove of his Libarace outfit..

moqqy
06-05-2009, 06:59 AM
Didn't you see the demo? Ezio had no visible weapons. He might just be a noble with his outfit, albeit a fairly weirdly dressed noble, but still he blends in A LOT better than Altair did.

altairego
06-05-2009, 07:26 AM
He's a noble. he does not have to blend in.

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 07:44 AM
What about the fancy belt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
That's pretty 'HEY! COME AND GET ME!!' IF there are any TEMPLARS around.....(evil music.)

Grandmaster_Z
06-05-2009, 07:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
Didn't you see the demo? Ezio had no visible weapons. He might just be a noble with his outfit, albeit a fairly weirdly dressed noble, but still he blends in A LOT better than Altair did. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

looks like there is a long blade on the left side of his waist..

obliviondoll
06-05-2009, 08:03 AM
I don't see any weapons on him in the videos I've watched....

But even so, a nobleman with a sword can hardly be described as unusual. A nobleman stabbing a guy because of his belt, on the other hand.... SLIGHTLY conspicuous.

altairego
06-05-2009, 08:10 AM
you mean "TRY and get me!" *evil laugh*

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stormpen:
What about the fancy belt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
That's pretty 'HEY! COME AND GET ME!!' IF there are any TEMPLARS around.....(evil music.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 08:17 AM
(SMILE) Very true...... *another evil laugh*

altairego
06-05-2009, 08:22 AM
if what i saw that guy do in the trailer is only the tip of the iceberg, then the outfit goes right along with the man

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 08:24 AM
What's that supposed to mean? He's a disturbed killer with money to burn?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

altairego
06-05-2009, 08:27 AM
money is what Italian nobility was all about. They were up to their ears in it.
as for him being disturbed: imagine someone killing YOUR family

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stormpen:
What's that supposed to mean? He's a disturbed killer with money to burn?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 08:30 AM
Oh yeah.....

However, (backpedal) I guess I'd be kinda violent If someone killed MY brother and Father.

(and threatened to rape my mom. I'm GLAD Ezio killed that guy.)evil LOL

moqqy
06-05-2009, 08:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grandmaster_Z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
Didn't you see the demo? Ezio had no visible weapons. He might just be a noble with his outfit, albeit a fairly weirdly dressed noble, but still he blends in A LOT better than Altair did. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

looks like there is a long blade on the left side of his waist.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, he had no other weapons than his hidden blades in the video.

altairego
06-05-2009, 08:37 AM
so he is not flashy in the least. i find his outfit rather modest considering the Borgia guy's clothes at the party.

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">at the </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">so he is not flashy in the least. i find his outfit rather modest considering the Borgia guy's clothes at the party. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's probably cause u need more cloth and finery to cover the Fat Guy up.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

altairego
06-05-2009, 09:29 AM
or maybe because Ezio does not care about his digs anymore, now that revenge is here to stay.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stormpen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">at the </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">so he is not flashy in the least. i find his outfit rather modest considering the Borgia guy's clothes at the party. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's probably cause u need more cloth and finery to cover the Fat Guy up.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">or maybe because Ezio does not care about his digs anymore, now that revenge is here to stay. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A most intelligent reply.....

Quite slapstick too.

Uh, am I sounding like a Idiot? please tell, even tho it's NOT RELEVANT TO AC http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif (PLEASE DON'T KICK MY ..... uh, face?)

UchihaKarasu
06-05-2009, 09:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stormpen:
What about the fancy belt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
That's pretty 'HEY! COME AND GET ME!!' IF there are any TEMPLARS around.....(evil music.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Eh...not necessarily....Templars might reconize it but I doubt it would make a difference. If they've already killed his father, brother (?), chances are they are well aware Ezio is an Assassin.
Besides, wearing something like that would have been unusual, Noble usually displayed their family crest whenever possible.

MeAltairLol
06-05-2009, 10:07 AM
UchihaKarasu: I know what you mean, but I'm pretty sure the Templars would recognize the Assassin's Creed crest.

UchihaKarasu
06-05-2009, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MeAltairLol:
UchihaKarasu: I know what you mean, but I'm pretty sure the Templars would recognize the Assassin's Creed crest. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, which is why I mentioned that even without the symbol, Templars seem to already know who and what Ezio is.

Alex_HS
06-05-2009, 11:08 AM
I prefer Altaír's style, Enzio.. i really cant imagine anyone overdressed like that climbing, jumping and running like a pro.

I think they overdid Enzio.

Kaxen6
06-05-2009, 12:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stormpen:
What about the fancy belt? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
That's pretty 'HEY! COME AND GET ME!!' IF there are any TEMPLARS around.....(evil music.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Considering how Ezio ended up stabbing someone who noticed him while sitting on the bench in the demo, I think he's aware he is recognizable. xD

mboltevski
06-05-2009, 01:35 PM
Max gives his official seal of approvement for Ezio's outfit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UchihaKarasu
06-05-2009, 01:48 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I love Ezio's outfit.
Why else would I be in the process of making an authentic cosplay of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Grandmaster_Z
06-05-2009, 02:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grandmaster_Z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
Didn't you see the demo? Ezio had no visible weapons. He might just be a noble with his outfit, albeit a fairly weirdly dressed noble, but still he blends in A LOT better than Altair did. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

looks like there is a long blade on the left side of his waist.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, he had no other weapons than his hidden blades in the video. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok watch this video and tell me that:
http://www.gametrailers.com/vi...creed/50812?type=mov (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-assassins-creed/50812?type=mov)

moqqy
06-05-2009, 02:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grandmaster_Z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grandmaster_Z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
Didn't you see the demo? Ezio had no visible weapons. He might just be a noble with his outfit, albeit a fairly weirdly dressed noble, but still he blends in A LOT better than Altair did. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

looks like there is a long blade on the left side of his waist.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, he had no other weapons than his hidden blades in the video. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok watch this video and tell me that:
http://www.gametrailers.com/vi...creed/50812?type=mov (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-assassins-creed/50812?type=mov) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I.. wasn't talking about that video..

Err, okay, I was. I didn't notice the sword, and I didn't even look for one especially since Ezio didn't draw it but rather used bare hands against the guards..

But still, a noble having a sword is nothing unusual.

caswallawn_2k7
06-05-2009, 02:27 PM
they have stated the majority of combat is going to be the 2 hidden blades and hand to hand combat, as it stops him from looking like a walking armoury.

he can take weapons from guards and used them but as showen the use of them is very limited, so dont expect to be running round the city with a pole arm or sword.

Grandmaster_Z
06-05-2009, 02:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
they have stated the majority of combat is going to be the 2 hidden blades and hand to hand combat, as it stops him from looking like a walking armoury. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

cool, that was a key thing that i did not like about the first. i love how in ac2 you can take the guards weapons and kill them with it but you don't keep them.

moqqy
06-05-2009, 03:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
they have stated the majority of combat is going to be the 2 hidden blades and hand to hand combat, as it stops him from looking like a walking armoury.

he can take weapons from guards and used them but as showen the use of them is very limited, so dont expect to be running round the city with a pole arm or sword. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How has it been shown that the use is very limited? It was only "limited" in the demo because he chose to drop the weapons after use.

caswallawn_2k7
06-05-2009, 04:04 PM
the pike he only got one kill with it before leaving it impaled in the guard.

thebatman226
06-05-2009, 04:20 PM
I think itll work like, once Ezio makes a kill with the weapon he drops it.
Because that seemed to be case in the gameplay video.

moqqy
06-05-2009, 04:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
the pike he only got one kill with it before leaving it impaled in the guard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

On the other hand, he killed the guard he took the pike from with it and he still had it afterwards.

And it was clear that Ezio doesn't drop the weapon automatically, you can choose to do so, however.

Stormpen
06-05-2009, 08:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">cool, that was a key thing that i did not like about the first. i love how in ac2 you can take the guards weapons and kill them with it but you don't keep them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah. Also, I think it would have been LESS unusual for Altair to walk around like a loaded battleship, coz it was the Third Crusade (a time of war, and all that.)
But a nobleman walking around like tha would have been bound to turn some Templar heads.....(evil music) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

moqqy
06-06-2009, 05:20 AM
The other way around, actually. How many other people did you see with weapons in there? Only soldiers and guards.

And I'm not completely sure about the Italian renaissance era, but nobles were allowed to carry swords (and they did) in a lot of places.

Sypron
06-06-2009, 05:51 AM
Actually, Ezio carries more weapons around with him then Altair did. Lets count, shall we?
Altair:
1 Wrist Blade
1 Sword
1 Knife
15 Throwing Knives
Ezio:
2 Wrist Blades
1 Sword
1 Knife (you can see it on his back in many screenshots)
15 Throwing Knives (which you can see in this picture. (http://www.ebgames.com.au/images/products/147559_detail.jpg)

Plus, you can semi-choose when to drop your extra weapon.
It appears that some attacks (such as some with the pike) will cause Ezio to leave the weapon 'in' the person he killed, and sometimes he will hold onto it. Perhaps which attack you choose to use will affect this. Also, after killing the armored man with his own axe, Ezio was still holding the axe. It was the player who pushed a button that made Ezio drop it.

marzipanbomber
06-06-2009, 06:13 AM
Somehow they took the same approach as for Prince of Persia Warrior Within, didn't they? In PoP 2 you had one fixed sword, but you were also able to take your enemies' weapons, but you never kept them for a long time cuz they got broken quickly or you just threw them away. Now in AC2 you have the hidden blades as fixed weapon, and you can disarm enemies. The question is if you can also keep them for awhile or if you automatically throw them away when a fight is over.

moqqy
06-06-2009, 06:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
Actually, Ezio carries more weapons around with him then Altair did. Lets count, shall we?
Altair:
1 Wrist Blade
1 Sword
1 Knife
15 Throwing Knives
Ezio:
2 Wrist Blades
1 Sword
1 Knife (you can see it on his back in many screenshots)
15 Throwing Knives (which you can see in this picture. (http://www.ebgames.com.au/images/products/147559_detail.jpg)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Altair had two swords, and for Ezio the sword is optional. So he doesn't have to carry any visible weapons.

OniLinkSword
06-06-2009, 07:29 AM
I would have to say that Altair's outfit was more noticeable. He was blending in as a praying monk, but he was covered in weapons. It's just a bit more of a WTF kind of thing. Considering the time period, Eizo's outfit blends in a bit more due to the less obvious stock of weapons.

revoltingbunny
06-06-2009, 07:57 AM
Even if Ezio's outfit was as normal as can be... The guards would still notice him because of witnesses and the posters with his face on it... so the outfit doesn't matter that much.

OniLinkSword
06-06-2009, 08:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by revoltingbunny:
Even if Ezio's outfit was as normal as can be... The guards would still notice him because of witnesses and the posters with his face on it... so the outfit doesn't matter that much. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That's why he wears the hood. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sypron
06-07-2009, 01:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
Actually, Ezio carries more weapons around with him then Altair did. Lets count, shall we?
Altair:
1 Wrist Blade
1 Sword
1 Knife
15 Throwing Knives
Ezio:
2 Wrist Blades
1 Sword
1 Knife (you can see it on his back in many screenshots)
15 Throwing Knives (which you can see in this picture. (http://www.ebgames.com.au/images/products/147559_detail.jpg)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Altair had two swords, and for Ezio the sword is optional. So he doesn't have to carry any visible weapons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Altair didn't have 2 swords. He had 1 Sword and 1 knife, both of which I counted. Ezio has the same weapons. I don't think Ezio's sword is optional, I think thats just for any extra weapons he grabs off his enemies.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by OniLinkSword:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by revoltingbunny:
Even if Ezio's outfit was as normal as can be... The guards would still notice him because of witnesses and the posters with his face on it... so the outfit doesn't matter that much. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That's why he wears the hood. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well the hood is going to be on the posters too, isn't it?

moqqy
06-07-2009, 02:50 AM
You're calling the short sword a knife? Uh, quite big knives you have. And his sword is optional, so he doesn't have to have any visible weapons.

Sypron
06-07-2009, 05:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
You're calling the short sword a knife? Uh, quite big knives you have. And his sword is optional, so he doesn't have to have any visible weapons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I call it a knife because thats what I recall it being called in the game, regardless of what catergory of weapon it actually falls into.

If his sword is optional (which I don't believe is the case) then Ezio still has his 'short sword', unless thats optional too.

EDIT: I just checked it out, the game calls it a 'short blade'.

obliviondoll
06-07-2009, 06:11 AM
It's really big for a knife, but too small to really deserve the name "shortsword." It's more of a dagger, and he holds it reverse-grip, which was almost exclusively used for daggers and knives, and VERY rarely with swords.

moqqy
06-07-2009, 07:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
You're calling the short sword a knife? Uh, quite big knives you have. And his sword is optional, so he doesn't have to have any visible weapons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I call it a knife because thats what I recall it being called in the game, regardless of what catergory of weapon it actually falls into.

If his sword is optional (which I don't believe is the case) then Ezio still has his 'short sword', unless thats optional too.

EDIT: I just checked it out, the game calls it a 'short blade'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ezio's sword IS optional. Believe what you want. He only has to carry the hidden blades.. and what "short sword" of Ezio's are you talking about?

FifthGeneration
06-07-2009, 07:50 AM
yeah im pretty sure this "short sword" is called a knife in reality

hambo17
06-07-2009, 07:52 AM
They should have looked at Altair again before making Ezio. Cos nearly every picture you look at of Altair, he's throttling a templar or looking as ruthless/ fearful as he can. You look at Ezio, he looks like hes going to a dance and welcoming you with open arms http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif . Ezio just isn't ruthless looking enough as Altair. They should have kept Altair!!!


http://www.assassins-creed.de/images/artikel/charaktere/altair.jpg

http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/275060-George2/60/35/ezio_display.jpg

moqqy
06-07-2009, 08:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FifthGeneration:
yeah im pretty sure this "short sword" is called a knife in reality </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uh, no it definitely isn't called a knife. Here's a knife.

http://www.knifehaggler.com/su...rcoSurvivalKnife.jpg (http://www.knifehaggler.com/survivalcheap/MeyercoSurvivalKnife.jpg)

Sypron
06-07-2009, 10:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
Ezio's sword IS optional. Believe what you want. He only has to carry the hidden blades.. and what "short sword" of Ezio's are you talking about? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This one
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/Sypron/EziosShortBlade.jpg
I don't want to believe in speculation, I want to believe the truth. If you could show me where it says that Ezio can drop his main sword then that would be great, because I don't recall it being said. And you're forgetting the 15 throwing knives that Ezio gets. Are those optional too?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
Uh, no it definitely isn't called a knife. Here's a knife.

http://www.knifehaggler.com/su...rcoSurvivalKnife.jpg (http://www.knifehaggler.com/survivalcheap/MeyercoSurvivalKnife.jpg)
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thats not a knife. Thats a spoon.

moqqy
06-07-2009, 10:35 AM
It's very, very likely that those throwing knives are optional. More than likely. It's the only thing that makes sense.

As they have introduced an economy system to the game, you have to buy that stuff yourself. There will be no more throwing knives if you use them all and don't buy more.

And that short sword.. are you sure it's there in the first picture? If so, it's fairly well hidden.

Sypron
06-07-2009, 10:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
It's very, very likely that those throwing knives are optional. More than likely. It's the only thing that makes sense.

As they have introduced an economy system to the game, you have to buy that stuff yourself. There will be no more throwing knives if you use them all and don't buy more.

And that short sword.. are you sure it's there in the first picture? If so, it's fairly well hidden. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not making this up, look, here it is again:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/Sypron/EziosShortBlade2.jpg
I know it'd be great if we have the option to play the game with fewer weapons showing, I'd like to have that too. But there is no reason for the devs to make the game like that unless there is a reason besides asthetics. I think that when Patrice said you can drop your weapon he was referring to the weapons that you can take off your enemies. I don't see any reason (besides asthetics) for why the player should be able to remove his primary combat weapons.

obliviondoll
06-07-2009, 10:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
I don't see any reason (besides asthetics) for why the player should be able to remove his primary combat weapons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you don't think it would be reasonable to have the character able to move faster and swim better when he's carrying less? You don't think it would be sensible to reduce pakour or limit swimming distance for Ezio based on his equipment? I think it's a good idea, personally.

Losk_
06-07-2009, 11:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by obliviondoll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
I don't see any reason (besides aesthetics) for why the player should be able to remove his primary combat weapons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you don't think it would be reasonable to have the character able to move faster and swim better when he's carrying less? You don't think it would be sensible to reduce pakour or limit swimming distance for Ezio based on his equipment? I think it's a good idea, personally. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. I would also add how quietly he can walk and the likelihood that a guard will come over to investigate him when he is, say, parked on a bench. If I was a guard and I saw a dude loaded up with weaponry I might take a closer look.

On a side note I don't think it has been clearly stated if you can optionally remove weapons. However if you watch all the E3 videos they do hint at this kind of thing being possible. It has been said that you can buy weapons. It is not clear if those are just "refills" on throwing knives and smoke bombs, or if it includes many others. The other relevant bit of information that I recall is that they don't want Ezio to be reliant on his longsword like in AC1. I am fairly certain that when talking about weapons, Patrice said that Ezio does not need them, because everyone else has them and he can take them. Something to that effect.

I just thought of another supporting argument for this: we know that there is an econmic system in the game. You can steal money, and loot items to sell at a shop. Therefore I think it is safe to assume that you're going to have some kind of inventory system implemented as well to keep track of the items you've stolen. It is not much of a stretch to extend that inventory system to include equipping/unequipping different weapons.

Sypron
06-08-2009, 12:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by obliviondoll:
So you don't think it would be reasonable to have the character able to move faster and swim better when he's carrying less? You don't think it would be sensible to reduce pakour or limit swimming distance for Ezio based on his equipment? I think it's a good idea, personally. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think its a good idea also, I just qeustion whether that concept will actually be implemented. That kind of choice (weapons vs. agility) is something I would love to see in AC2.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Losk_:
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[QUOTE]

I hope you're right.

SWJS
06-08-2009, 01:16 AM
To settle the arguement, Altair's sword is a longsword or broadsword, the types of swords we typically think of as a sword. Both the short blade and the weapon on Ezio's back are confirmed as daggers. "A double-edged blade used for close combat." Since the setting is Italy, Ezio may have Basket-mounted Swords in his home. He's also shown to have a Walloon Sword in the picture of the Black Edition figurine.

Ezio's clothes are not at all unusual. In reality a noble would normally wear such trappings. Nobles were also not only edjucated by teachers, but by their fathers as well. Noble fathers often tought their sons how to fist fight. Also, having that much cloth on would actually help Ezio float. Clothing displaces a lot of water over the surface enabling it to float. A human wearing a lot of clothes would actually float better. Nobles were strong too. Many nobles learned how to do things such as chop and carry firewood. Climbing a building with intricate clothes and a few weapons would have been an acomplishable task.

As for Ezio not carrying all his weapons at once, I distinctly remember some information stating that Ezio would only carry the hidden blades. However, in the recent videos he IS show to have what looks like an Italian rapier. So it is possible they changed it as the information I read was released and about the time ACII was announced.

So we will just have to wait and see.

obliviondoll
06-08-2009, 02:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
Also, having that much cloth on would actually help Ezio float. Clothing displaces a lot of water over the surface enabling it to float. A human wearing a lot of clothes would actually float better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You've never tried swimming with loose, layered clothing on, have you?

SWJS
06-08-2009, 02:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by obliviondoll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
Also, having that much cloth on would actually help Ezio float. Clothing displaces a lot of water over the surface enabling it to float. A human wearing a lot of clothes would actually float better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You've never tried swimming with loose, layered clothing on, have you? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No. I can't swim. Nor would I want to try for the risk of drowning. I do know for a fact that was woman was saved from drowning due to her large dress. It kept her afloat.

I also don't see why everyone makes it such a big deal since they begged and begged to be able to swim. I wanted to swim in ACII, I got what I asked for. I couldn't care less if Ezio wore a suit of armor while swimming, just so long as he CAN swim.

OniLinkSword
06-08-2009, 02:42 AM
Clothing works both ways. Watered cloths add weight to clothing making it hard to swim. However, you can use the same cloth to capture air in it and use it as a floater. There, argument finished.

KZarr
06-08-2009, 02:54 AM
Ezio looks very good actually. expect for the cape. Why o why ubi did you give him a cape?

Princess_Fara
06-08-2009, 03:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KZarr:
Ezio looks very good actually. expect for the cape. Why o why ubi did you give him a cape? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I like the cape, Only I hope it moves well when you fight, run, or turn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

moqqy
06-08-2009, 05:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by moqqy:
It's very, very likely that those throwing knives are optional. More than likely. It's the only thing that makes sense.

As they have introduced an economy system to the game, you have to buy that stuff yourself. There will be no more throwing knives if you use them all and don't buy more.

And that short sword.. are you sure it's there in the first picture? If so, it's fairly well hidden. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't see any reason (besides asthetics) for why the player should be able to remove his primary combat weapons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It makes no sense for the "drop weapon" key not to work with your primary ones. "Damn it! Magnetic weapon! DROP! DROP! DROP GOD DAMN IT!"

KZarr
06-08-2009, 06:04 AM
Why would you want to drop your primary weapons?

DearDirty
06-08-2009, 06:12 AM
Who knows? Maybe you can get the option to do it and take on a life of pacifism. Buy a house and raise a family. Get a job down at the local grocers. Super fun Assassin game.

Sypron
06-08-2009, 06:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
To settle the arguement, Altair's sword is a longsword or broadsword, the types of swords we typically think of as a sword. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We can go about describing these weapons by their realistict names, or their in-game names.

The in-game names for the 3 weapons are Sword, Short Blade and Hidden Blade. None of them are ever called daggers (ref: game manual and ANIMUS machine).

If you want to get realistic, then I suggest you read these.
Longsword: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword)
"The longsword is commonly held in combat with both hands"
Altair's sword is single-handed.
"blades often over 90 cm"
I measure Altair's sword at &lt; 85 cm.

Arming Sword: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_sword)
"the empty (normally left) hand could be used for grabbing or grappling opponents"
"the arming sword was the standard military sword of the knight until technological changes led to the rise of the longsword in the late 13th century"
The Arming Sword is considered a 'Short Sword', and I believe this is the category Altair's sword falls under.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
Both the short blade and the weapon on Ezio's back are confirmed as daggers. "A double-edged blade used for close combat." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The weapon on Ezio's back IS his 'short blade', and is single-edged.


I don't like getting all wiki-technical about these things, but if you want to classify the weapons by their proper names then I think its fitting to catergorise them properly.


Just found this:
"Daggers may be differentiated from knives on the basis that daggers are intended primarily for stabbing whereas knives are usually single-edged and intended mostly for cutting"

This supports my usage of the term 'knife' to describe Altair's weapon.

moqqy
06-08-2009, 06:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KZarr:
Why would you want to drop your primary weapons? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To blend in? Because you don't need it? Et cetera.

SWJS
06-08-2009, 12:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Princess_Fara:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KZarr:
Ezio looks very good actually. expect for the cape. Why o why ubi did you give him a cape? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I like the cape, Only I hope it moves well when you fight, run, or turn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I also like the cape, but I don't think it is a "cape". It looks more like a fancy scarf.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
To settle the arguement, Altair's sword is a longsword or broadsword, the types of swords we typically think of as a sword. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We can go about describing these weapons by their realistict names, or their in-game names.

The in-game names for the 3 weapons are Sword, Short Blade and Hidden Blade. None of them are ever called daggers (ref: game manual and ANIMUS machine).

If you want to get realistic, then I suggest you read these.
Longsword: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword)
"The longsword is commonly held in combat with both hands"
Altair's sword is single-handed.
"blades often over 90 cm"
I measure Altair's sword at &lt; 85 cm.

Arming Sword: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_sword)
"the empty (normally left) hand could be used for grabbing or grappling opponents"
"the arming sword was the standard military sword of the knight until technological changes led to the rise of the longsword in the late 13th century"
The Arming Sword is considered a 'Short Sword', and I believe this is the category Altair's sword falls under.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
Both the short blade and the weapon on Ezio's back are confirmed as daggers. "A double-edged blade used for close combat." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The weapon on Ezio's back IS his 'short blade', and is single-edged.


I don't like getting all wiki-technical about these things, but if you want to classify the weapons by their proper names then I think its fitting to catergorise them properly.


Just found this:
"Daggers may be differentiated from knives on the basis that daggers are intended primarily for stabbing whereas knives are usually single-edged and intended mostly for cutting"

This supports my usage of the term 'knife' to describe Altair's weapon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I wasn't intending on going into details. I wanted to prove a point and solve an argument. NOT to make myself look smarter? Is every user on this forum so bloody obssessive-compulsive about every little detail? It's a bloody game, a SCIENCE FICTION game, not a bloody history book. If you see something that doesn't look real, GO WITH IT. After all, Ezio's memories are being relayed through a brand new machine that was just finished. It may render things oddly. Oi, everyone on this forum has to have something to nit-pick at. It's just a game. Over 400 people are working on this game at the moment, trying to please you people. They fix all the issues with the first game and now you're all annoyed by accents and clothing? It's still Assassin's Creed, and it's still an awesome game. Chill out and wait for more footage and such. That was just an E3 Demo, that mission wont even be in the game. We can't make judgements on the game YET. But being the AC fan that I am, I will enjoy it, even with small insignificant details.

SWJS
06-08-2009, 02:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by c-swain:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Princess_Fara:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KZarr:
Ezio looks very good actually. expect for the cape. Why o why ubi did you give him a cape? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I like the cape, Only I hope it moves well when you fight, run, or turn. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I also like the cape, but I don't think it is a "cape". It looks more like a fancy scarf.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sypron:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
To settle the arguement, Altair's sword is a longsword or broadsword, the types of swords we typically think of as a sword. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We can go about describing these weapons by their realistict names, or their in-game names.

The in-game names for the 3 weapons are Sword, Short Blade and Hidden Blade. None of them are ever called daggers (ref: game manual and ANIMUS machine).

If you want to get realistic, then I suggest you read these.
Longsword: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword)
"The longsword is commonly held in combat with both hands"
Altair's sword is single-handed.
"blades often over 90 cm"
I measure Altair's sword at &lt; 85 cm.

Arming Sword: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_sword)
"the empty (normally left) hand could be used for grabbing or grappling opponents"
"the arming sword was the standard military sword of the knight until technological changes led to the rise of the longsword in the late 13th century"
The Arming Sword is considered a 'Short Sword', and I believe this is the category Altair's sword falls under.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EzioTheAssassin:
Both the short blade and the weapon on Ezio's back are confirmed as daggers. "A double-edged blade used for close combat." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The weapon on Ezio's back IS his 'short blade', and is single-edged.


I don't like getting all wiki-technical about these things, but if you want to classify the weapons by their proper names then I think its fitting to catergorise them properly.


Just found this:
"Daggers may be differentiated from knives on the basis that daggers are intended primarily for stabbing whereas knives are usually single-edged and intended mostly for cutting"

This supports my usage of the term 'knife' to describe Altair's weapon. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I wasn't intending on going into details. I wanted to prove a point and solve an argument. NOT to make myself look smarter? Is every user on this forum so bloody obssessive-compulsive about every little detail? It's a bloody game, a SCIENCE FICTION game, not a bloody history book. If you see something that doesn't look real, GO WITH IT. After all, Ezio's memories are being relayed through a brand new machine that was just finished. It may render things oddly. Oi, everyone on this forum has to have something to nit-pick at. It's just a game. Over 400 people are working on this game at the moment, trying to please you people. They fix all the issues with the first game and now you're all annoyed by accents and clothing? It's still Assassin's Creed, and it's still an awesome game. Chill out and wait for more footage and such. That was just an E3 Demo, that mission wont even be in the game. We can't make judgements on the game YET. But being the AC fan that I am, I will enjoy it, even with small insignificant details. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO !!

yeh. i think its mainly for covering the short blade on his back and so that he can hide his arm while he is walking up to a target with his left hidden blade deployed.

my brother pointed out that in the demo, the cape is folded over itself slightly. And yet the folds move like it is sewn into the cape. slightly upsetting but not the end of the world ! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif That I can agree with.

Xanatos2007
06-09-2009, 12:23 AM
The term dagger generally refers to a short blade used for combat, while a knife is more for utilitarian purposes. But anything can be used as a weapon, and everything has more than one use.

Anyway, if you compare Ezio's outfit to the other people at the party then Ezio's seems less flashy.

braxton888
07-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Well i agree you guys are picking out the stupidest stuff, gosh, i love the game so far, and really hope he actually has weapons on him, i dont want to have to grab some guys weapon every time i fight, gay, heres another use for the cape, in the E3 demo, after he assassinates the guy, he jumps off the one thing, and his cape comes out and makes him glide down to the ground, maybe you can use this more efficiently? Idk all i know is this games a babe keep it up, hopefully we can talk and chat up girls since he likes them so much, id love to flirt and have some other interesting departure with an assassin game, then use her and throw her off a bridge for no reason. Ha Any more things that need to be resolved, we can answer them most likely.

EmperorxZurg
07-06-2009, 11:44 PM
Well, thats just quite disturbing. But you are going to be able to hire or ask a favor from some women, thieves too

SpyderNynja
07-07-2009, 06:08 AM
@ the weapons experts of the official forums:

Sheesh! Are you guys gonna stop arguing or do I have to get a ruler? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Ezio's outfit is awesome and fit for a nobleman. As Karasu said, "why else would I be in the process of making an authentic cosplay of it?" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

End of discussion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Now back on topic people http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

mcvxiii
07-07-2009, 01:54 PM
I personally like the way the character looks. It may be flash but that is how people dressed during the Italian Renaissance and people did wear capes then too. From what I have seen it is historically accurate so far.

I am excited to see more of the enviroments as this was a paticularlly beautiful time in Italian architecture.

hambo17
10-11-2009, 10:37 AM
I've changed my mind about Ezio. Now I think he looks awesome.
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/10023/1045561-ac2_r_001_ezio_super.jpg
The way he walks, he almost looks like a kind of magician. I also like his top or tunic whatever it is.

thekyle0
10-11-2009, 11:33 AM
AAAGGGHHHH! ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Charlie_Romeo
10-11-2009, 11:56 AM
People grab your shotguns we got some zombies to take care of!

SWJS
10-11-2009, 01:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Charlie_Romeo:
People grab your shotguns we got some zombies to take care of! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Who needs shotguns when you've got showerheads?

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/123306-destructoid-review-dead-rising-chop-till-you-drop/shower%20head-468x.jpg

SBRedFlag
10-11-2009, 01:49 PM
http://images-0.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/2919115-2-caution-zombies-may-be-flammable.jpg

I'll put this on every single zombie thread that pops up from now on.

zorak112
10-11-2009, 02:49 PM
You are http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

EmperorxZurg
10-11-2009, 03:11 PM
First the anti-christ, now zombies, when will it end!?
http://i36.tinypic.com/rrv1xz.jpg

Xanatos2007
10-11-2009, 11:35 PM
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7351/zombiethread.jpg

kingbren08
10-12-2009, 03:30 AM
what the hell happened just there?

NuclearFuss
10-12-2009, 12:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kingbren08:
what the hell happened just there? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Old posts came back to life, hence the term 'zombie post'

Black_Widow9
10-12-2009, 01:10 PM
and now...back to the Topic.