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thefruitbat
01-10-2010, 02:25 PM
haha, i just came across this screens searching for something else, and it took me right back.

This was the first flight sim i ever got, on my atari st,

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/941867874-00.gif

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173036626-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173036682-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1255011281-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173037180-00.png

I can even remember upgrading from 512k to a huge 1024k memory, just so i could see wings if i looked left and right!

I loved this game, and its manual is still the best i have ever recieved with a game, wish i still had it!

So, what was your first flight sim?

fruitbat

thefruitbat
01-10-2010, 02:25 PM
haha, i just came across this screens searching for something else, and it took me right back.

This was the first flight sim i ever got, on my atari st,

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/941867874-00.gif

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173036626-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173036682-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1255011281-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173037180-00.png

I can even remember upgrading from 512k to a huge 1024k memory, just so i could see wings if i looked left and right!

I loved this game, and its manual is still the best i have ever recieved with a game, wish i still had it!

So, what was your first flight sim?

fruitbat

Choctaw111
01-10-2010, 02:41 PM
Their Finest Hour was GREAT for its time. I flew it on the Amiga with 1 Meg of memory.
Battle Hawks 1942 was even before that and made by the same team as TFH I believe.
I was flying on sims back in the early 80's, but I don't think they count for much as far as a "real" simulator goes.

Spitslayer17
01-10-2010, 02:52 PM
I had Their Finest Hour but my fondest memories are from Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe and Aces Over Europe.

Uufflakke
01-10-2010, 03:12 PM
I've seen the same topic two months ago at the Off Topic forum.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...236/m/9901084308/p/1 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2601013236/m/9901084308/p/1)

My first flight sim was CFS2 and then 3 and now IL2

thefruitbat
01-10-2010, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uufflakke:
I've seen the same topic two months ago at the Off Topic forum.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...236/m/9901084308/p/1 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2601013236/m/9901084308/p/1)

My first flight sim was CFS2 and then 3 and now IL2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif my bad, must of missed that one, oh well...

WhiteKnight77
01-10-2010, 03:18 PM
Jane's Fighter Anthology.

megalopsuche
01-10-2010, 03:27 PM
The first version of FS after microsoft bought it (monochrome on a 512k macintosh).

Pudfark
01-10-2010, 03:34 PM
For me it was F-15 Strike Eagle on an old 8088..no hardrive and dual 5 1/2 inch floppies...then found out it wouldn't work with out RGB monitor..so spent an xtra $300 to replace the monochrome monitor....and I thought I was in hog heaven....1984

BillSwagger
01-10-2010, 03:34 PM
I have the Microsoft FS manual from 1983 sitting right next to me.
All the navigation tools are still useful in today's sims.

Pudfark
01-10-2010, 03:39 PM
oopsies....

That was back in the day when memory chips sold for $40.00 a meg....now, I look at my new rig with 4gig...shake my head in wonderment...when folks say that they can't afford an upgrade....

Old Sancho.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Insuber
01-10-2010, 04:04 PM
My very first "flight sim" was a Sinclair Spectrum 48k game. It was a glider simulation, using symbols on a map: it was more a strategy game than a flight sim ... LOL. Next came a plane simulation, again for the Spectrum ... the visual was from inside the "cockpit" if I rememeber well ... The funniest thing was the steady fart noise from the Spectrum speaker. But with some tenths of kilobyte of coding, what would you ask more? It looked a wonder for those early times :-)

Bye,
Insuber

Sillius_Sodus
01-10-2010, 04:11 PM
TFH and SWOTL were pretty fair strategy games in their day as well. That you could also fly missions was an added bonus.

wolf-striked
01-10-2010, 04:12 PM
Their finest hour here also.I loved having to fly across the channel in that sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif .The tension when bombers were spotted was super kool.

Rjel
01-10-2010, 04:19 PM
LucasArts TFH:BoB was my first also. Saw the game being played in the window of Babbage Software in 1989. Bought a computer just to play it. It had great game play.

The_Stealth_Owl
01-10-2010, 04:30 PM
In 2005 I got MS2004 and then I got the Original IL2 soon after that.

rgmw-largie
01-10-2010, 04:35 PM
At the risk of showing my age ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif) my first was "Tornado Low Level" followed by Digital Integrations "Fighter Pilot", both on the ZX Spectrum. After that it was "Gunship" on the PC followed by "X-Wing".

Dave

Dance
01-10-2010, 04:48 PM
Airfix Flight Deck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.sciuridae.co.uk/articles/flight_deck/images/Copy%20of%20flightdeck2%20008.jpg

thefruitbat
01-10-2010, 04:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rgmw-largie:
At the risk of showing my age ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif) my first was "Tornado Low Level" followed by Digital Integrations "Fighter Pilot", both on the ZX Spectrum. After that it was "Gunship" on the PC followed by "X-Wing".

Dave </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wouldn't worry to much about showing your age, i think the replies to this thread already show that most of us are older than we'd want!

x-wing, now theres another game/series that i really liked. I bought my first pc, a dx2 66, i think, just to play tie fighter after seeing it at a friends...

thefruitbat
01-10-2010, 04:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dance:
Airfix Flight Deck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.sciuridae.co.uk/articles/flight_deck/images/Copy%20of%20flightdeck2%20008.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you see the James May program about toys on the BBC, he talked about this, v funny!

rgmw-largie
01-10-2010, 04:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dance:
Airfix Flight Deck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.sciuridae.co.uk/articles/flight_deck/images/Copy%20of%20flightdeck2%20008.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cor, that's not Airfix "Flight Deck" ... that's Airfix "Super Flight Deck" !

Dance
01-10-2010, 05:00 PM
True, the original was an all blue Phantom, but couldn't find a photo of that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yer saw that prog Fruitbat lol, he is just younger than me too, philistine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

PanzerAce
01-10-2010, 05:32 PM
http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Eric_B/Terminal_Velocity_Coverart.png

One of the best games I ever played, all with a three button joystick :P

Frankthetank36
01-10-2010, 06:44 PM
MCFS2

mortoma
01-10-2010, 07:55 PM
This is about the 100th thread on this over the years so I'll answer for the 100th time. I got Falcon 3 about 1993 on a floppy disk and shortly after I got MSFS on two floppies. That's about all I can remember. I really think when I first got it, it was not MSFS but then it was still done by Bruce Artwick Organization or something like that. Maybe, I think?? Hard to remember but it was Microsoft soon afterward.

It was the era of the 386 and 486SX/DX and you did most stuff like sims in DOS and you had to streamline your config.sys and autoexec.bat all the time to get enough free memory to run well. A PC divided memory up into several subtypes of memory, IIRC.

triad773
01-10-2010, 08:15 PM
I feel old when I look at IL-2 graphics and remember when I played this on an Apple II+
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Flight_Simulator_1.0_short_animation.thumb.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...ple_II_.26_TRS-80.29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Flight_Simulator#First_genera tion_.28FS1_for_Apple_II_.26_TRS-80.29)

I know I have responded to at least one of these threads before, but it was before the one linked from the last page.

Oh well. It's fun to remember sometimes.

jamesblonde1979
01-10-2010, 08:59 PM
http://www.myabandonware.com/media/captures/H/hellcat-ace/hellcat-ace_5.png

Yep, at school we had this on one of the computers for a while. I was the only kid who ever got a kill...

From there I went on to this...

http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/3750/F-19%20Stealth%20Fighter_4.png

http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/3750/F-19%20Stealth%20Fighter_7.png

And along with a school mate was one of a handful who actually discovered how to release the break and take off from the carrier.

Then along came 'Battlehawks' and 'Their Finest Hour' which I loved.

Things got 3d after this with Heroes of the 357th...

http://www.gryzonie.pl/uploads/stare-gry/screens/Heroes-Of-The-357th_100.jpg

on to SWOTL, Red Baron, Aces of the Pacific, Aces over Europe and Chuck Yeagers Air Combat.

All excellent games but the sim world really started moving with European Air War, that game was superb. CFS2 was pretty good, Janes WW2 fighters was excellent (especially the physics, better than il2 IMO)

Naturally I ended up buying a copy of Il-2 in a bargain bin. The rest, as they say, is history.

megalopsuche
01-10-2010, 09:23 PM
Jamesblonde, if you have a story behind that sig, I'd love to hear it. It makes me laugh every time I read it.

jamesblonde1979
01-10-2010, 10:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by megalopsuche:
Jamesblonde, if you have a story behind that sig, I'd love to hear it. It makes me laugh every time I read it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hehe, yeah.

There's this site called Igod, it's one of those answerbots and I decided to ask it some Il-2 related questions. My sig is a quote from that particular session.

baronWastelan
01-10-2010, 10:24 PM
Blue Max, cassette tape, for Atari 800.

http://www.atarimania.com/game...xe-blue-max_699.html (http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-blue-max_699.html)

TheGrunch
01-11-2010, 12:38 AM
MiG-29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiG-29_Fulcrum_%281990_video_game%29), the one from 1990 with the awesome theme-tune. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Then...erm...Aces over Europe and Aces of the Pacific. Comanche, US Navy Fighters, US Navy Fighters 97, WWII Fighters, CFS. Good times. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mmitch10
01-11-2010, 01:38 AM
Aviator on the BBC, depicting the classic confrontation between Spitfires and aliens.

Xiolablu3
01-11-2010, 03:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTyyps_cCk

Was good at the time :P

b2spirita
01-11-2010, 04:20 AM
I started on MFCS 2, then one, then il-2. Odd progression.

Seeing these old images and vids makes me wonder what it'll be like in 20 years and whether il-2 will look as dated.

TheGrunch
01-11-2010, 04:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b2spirita:
Seeing these old images and vids makes me wonder what it'll be like in 20 years and whether il-2 will look as dated. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I think it looks dated now...so yes, probably. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FishCookie
01-11-2010, 05:38 AM
Top Gun by Ocean on the speccy48k and the 48K+ (now with reset button!) using a sweet Kingston joystick that I bolted to my desk because I kept ripping off the sucker feet in dog fights.

There was another game that had you piloting a jetcopter in a wireframe city environment and you had to shoot at black circles which were police droids who had gone bad but I can't remember the name.
Back in those days the box art was really important so you could imagine how cool everything looked as in game it was very basic.

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Bearcat99
01-11-2010, 05:42 AM
Well for me of course it all started in the arcade... My absolute first flight sim was this WWI thing that I used to drop quarters in at Playland in Times Square as a kid. It had these mylar slides of WWI aircraft.. and when you would hit one the slide with flames would pop up.. In true arcade fashion from those days the whole thing mechanically was probably pretty small as the image was projected onto the screen at the front of the game...

Then of course there was Defender.. not a true flight sim but you could fly & shoot in 2 dimensions .. and After Burner.

Enter the PC/Nintendo age...

I had this thing for the Sega system called F-16 Fighting Falcon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WwFAz2WxM).. I could use both controllers to fly it.. it was very basic..

My first PC sim was F-117 Stealth Fighter by Microprose (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBLRMbDWgs&feature=related) although mine didn't look quite that good because I was playing it on a 386 DX with @ 8M of RAM and a S3Virge video card..

The next sim I got was Warbirds II. That was my first WWII flight sim.. but there wasn't uch I could do with it.. the good thing about that ione for me though was that it had a Redtail P-51C in it stock.. It was the only flight sim I ever had that had Redtail skins as stock aircraft.. but there wasn't much I could do with it.. the offline was lacking and at the time I was on dial up in N.Y.C. ad a host of other things going on in my life..

Then I moved to Va. .. and I got CFS1... that's when all this really just kinda took off... After flying CFS1 for a year I upgraded my PC for CFS3.. and then I figured since I could now run it why not try this IL-2 thing... and that was all she wrote.

Sturmtrooper
01-11-2010, 09:14 AM
Jane's WWII Fighters
then..
European Air War
then..
Microsoft Combat Flight Sim II
then(finally)..
Il-2 Sturmovik
which led to..
1946

BluesmanSF
01-11-2010, 09:42 AM
Yo!

It seems I'm fairly "new school", as the first ever sim I got into my hands was European Air War. Instantly fell in love with that one, flying, of course, with a keyboard.

It really is funny, when now flying, for example Black Shark with a full HOTAS, rudder pedals, using TrackIr to lock targets and shouting them to squadmates via TeamSpeak, and still complaining for some minor nuance which I don't like or something similar completely trivial. I'm SO spoiled =D

Blues

Stiletto-
01-11-2010, 05:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I had this thing for the Sega system called F-16 Fighting Falcon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WwFAz2WxM).. I could use both controllers to fly it.. it was very basic.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sega Master System was my first video game system and I loved it, my uncle had this game and I remember playing it but it was probably a little too advance for my young age in the mid to late 80's.

Here is pretty much a chronological list of flight sims from when I first played them, not necessaritly when they came out:

IFR Simulator

This was on the vic 20, had no visuals besides gauges and you used a map grid in the manual to figure out if you were going to hit a mountain, I can not find any image on the web besides this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io3Fm6jDzU4

http://www.volny.cz/havlikjosef/covers/MSFS2.1_box.gif

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/apple-ii-games/32-1.jpg

http://snakemasterproductions.com/softpics/red_baron.jpg

http://img.listal.com/image/495759/200full-microsoft-flight-simulator-500-.jpg

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Aces_of_the_Pacific_Coverart.png

http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/object/722/722103/acesovereurope_pcboxboxart_160w.jpg

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/dos-games/687-1.jpg

Does this count?

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/dos-games/1906-1.jpg

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/dos-games/2244-1.jpg

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g096/g09600uhuro.jpg

http://img.listal.com/image/504827/200full-world-war-2-fighters-pc.jpg

http://www.licentejocuri.ro/images/IL%202%20Sturmovik.jpg

na85
01-11-2010, 05:57 PM
First flight sim was F4U Corsair by Aviation Adventure.

First REAL flight sim was IL2.

Fiberbot
01-11-2010, 06:01 PM
This thread brings back memories to us all. I think it was 1985 when Micro Prose created F15 Strike Eagle, someone mentioned this here. I remember the planes rendered in wireframe? Not sure if it was on my (parents) floppy based Commodore 64 or IBM PC Jr? And to think we are all waiting for SOW!!! Wow!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

Sillius_Sodus
01-11-2010, 06:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Well for me of course it all started in the arcade... My absolute first flight sim was this WWI thing that I used to drop quarters in at Playland in Times Square as a kid. It had these mylar slides of WWI aircraft.. and when you would hit one the slide with flames would pop up.. In true arcade fashion from those days the whole thing mechanically was probably pretty small as the image was projected onto the screen at the front of the game... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yeah, I remember that one. It seemed very advanced compared to the game where these plastic biplanes would fly by and it you hit them, would dive into the "ground". The force feedback on he gun was pretty cool though...

Didn't anyone here play Strike Commander? It had very advanced graphics for its time.

Woke_Up_Dead
01-11-2010, 06:30 PM
I think it was F-15 Strike Eagle III that I played on a 486. I remember that the night missions were really atmospheric: sitting there with almost complete darkness outside, tracking the little blips on the green radar screen, jumping when something started approaching me or when alarms sounded.

I tried a few others later, but the next one was "Hind", the Soviet helicopter simulator. That's when I acquired a taste for something outside the usual western planes offered in games and simulators.

crucislancer
01-11-2010, 07:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fiberbot:
This thread brings back memories to us all. I think it was 1985 when Micro Prose created F15 Strike Eagle, someone mentioned this here. I remember the planes rendered in wireframe? Not sure if it was on my (parents) floppy based Commodore 64 or IBM PC Jr? And to think we are all waiting for SOW!!! Wow!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This was my first as well, on the C64.

Choctaw111
01-11-2010, 07:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crucislancer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fiberbot:
This thread brings back memories to us all. I think it was 1985 when Micro Prose created F15 Strike Eagle, someone mentioned this here. I remember the planes rendered in wireframe? Not sure if it was on my (parents) floppy based Commodore 64 or IBM PC Jr? And to think we are all waiting for SOW!!! Wow!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This was my first as well, on the C64. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

F-15 Strike Eagle was OK, but I remember complaining that it had two guns, instead of just one.

AndyJWest
01-11-2010, 07:23 PM
My first (I think) was 'Fighter Pilot' from Digital Integration (1985), on an Amstrad CPC 464. I've still got the game, and the computer, see here. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2601013236/m/4201057187?r=1661029187#1661029187)

TheGrunch
01-12-2010, 12:54 AM
Oh, I forgot about Dogfight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfight_%281993_computer_game%29), Overlord (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlord_%281994_video_game%29), Flying Corps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Corps) and TFX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFX_%28computer_game%29)!

Phas3e
01-12-2010, 01:41 AM
Played a few Console ones like F117, Mig29 and Strike eagle but my first PC Sim was European Air War closely followed by Janes F15.

Played a few randoms before find IL2 and I havnt ventured far since.

Sharpe26
01-12-2010, 01:59 AM
started out with aces over Europe and Red Baron. Then this came along

http://www.ibiblio.org/GameBytes/issue20/greviews/paw1.gif

Together with this

http://sunsite.nus.sg/GameBytes/issue18/misc/f144.gif

and one of these

http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20020412/longbow.gif

And yeah I had this one as well

http://pcmedia.ign.com/media/reviews/image/janesww2001_640w.jpg

Back then I was hoping that something resembling the damage model of ww2fighters along with the depth of gameplay you got with European Airwar came along. You can guess what I discovered next......

Viikate_
01-12-2010, 04:34 AM
Ace of Aces on C-64.
http://www.lemon64.com/?mainur.../view.php%3Fid%3D313 (http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64.com/reviews/view.php%3Fid%3D313)

This is classic. Bombing trains, subs, shooting down German fighters & V-1s. This had some really cool things. Engine could burst into flames and you had to use fire extinguisher to put it out. When main fuel tank was empty, you had to switch manually to external tank. Also the cool pit has AI radar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

FI.Spitsfire
01-12-2010, 05:59 AM
Dogfight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfight_(video_game))

I spent hours shooting down DR1's in F4's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MikkOwl
01-12-2010, 06:21 AM
Well, might as well write a little story of my passion for flight simming from way back. The list comes first. I recently compiled it due to my return to flightsimming after many years.

I was born in 1980. Technically my real first flight game was "Thunder Blade", a coin-up arcade machine by SEGA from 1985 or something like that, but it was third person so it does not quite qualify. The rest in the list are from the cockpit and have some resemblance to flying, even if in space.

They are divided in three segments. The Commodore 64 section, Amiga 500 section, and then PC section. The year next to the title is not when it was published, but when I got my hands on it.

http://hem.bredband.net/mikko.artist/mikksimlist.gif

Ace of Aces was the true first. I didn't even know any english (you can imagine that I had to learn a lot by reading the massive manuals for some of these games and understanding how it worked). It was only in the past few years I actually learned what a Mosquito was (the plane in Ace of Aces), that I was shooting down V1 cruise missiles and many other basic things. 20 years from experience to knowledge.

And yes, Their Finest Hour was an amazing sim, the manual was mindblowingly good, including lots of info about history, with quotes and pictures. However, the graphical engine represented planes as sprites and that made it look awful, even compared to crude 3d models.

I did not play all of them equally. Many I only gave a slight bit of time before moving on. But some I played very intensely, maybe hundreds of hours. In order of how much I was into them:

1. F/A-18 Interceptor
2. F-19 Stealth Fighter
3. Fighter-Bomber (Was called STRIKE ACES in USA)
4. Birds of Prey
5. Their Finest Hour

Now the story:

Always interested in technology and machinery. And, flight especially (the violent kind). Seeing "Top Gun" as a child when I was about 8 years old only reinforced my interest. I'd always love the arcade machines on the cruise ships between Sweden and Finland when traveling (arcades were very rare around here).

Enter the Commodore 64 for xmas 1988, and a copy of "Ace of Aces". I played all kinds of games, but flying was the most interesting. Once when I was 9 years old, I was in a computer store with my older friend (who also had a C64) when going to buy "Sid Meier's Pirates!", we saw an Amiga 500 running a demo of F-16 Combat Pilot, and we were absolutely blown away. We had to get our hands on that stuff. Later that year, we did. Xmas 1990, Amiga 500 and a bunch of flight sims came my way. I was 10 years old. And modern planes with jet engines was what I lusted the most for.

As the years passed, I went through many, but a few (in the list above) stood out. "Wings" with it's charming WW1 combat was a real winner, too, and Elite 2: Frontiers, despite being a space sim. I'd spend endless hours in those sims, I read the manuals carefully (F-19 Stealth Fighter manual I read in now and then even today - that awesome cold-war feel). I'd try everything imaginable in them.

A PC was found in the family home in 1996. But I was sidetracked by the amazing 3D graphics, science fiction mech sims like Mechwarrior 2, star wars stuff, etc. Things I couldn't really play before. CH Combat Stick + Rudder used mainly for these games. Slight attempts at flight sims but they had advanced rapidly from the ones I had flown earlier, and I was frustrated at how ****ty I was at them (realistic flight models with stalls and torque effects took me by surprise. Also I never had bothered with the idea of using rudders, which didn't help). The sci-fi stuff was so great anyway.

My teen years were past and at age 21, in 2002, I got a copy of IL-2 Sturmovik as a 'token' gesture by the company for being late with delivery or something like that. Having spent years away from any proper flight simming I decided to check it out. I still had my CH Combat Stick and CH Throttle (They were already 7 years old and worn, the throttle spiking nastily and the stick very loose with very little self centering). I found it nearly impossible to fly, even less shoot down an enemy. And I couldn't find a way to control the rudders either (didn't really understand how necessary they were still). No view keys set up, no fov control. It was a bit of a disaster. Joystick courve could have been set up better too, to say the least. Not being very interested in propeller planes (except some minor WW1) I shelved it, and flight simming anyway. Lustfully I thought back to the days when flying jets and helicopters, mainly in OP Flashpoint.

7 years later, I had just turned 29. I had became a bit of an audiophile with excellent headphones, and had a large 24" LCD 16:10 screen. I enjoyed a lot of simracing in absense of the flight simming, and even managed to get a G25 wheel (most excellent). An interest in WW2 had developed over the years (Wikipedia!) and a similarly interested friend dragged me into WWII Online and it's planes. Tried a trial for two weeks. Even wagered that it might be fun and bought a 40 logitech spring joystick with twist, and used the G25 pedals as rudder. The flying was a great fun experience, it turned out, but the game and it's environment was not fun in the slightest. Only permitting the earliest war planes, with extreme amounts of accomplishments to get anything better, I was put against hordes of veterans that literally (I checked) had been playing online, often since 2001 - 8 years, at least 3, and their logged combat flight time was between 200 and 6000 hours (good grief) with the average being something around 2000. Guys who spent 6-7 hours a day for the past 3 years, without skipping a single day (i.e. they cannot possibly hold jobs). It was impossible to accomplish anything in this environment. Even learning, as there was no such thing as doing anything right against people like that. Did I mention they had the very best planes available in the game at their disposal as well? And that their logs indicated they flew only on one side (RAF for example)?

It is notable that while I learned to use rudders somewhat with WWII online for those two weeks, I was taken by complete surprise by the 109 shaking, stalling and spinning out from just applying too much elevators in turns. I didn't even understand that stall can be had even at higher speeds, and thought that front heavy prop planes couldn't possibly pull so much to get a high angle of attack - I thought that ability only existed in unstable planes that need fly by wire controls like the F-16.

I cancelled the trial and bought a copy of IL-2 1946. Much, much better, with great singleplayer to boot. While planning to expand my sim gear, I got myself a saitek quadrant and used it for flaps, throttle, prop pitch and other things, and put the G25 (900 degrees rotation) as elevator trim wheel, mounted perfectly on the left side (best most real trim ever!). Oh the golden days were coming back to me. I loved it so much I spent old savings on a TrackIR 5 a few months later, and then relatives found out and paid for part of a Logitech G940. I have joined the dark side.

The one thing that changed is that, while I loved jets before, now I think propeller planes are by far the most fun. Playing with a modern jet fighter operating system to launch missiles and manage radars reminds me of wrestling with Windows XP. Shooting at dots just is not as appealing as an MG-FF/M pointed at a Spitfire.

Here I am, the G940 is only a week old. My path back to my affectionate relationship with flight simming was nearly 14 years long, but it survived. And I can't wait for "Storm of War" to come out.

Trinity_Jay
01-12-2010, 12:39 PM
I'm a '69 child and B-17 Bomber on the Intellivision in 1982 was my first flight simulator. It 'talked' and was a rather sophisticated sim for its time.

Jayhttp://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/Jayslater/b17bomber.jpg http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/Jayslater/b-17_bomber1.png
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww90/Jayslater/b-173.jpg

Fogmaster_
01-12-2010, 02:19 PM
first that I ever flew was Red baron in the early 90s.

Then X-wing or tie-fighter I forget which one...

Then the "aces" games and then I took a looooong break and played 1946 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

myrrhcedar
01-13-2010, 01:33 AM
My first flight game was "Captain Skyhawk" on original nintendo. You can google some screen shots... It was actually pretty psychedelic.

My first sim was Flight Simulator '98. That was pretty fun, but I wasn't really into airplanes in general until I saw some Nazi Me 109 and Fascist Serie III gas-powered R/C planes in the "Tower Hobbies" catalog; I fell in love with them. Still IMO the 4 most attractive aircraft (Me 109, RE.2005, Mc.205, G.55.

I got an a-10 warthog sim I really liked, forget the exact name.

I got Janes: USAF and that was just amazing to me back then, I remember coming home from school and just trashing my homework and shooting down migs.

I got Comabat Flight Simulator... didn't get into it, In fact I can't even really remember what it was like.

I actually bought Il-2 by accident; it came free with LOMAC, which was fun for all of 10 minutes (once you learn how to lock onto a target, fire, then afterburn away, that's kind of it, not because its a bad game but because its a jet game).

I didn't like IL-2 at first. After getting used to modern planes, you don't really know much about the amount of momentum required to keep a plane flying back in the '30s and '40s. I remember snoring around the map at 100 mph with throttle at 110% stalling every time I gained any altitude because "diving" was a pretty foreign concept. After I played the tutorial and got Pacific Fighters which had those really fun pearl harbor scramble missions, I loved it. Since then, DCS: Black Shark and waiting for SoW.

X32Wright
01-13-2010, 03:15 AM
Mine was a paper airplane when I was 5 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jure_502
01-13-2010, 03:36 AM
1999 - Combat flight simulator 1
2000~2002 - Combat flight Simulator 2
2003-present Il-2 Sturmovik (all titles)

My friend then bought CFS 3, we played it but wasn't impressed, I allready was a Il-2 preacher http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I enjoyed CFS 1 and CFS 2, CFS had some great graphic for it's time IMO, especially damage effects, I liked it alot, but when I played Il-2, I knew nothing can beat it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

sveper
01-13-2010, 04:25 AM
My first was Air warrior 2. Did not fly very much though. Grafics was pretty horrible (compared to flashy pictures on cd envelope).

Next try was CFS 2 (or maby WW2 Fighters?) and I made efforts to fly a little bit more. But thought campaigns were long and boring. Flying lessons was funny though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I also own WW2 Fighters that I flew for a while. Tried to install the game on my new pc but it did not work that well.

Then I decided to make a last try, bought 1946 Sturmovik and now Im definitely stuck. I hope it will last a looong time.

Swep

larschance
01-13-2010, 10:21 AM
Like others here my first was the simple Spectrum fighter pilot game where you looked out of a line drawn cockpit. I was excited also by an Atari WW1 game because it was the first one where you could fly against another human. I remember it used two disc controls and you flew in circles firing like mad. Great fun. Also there was a WW1 C64 game based on boardgame moves which was good fun.
The first immersive sim I had was Strike from the Sky. The graphics were hexagonal based on the style of the posters of the period and you could end up fighting endless numbers of EA which caused some tense moments.It also had a good aero engine sound.
Had many hours on the TFH, the Aces series, SWOTL, C Yeager, etc. Shame they wont play on new PCs. Have many ops to do on Il2 which will keep me busy till SOW or when my eyesight fails. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

AWL_Spinner
01-13-2010, 11:56 AM
The groundbreakers for me were:

Microprose Gunship (Amstrad CPC464, cassette)
Chuck Yeager's Combat Flight Simulator (386SX-20)
DID EF2000 (Pentium 133)

Swivet
01-13-2010, 12:02 PM
Novalogic's- F-22 Raptor/F-22 Lightning 3, as well as Star Wars X-wing Alliance.

Achilles97
01-14-2010, 09:09 AM
1) Wings 2: Aces High for SNES.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_2
Rented this game for my SNES and it was great. I really liked the music, especially during the bombing missions. Had a great feel to it.


2) Microprose B17 Flying Fortress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...Fortress_(video_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-17_Flying_Fortress_(video_game))

This game was very addicting and immersive to me because I had never played anything so in depth. It was great switching around positions as the FW190s came in. I was always disappointed that I never saw a bf109 even though they were listed in the manual. The taking off and forming up was impressive because of all the different things going on. I liked trying to get back to base after losing a couple of engines. It was tense!
The day after I played this for the first time I had to go on a 3-day field trip with JROTC to Kelly AFB (I got to fly in a C5) and the whole time I was itching to get back home to play B17. I got home late and I was starving but I went straight to the computer and just munched on Gartdetto's Mustard Pretzels. To this day, every time I smell mustard I think of B17...


3) Aces of the Pacific
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aces_of_the_Pacific
My friend had this game and we had a hard time getting it to run on his computer. It required 610k of free conventional memory but the computer only had 640k total. After tons of research we finally created a boot disk that disabled everything but the bare minimum and we could play the game. We were always excited when the game told us that we did combat with a Japanese ace.

We also had Aces over Europe but we never got it to run...

4) Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe

5) WarBirds.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim...age&tag=images;img;2 (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/warbirds/images/0/2/?om_act=convert&om_clk=gsimage&tag=images;img;2)

This was the first multiplayer flight sim I ever played. A copy came with my Logitech joystick. It was fun but playing multiplayer over a 21k dial-up connection was terrible.

6) Janes WWII Fighters. The intro to this game was AWESOME.

7) MS Combat Flight Sim 1. For some reason I didn't like this game. The physics seemed very odd, like I was looking through a jar or using alien vision.

8) Falcon 4.0 I got this game so my friend and I could play multiplayer. The first time we played, we were flying in formation and I shot a missile at a bandit... well it was locked onto my friend and it shot him down. He stopped playing and wouldn't play again, saying that it was too complicated...

9) IL2 Forgotten Battles. I saw a review of this when it first came out on G4 or whatever that computer channel is. Been playing ever since, with all the expansions.

major_setback
01-14-2010, 11:53 AM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g014/g014220oe30.jpg

Just landing it without a joystick was enormous fun http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Actually, I was never that interested in modern aircraft, but I found it cheap; second hand.
I can't remember when I bought it, but it was before Janes WWII fighters, which really got me hooked on WWII flying.

Xiolablu3
01-14-2010, 04:02 PM
Anyone remember Total Air War with its cool dynamic campaign?

That was a great sim at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fKO1Kcs90

Really seemed like a real war was taking place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sillius_Sodus
01-15-2010, 10:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Anyone remember Total Air War with its cool dynamic campaign?

That was a great sim at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fKO1Kcs90

Really seemed like a real war was taking place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can still play it, there is a user-made update to the sim. You'll need a glide wrapper and a cpu slowdown program. It still runs a little too quickly but is still a surprisingly good game.

There are threads on it over at Sim HQ.

I'm going to try to get Mig Alley working now.

Tully__
01-16-2010, 04:41 AM
More or less in order:

European Air War / Faclcon 4.0 (bargain pack that included both and a couple others that either wouldn't run or were so buggy I only flew them once)
MS Combat Flight Sim 2
MS FS98
MS Combat Flight Sim (yeah, got 'em in the wrong order)
IL2 Sturmovik
IL2 Forgotten Battles
Aces Expansion Pack
MS FS2002
Pacific Fighters
IL2 "Complete" Edition (which of course is no longer complete)
IL2 Sturmovik: 1946

Somewhere in there I also got Fly2K! as well.

thefruitbat
01-16-2010, 04:43 AM
how many remember b17, the mighty eight. I'd forgotten about that one, use to love that!

Billy_BigBoy
01-16-2010, 03:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crucislancer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fiberbot:
This thread brings back memories to us all. I think it was 1985 when Micro Prose created F15 Strike Eagle, someone mentioned this here. I remember the planes rendered in wireframe? Not sure if it was on my (parents) floppy based Commodore 64 or IBM PC Jr? And to think we are all waiting for SOW!!! Wow!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This was my first as well, on the C64. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

F-15 Strike Eagle was OK, but I remember complaining that it had two guns, instead of just one. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

For me it was F-15 Strike Eagle as well. On an Atari 64 that was http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Flying with two joysticks, sitting on me bed, I logged me first few hundred flyinghours.

One of the best sims the old days I can remember was Janes Navy Fighters '97. By that time I had almost 15 years of flying experience, but I loved the Crusader and the Tomcat, dealing with MiGs and Tupolevs.

Jure_502
01-17-2010, 03:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:
how many remember b17, the mighty eight. I'd forgotten about that one, use to love that! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I remember it! I loved to sit in a cockpit of a 109 and attack those huge formations of B17's, quite deadly, for 109 ufcourse. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
And all the positions in B17 playable, great feeling.
Don't know where my copy is now though...

major_setback
01-17-2010, 08:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Anyone remember Total Air War with its cool dynamic campaign?

That was a great sim at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fKO1Kcs90

Really seemed like a real war was taking place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes. Actually that was the game I was thinking of, not F22 Raptor.

SeaFireLIV
01-17-2010, 09:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Anyone remember Total Air War with its cool dynamic campaign?

That was a great sim at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4fKO1Kcs90

Really seemed like a real war was taking place. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was a great fan of this sim. I loved the dynamic campaigns of which they were about 10! I never really got it to run smoothly. The sounds and images from that utube link bring it all back. Loved it especially dealing with *****in betty!

There were great missions were you could investigate and shadow a potential intruder, but could not fire until HE opened fire. You had to follow certain rules. Brilliant stuff.

It was one of the last jet sims that I truly loved before WW2 sims like EAW started walking in.

Treetop64
01-17-2010, 03:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/941867874-00.gif

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173036626-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173036682-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1255011281-00.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/1173037180-00.png

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Boy, these brought back some memories, not so much of the games themselves as much as what my life was like back when I had these games...

Gammelpreusse
01-17-2010, 03:59 PM
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/atari-st-games/271-1.jpg

On an Atari 1040ST =)

thefruitbat
01-17-2010, 04:26 PM
do you remember the manual, it was fantastic, wish i still had it, full of little bits of history.

oh, i had it on an atari 1040STE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

K_Freddie
01-18-2010, 03:47 PM
This is it.... 1984 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Crappy graphics.. lousy gameplay.... but it was a revolution in 3D environment..
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/FP.jpg

LLv26_Morko
01-22-2010, 08:09 AM
Microproses Spitfire Ace

http://images.google.fi/imgres...9ZS8CmDsed-Aa644CQDQ (http://images.google.fi/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lemon64.com/games/screenshots/thumbs/s/spitfire_ace.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.lemon64.com/games/list.php%3Ftype%3Dpublisher%26name%3DMicroProse%25 20Software&usg=__ePH6frNZAdZ1WGP_yQ_zdT92Qp4=&h=100&w=160&sz=2&hl=fi&start=3&sig2=dIXQtpSjFEvIPL82JsLr7A&um=1&tbnid=M_kkkyGf6tvdLM:&tbnh=61&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dspitfire%2Bace%26hl%3Dfi%26sa%3DN%26u m%3D1&ei=Dr9ZS8CmDsed-Aa644CQDQ)

after that Digital Integrations Fighter Pilot and f-15 Strike eagle , all on trusty C-64 and as cassettes lol

triad773
01-22-2010, 11:41 AM
LoLz!

All these references to B-17 Mighty Eight-

I remember in gunnery practice where if I took the paintballs and focused my fire on the other bomber's windshield, it went down http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

noobisoft
01-22-2010, 11:57 AM
F-15 Strike Eagle on an Atari 1040 ST

Gammelpreusse
01-22-2010, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:
do you remember the manual, it was fantastic, wish i still had it, full of little bits of history.

oh, i had it on an atari 1040STE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I still have it, it has everything good bathroom lecture is about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

snob!

P.S. what really stayed with me was steering with a mouse in this game, and how I loved flying the 109 simply because it posessed so much of this ammo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

thefruitbat
01-22-2010, 12:26 PM
i'm jealous http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif, i remember i loved the cannon on the 109, it was great http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

i've just remembered another, i can't belive i forgot it, again on my atari st,



http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/6/952886_111786_front.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
01-23-2010, 04:59 AM
Do you suppose any of these are worth anything? I have a couple shelves full of them including Spctrum Holobyte's Tornado, Chuck Yeager Air Combat, - all the Dynamex ones like - Red Baron, Aces High, AOTP.

A shame to trash them when I move.

Stiletto-
01-23-2010, 02:27 PM
maybe a few bucks but not much. Have a look on ebay, though there are a few people trying to get alot more for a game that is still sealed in the box. Never understood that hobbby as it's not particulary impressive to look at a collection of cardboard in shrink rap.

Treetop64
01-23-2010, 02:51 PM
My very first flight sim was some "Chuck Yeager" flight simulator on the prehistoric Commodore 64. Flyable aircraft included the SR-71, who's visual model consisted of an elongated black pyramid, and a flat triangle polygon for the wing.

Anyone remember that...?

VXB77016
01-23-2010, 07:24 PM
The original MS Flight Simulator and a program called JET! were my first flight sims. Both ran on an IBM 8086 and featured un-filled wire frame graphics.

crucislancer
01-23-2010, 07:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VXB77016:
The original MS Flight Simulator and a program called JET! were my first flight sims. Both ran on an IBM 8086 and featured un-filled wire frame graphics. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember Jet! Did that come out before F-15 Strike Eagle? I remember never being able to land on the carrier.

VXB77016
01-24-2010, 06:27 AM
Ah, someone else that destroyed trillions of dollars worth of carriers in Jet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I did it once, after months of trying, but could never do it again. Proof positive that if you get enough monkies with enough typewriters....

Yes, there was a huge difference between Jet and Microprose's brilliant series of flight sims. Whereas the Microprose series featured solid, 16+ color objects, Jet was monochrome (your choice of green or amber) un-filled wire frame objects rendered against a black sky with a solid green (or amber) block representing the ground. Some sea objects, like the dreaded carrier and the cruisers(?) I could never bomb were solid because they sat on a black sea, but the Mig-21s and -23s were simple wire frames.

It's amazing to think that Microprose's products were, at most, two generations removed from Jet--and that a generation was all of one year. Also of note: defeating copy protection involved a pair of fingernail clippers. Good times.

Uufflakke
01-24-2010, 07:45 AM
Can you imagine that in 20 years time when this question pops up again new forum members will say that SOW was their first flight sim back in 2011 or 2012.
And they will say similar things like they spent many hours gaming with friends instead of doing their homework, starting to mesmerize about their youth and that they can't imagine anymore that SOW was such a revolutionary game in those days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Erkki_M
01-24-2010, 07:57 AM
Jane's Apache Longbow 2

Then quickly Crimson Skies(though not really a sim) and Falcon 4 for a year, before IL-2.

Tried AHII, EAW and WW2OL too but they are in no way comparable to IL2, especially if one happens to have internet connection.

Don_X
01-24-2010, 08:48 AM
ZX spectrum
Psion Flight sim
F-15 Eagle

Atari ST
F-16

PC
Top Gun Fire at Will
FS2002
CFS
... and then hit the motherlode of IL2 and not looked back

BillSwagger
01-24-2010, 10:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uufflakke:
Can you imagine that in 20 years time when this question pops up again new forum members will say that SOW was their first flight sim back in 2011 or 2012.
And they will say similar things like they spent many hours gaming with friends instead of doing their homework, starting to mesmerize about their youth and that they can't imagine anymore that SOW was such a revolutionary game in those days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure beats throwing raisins in the toilet, and using my Peashooter. Something i did when i was three.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Bill

Skunk_438RCAF
01-24-2010, 11:48 AM
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1385/1246999178_9a8d680edf.jpg

mungee
01-24-2010, 11:50 AM
My first flight sim was Su-27 Flanker (circa 1996).
I remember picking up a joystick (Microsoft) and flight sim (Su-27) combo at a local computer shop.
And then .... did the "bug" bite!
I can still vividly remember running upstairs at about 6h00 one morning, waking my family up to tell them that I had just performed my first, accident-free, landing.
From there it was the Microsoft Combat Flight Simulators, European Air War etc.
Here's a link to Wikipedia that has some info on the Su-27 flight sim that I bought: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S..._Flanker_(video_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-27_Flanker_(video_game))

crucislancer
01-24-2010, 12:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mungee:
My first flight sim was Su-27 Flanker (circa 1996).
I remember picking up a joystick (Microsoft) and flight sim (Su-27) combo at a local computer shop.
And then .... did the "bug" bite!
I can still vividly remember running upstairs at about 6h00 one morning, waking my family up to tell them that I had just performed my first, accident-free, landing.
From there it was the Microsoft Combat Flight Simulators, European Air War etc.
Here's a link to Wikipedia that has some info on the Su-27 flight sim that I bought: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S..._Flanker_(video_game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-27_Flanker_(video_game)) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I used to have that game. I have Flanker 2.5 on my HD right now, I'll play it every now and then. That whole period from 1996 through 2001 had so many awesome flight sims, it was really a fantastic period for the genre.

thefruitbat
01-24-2010, 01:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1385/1246999178_9a8d680edf.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ha, that looks cool http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Used to love afterburner in the arcades, especially the one you could sit in and it moved, still wasn't as good as the original starwars arcade machine though, even though it was just wire frames!

This thread is like a long meandering trip down memory lane http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

GAU-8
01-29-2010, 07:10 PM
E.A.W. (European Air War)

first sim, and if i find copies on the shelf, I MUST by them!

Insuber
01-30-2010, 03:21 AM
In early 90's I played a lot a jet sim called Jetfighter, can't remember the developer, but it was great fun: carrier ops, amraams, sidewinders and all. It stayed in one single 1.2 floppy disc ... Does anyone remember it?

Bye,
Ins

VXB77016
01-30-2010, 04:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Insuber:
In early 90's I played a lot a jet sim called Jetfighter, can't remember the developer, but it was great fun: carrier ops, amraams, sidewinders and all. It stayed in one single 1.2 floppy disc ... Does anyone remember it?

Bye,
Ins </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think I remember that one. You were fighting a narco-terrorist war along the Southern California border right? F-16, -18, and -14, if I remember correctly.

That was an amazing game at the time. Not only did you have a free moving exterior camera to admire the (freaking amazing) F-14 wings actually swinging, but you had an increadibly detailed San Francisco to fly over--compete with Golden Gate and Bay Bridges, the Trans America Pyramid and Coit Tower. I loved that game, particually lifting off from SFO and bombing the Oakland Collesium.

ROXunreal
01-30-2010, 06:38 AM
My ONLY true flight sim is IL2, though I tried the trial version of Rise of Flight

Insuber
02-01-2010, 04:11 PM
Found it on Wiki; I believe it was Jetfighterseries by Velocity, released in 1988-1990. Great game! You can download it on the various abandonware sites, it's a tiny 800 kB ...

Ins



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Insuber:
In early 90's I played a lot a jet sim called Jetfighter, can't remember the developer, but it was great fun: carrier ops, amraams, sidewinders and all. It stayed in one single 1.2 floppy disc ... Does anyone remember it?

Bye,
Ins </div></BLOCKQUOTE>