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DIRTY-MAC
07-24-2006, 05:55 PM
Pretty nice videoclip with lots of goodies,
But I would like to know what that unusal looking radial engined plane is, it resembles
a yak 50 very much but it isnt


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1104373843095022320&q=ww2+gov

DIRTY-MAC
07-24-2006, 05:55 PM
Pretty nice videoclip with lots of goodies,
But I would like to know what that unusal looking radial engined plane is, it resembles
a yak 50 very much but it isnt


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1104373843095022320&q=ww2+gov

ElAurens
07-24-2006, 06:02 PM
A single seater Yak 50.

Jasko76
07-24-2006, 06:02 PM
It's probably a Sukhoi or something homemade.

EDIT - forget it... it's a Yak, a flimsy one but still...

DIRTY-MAC
07-24-2006, 06:19 PM
oops forgot to add the link http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
now corrected

DIRTY-MAC
07-24-2006, 07:04 PM
But look at the canopy its located much furter to the front than on the ordinary yak 50/53s
maybe a yak 52 thats modified into a one seater?

DHC2Pilot
07-24-2006, 11:38 PM
The Yak-50 didn't exist until 1972. The aircraft in the video shares many of the same lines that the Yak-52 has, however it first flew in 1976. So, it's neither of those aircraft. The mystery aircraft is a single seat taildragger - also, notice that there appears to be some sort of protrusion on the top of the cowling extending from the front of the nose bowl back to near the windscreen. Possibly an air intake?? I thought for a moment that it may be a prototype, however there are 3 of them in the video suggesting a production model. This would appear to be a video of some sort of training exercise for pilots as the aircraft do not appear to have any armament.

So, what are they? Definately Yakolev. Model - ?????? Nothing in my photo archives matches.

Waldo.Pepper
07-25-2006, 12:41 AM
If you can't tell already the footage in question is from a theatrical release - NOT wartime footage! (It is blended in with genuine wartime footage - notably the Il-2's) They are actors.

I had the movie at one time but tossed it out. I think it was made in the 1960's.

DIRTY-MAC
07-25-2006, 06:12 AM
I suspected that i was made later, but still,
if it was made in the 60s then the yak 50 wasnt made yet??? cant find anything on it too

ned7777
07-25-2006, 08:16 AM
they were a mix of planes in the air but the ones on the ground were some early war soviet fighter i can't remember the name it was in a book about the red airforce,

DIRTY-MAC
07-25-2006, 04:37 PM
its the plane that looks like a yak 50 im wondering about

http://www.france-voltige.org/Photos/Yak_50.jpg

Waldo.Pepper
07-25-2006, 07:42 PM
I believe you are on the realy right track here. Lose the spinner and you are there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Russian%20film%20mystery/rfm.jpg

BfHeFwMe
07-25-2006, 07:48 PM
It's a movie prop, suppose to be a Yak of some sort. Did you notice the radio controlled planes doing wild loops over the field. Can't remember what the movies name is anymore, but have a copy burned on disc. This clip is entirely cut from the movie and mangled with horrid resolution.

Every pilots face you see is an actor in the movie. Your seeing about all the worthwhile actual war bits, but much of its fake mixed in as well. On the full resolution you can see the planes are fake, no oleo struts on the gear, lawnmower motors, and no takeoff or landings filmed.

You should see what they used to simulate a captured 109, it was hilarious. Dragons painted all over the sides, a Storch could have kicked it's butt, two blade prop.

Beyond the propoganda it had U2 pilot chicks and the actor pilots could play and sing some mean polkas.

DHC2Pilot
07-25-2006, 10:18 PM
I love a good mystery!! I don't believe the aircraft in question are movie props. They appear VERY similar to the Yak-50/52, except that the cockpit is too far forward - the 52's cockpit is farther back due to the center of gravity. That cowling protrusion isn't something that would have been done for a movie prop (harder to fabricate). On another note the Yak-50/52 has a fairly thick airfoil which is common on aerobatic aircraft. This airplane seems to have a much thinner wing although it's hard to tell for sure from the footage. My best guess is that the footage is, as stated earlier, a jumbled bunch of film clips spanning several decades. The poor resolution and black and white were done purposely for effect. The planes are likely modified Yak-50/52's which have had the cockpit moved forward to make the planes more stable as trainers. With the the center of gravity moved forward they would be less likely to spin or enter maneuvers which could kill an unsuspecting pilot. Good catch on the radio controlled model footage though - I missed that one.

DIRTY-MAC
07-26-2006, 07:13 PM
bump

Sergio_101
07-27-2006, 03:04 AM
Yak-52s in a late, maybe 1960's to 1970's movie.
Note the mix of German, Soviet and American film.

Sergio