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Eldude95
12-02-2006, 04:22 PM
Boom and zoom are good for bombers turners for dogfighting. some people like one some the
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Hanglands
12-02-2006, 04:43 PM
Hi,

I am very much 'more of a bomber'. I love the challenge, I love long missions, I love being a target and getting home (even if I dont find or hit the actual target).

But from stuff Ive done in QMB and FMB I think Ive got a 'knack' for very low speed and low alt flying. Dont get me wrong, I totally suck online, I last about 7 minutes online. But against AI, I feel fairly confident in dragging most things down to 20m and rolling over the top of them as they turn to come in with a nice deflection shot at 190km/h.

But am happiest (at the mo) at 2.5km alt (in the clouds), in a flight of 12 IL-2 with some top cover. with my 8 rockets and 2xFAB 100.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MrMojok
12-02-2006, 05:08 PM
Boom and Zoom just suits my personal style a bit better. In some of the slower, but more manueverable planes, I feel like I have to

Eldude95
12-02-2006, 05:19 PM
You know ijust thought do you think Bnz are more stable than turn fighters. This is obviously important as a shakey fighter can mess up your aim bad. Some are logically more stable than others.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Xiolablu3
12-02-2006, 07:31 PM
I much prefer FW190 style fast planes that can dive well if I am attacking, or if I have time to get to hieght before I am likely to be attacked.

I die so, so much less in these planes as you can always escape a bad situation, nose down and zooom.

TnB, fast climbing planes are great for defense, but I am always being run down eventually by the faster planes..

For some of the common online miniwar matchups :-

104F4 vs SPit Vb/Vc = ALWAYS the 109F4

FW190A4 vs SPit V = Always the FW190A4.

Spit IX vs FW190A6/A8 = I would take the faster FW190A6

La5 vs 109G2= I would take the faster diving 109G2.

WildCat vs Contempory Zero = Wildcat


Of course if the other team were outnumbered I would fly the 'other' side regardless of what I prefer.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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FritzGryphon
12-02-2006, 07:41 PM
All planes can use BnZ or Turn. It really depends on the situation, which one you would do.

If I am in a Zero, and there are 10 wildcats below me, I will BnZ them.

If I am in a P-47, and I engage FW-190 on the deck, I will turn with it.

Xiolablu3
12-02-2006, 08:40 PM
I agree Fritz, but FW190, Hellcat (vs Zeros), Tempest etc are far better suited to B&Z becasue they have great high speed control, strong armament, and are faster than the opposition.

Try to B&Z in a Zero and you will have hardly any control at 600kph, whereas a Hellcat will manouvre just fine.

Try to dive away from FW190 in a Spitfire and he is going to catch you, however the FW190 will easily pull away from a Spitfire in a dive.

But I agree, you CAN use any plane for any use, its just that most are better suited for one or the other.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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ColoradoBBQ
12-02-2006, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Try to B&Z in a Zero and you will have hardly any control at 600kph, whereas a Hellcat will manouvre just fine.

Ah, but understand that sometimes there is that pilot whose beliefs of a non-BnZ Zero will be his downfall. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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M2morris
12-02-2006, 09:55 PM
I dont know what you call what I do. I just Immelman, split-S and thatch-weeve while keeping my speed up as high as possible and attacking like an angry hornet. The only time I ever follow-through on an attack is when I am sure there are no enemy wing-men to get on my 6, then I can slow down and finish a guy off, otherwise I keep moving and maintaining my energy, because I am always alone and against alot. (off-line) AI Aces. I am probably training myself in a bad way, I don't know.

Xiolablu3
12-02-2006, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by ColoradoBBQ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Try to B&Z in a Zero and you will have hardly any control at 600kph, whereas a Hellcat will manouvre just fine.

Ah, but understand that sometimes there is that pilot whose beliefs of a non-BnZ Zero will be his downfall. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


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Airmail109
12-03-2006, 05:38 AM
Theres a middle road called energy fighting as well you know.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VMF-214_HaVoK
12-03-2006, 11:25 AM
BnZ has been the more successful style of combat since WW1. TnB is stuff of romance and fantasy. A good BnZ pilot vs an equally skilled TnB pilot wins every time...be sure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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