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dsheerin
12-18-2006, 06:13 PM
I just finished what is by far my best patrol; total tonnage of approximately 85k GRT, and 16 merchants sunk (including two small tankers). However I got them by staying in the approximately the same spot on the map. All i had to do was wait between 12 and 24 hours and another C2, or small merchant or tanker showed up.

here are some screenshots.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/main1.jpg

here is a zoom of that shot

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/zoom1.jpg

Another another
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/line1.jpg

I'm wondering, if there were a bunch of ships following that path, wouldn't it stand to reason that one of the first sunk would have sent a signal saying "Uboat around this spot"? And its not like they all sank in seconds. One C2 took 3 hours to sink (after eating 3 eels).
Or did stuff like this actually happen during the Battle of the Atlantic?

If it matters this all happened around January '41.

Also, I saw this on the map:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/milkcow.jpg

Does that mean there is a milkcow anchored just outside that port?

dsheerin
12-18-2006, 06:13 PM
I just finished what is by far my best patrol; total tonnage of approximately 85k GRT, and 16 merchants sunk (including two small tankers). However I got them by staying in the approximately the same spot on the map. All i had to do was wait between 12 and 24 hours and another C2, or small merchant or tanker showed up.

here are some screenshots.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/main1.jpg

here is a zoom of that shot

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/zoom1.jpg

Another another
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/line1.jpg

I'm wondering, if there were a bunch of ships following that path, wouldn't it stand to reason that one of the first sunk would have sent a signal saying "Uboat around this spot"? And its not like they all sank in seconds. One C2 took 3 hours to sink (after eating 3 eels).
Or did stuff like this actually happen during the Battle of the Atlantic?

If it matters this all happened around January '41.

Also, I saw this on the map:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/jonassalk/milkcow.jpg

Does that mean there is a milkcow anchored just outside that port?

Kaleun1961
12-18-2006, 06:36 PM
First, the easier one to answer. Yes, that appears to be a resupply ship. Your map is too small to see clearly, but it looks to me like a blue dot representing a German supply ship. Just approach it like your home base, then choose the "Dock at:X" option to end your patrol. In brief, you will be resupplied and sent on your way again, with a "null" patrol zone; patrol where you wish on your way back to your home port, or use SH3 Commander to assign yourself a patrol zone of your choice.

As for your string of sinkings, that is a flaw of the game, if you wish to call it that. Single ships are spawned by the game and follow programmed waypoints. It is a game mechanism, whereby they basically follow the same path as they are generated. You can sit along a lane like this and pick them off, but it would soon grow lame. In real life, if an attacked merchantman has the chance, it will relay a signal reporting its position and the U-boat. In real life it would be suicidal to remain too close as sooner or later a plane or ship may be sent to investigate, depending on how close to a base the attack occurred. If the Admiralty noticed a cluster of sinkings or U-boats spotted, it would advise all convoys and lone vessels at sea to avoid the area and just may despatch a hunter killer group to the area.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a299/K-61/Miscellaneous/K61-cropped.jpg

dsheerin
12-18-2006, 06:45 PM
It would make sense that they would warn off other ships.

It also surprised me that I wasn't harassed by a single warship, even though I spent around a week or so just picking off ships. There were many times where in other areas and patrols where if I sank a ship using my deck gun it was normal to see or just hear an approaching destroyer or corvette a couple of hours later, or planes depending where I was.

In this case I was about 1100 km off the coast of France well beyond Allied air coverage (1941 Jan).

Nice little flaw.

However, if I had netted 100K+ of tonnage, would it have counted? Since I was exploiting a game flaw?

RangerX3X
12-18-2006, 07:47 PM
AF 78 is another graveyard. In grid AF-78 there is a general spot where single merchants pass through repeatedly (C2, C3, coastal and small merchants). This grid can be patrolled with no air coverage or escort threat (at least through May 1940). Patrol an area above the land mass but below the "AF 78" marker on the map. Once you begin to accumulate the kills, you will see the general spot. Perfectly safe to traverse on the top at night to recharge batteries and submerged during the daytime (both at ahead slow) to obtain valuable sonar contacts. Note that there is always one or two tug boats that you will pick up on sonar further south closer to the land mass. These are always there and you should not waste your time dealing with them. There will also be a routine warship sonar contact to the northeast of this area that can also be ignored. Most traffic comes west to east, but some cargo ships do come from the southeast to the northwest.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://alliedwarmachine.us/portal/index.php

Busbie
12-19-2006, 04:27 AM
The Icelandic harbor (you know, the one with the impossible name http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif) is also a great hunting ground in vanilla SHIII. At worst I have been attacked by a Hunt 1 destroyer on my way in and aircraft when I drifted to far away to reload my externals. For the minimal effort to get in you will find a lovely Small Tanker, a Small Merchant, and a Coastal Merchant for your sinking pleasure. Finish those off, and if you still have the torpedoes, head out into the bay a bit more and you will run into cargo ships ranging from single small merchants to double Victory cargo groups.