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DrHerb
01-06-2008, 10:25 AM
Rata and Chaika footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQsxfNK-h4)

Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

DrHerb
01-06-2008, 10:25 AM
Rata and Chaika footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQsxfNK-h4)

Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

F0_Dark_P
01-06-2008, 10:33 AM
sweet thanx http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LEBillfish
01-06-2008, 10:43 AM
Nice....No matter what's your fav, you still have to love these two http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

FPSOLKOR
01-06-2008, 11:28 AM
I-15Bis in it's natural habitat - forts of Kronshtadt...
http://www.vzletim.ru/index.php?uid=std_get&uid_obj=fil...skiphtml_f=1&popup=1 (http://www.vzletim.ru/index.php?uid=std_get&uid_obj=file_75724507d9c0e7b8167c73d950a55290&skiphtml_f=1&popup=1)

Rammjaeger
01-06-2008, 01:41 PM
Another link:
http://www.brushfirewars.org/aircraft/polikarpov_i-16/polikarpov_i-16_1.htm

"The I-153 and the I-16 were Russia's Spitfire and Hurricane." - Seems like some people have a funny way of explaining historical facts in a few words so that an American audience can understand. The statement isn't that far away from the truth indeed in terms of the importance of these types in the early part of the war, although it kind of conveys the message that one type is superior to the other but both are über nevertheless.

Jagdgeschwader2
01-06-2008, 01:54 PM
Nice! Thanx for sharing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

You can hear them in this video after the Lancatster finishes. What a nice sound they make. Also check out the insane climb out of the Bearcat at 06:14 of this same video. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYUmSozXLU&feature=related

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

han freak solo
01-06-2008, 08:01 PM
Good stuff, y'all!

han freak solo
01-06-2008, 08:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rammjaeger:
"The I-153 and the I-16 were Russia's Spitfire and Hurricane." - Seems like some people have a funny way of explaining historical facts in a few words so that an American audience can understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking more towards a British audience than American. But that's just me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-06-2008, 08:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by han freak solo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rammjaeger:
"The I-153 and the I-16 were Russia's Spitfire and Hurricane." - Seems like some people have a funny way of explaining historical facts in a few words so that an American audience can understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was thinking more towards a British audience than American. But that's just me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes. These are British guys talking (well one Aussielander).

Comparing these russian aircraft to the Spit and hurricane is a good analogy to help the British (and other attacked European nations) understand what these aircraft meant to the Russians. As the British fought against a great foe with 2 workhorse aircraft that held the fort, so too did the I16 and chaika do a lot of the same. Of course it`s a tad more complex than that (Soviet russia isn`t 1940`s Britian), but it`s a good comparison nontheless.

It`s British talk and comparison, but I can`t see why Americans can`t empathise.

Wonderful to see the I16 working again... IL2 I16s sound nothing like the real thing, though... why, Oleg? If my I16 could sound like that i`d fly it so much more!

Interesting, reading between the lines it sounds like the refurbished I16s were made `easier` to fly than the originals.

Mercanario
01-07-2008, 12:37 AM
m not sure how much effect the I-16 or the I-53 had on stemming the German onslaught, since the vast majority where destroyed on the ground in the early days of Barbarossa.

The early days of the Spanish Civl War where another matter though, where before the widespread deployment of the Condor Legion the Polikarpovs owned the skies.

han freak solo
01-07-2008, 07:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
It`s British talk and comparison, but I can`t see why Americans can`t empathise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was just messing around with Rammjaeger since he seemed to forget about the British. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Rammjaeger
01-07-2008, 07:55 AM
Agreed, I stand corrected.

The I-153 should rather be compared to the Gloster Gladiator IMO, but then again, that isn't a type as well-known as the Hurricane.

Brutom
01-07-2008, 10:46 AM
Good Stuff there...Thanks a lot!

Saunders1953
01-07-2008, 11:58 AM
Thanks DrHerb and FPSOLKOR. Good stuff!

FPSOLKOR
01-07-2008, 12:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mercanario:
m not sure how much effect the I-16 or the I-53 had on stemming the German onslaught, since the vast majority where destroyed on the ground in the early days of Barbarossa.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Last I-16 were phased out from western combat units as late as summer 1944. On the Far East they were in active duty during war with Japan, that is as late as August 1945. That shows that by far not all I-16's were destroyed on the ground... Atually, heaviest losses were inflicted on regiments equiped with modern types of airplanes. I-153 were phased out of all VVS RKKA by summer 1943. Both of these types were the main workhorses untill the end of 1942 - the most difficult time for VVS.

FPSOLKOR
01-07-2008, 12:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Wonderful to see the I16 working again... IL2 I16s sound nothing like the real thing, though... why, Oleg?
Interesting, reading between the lines it sounds like the refurbished I16s were made `easier` to fly than the originals. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
One of the reasons for different engine sound is the fact that these planes are powered by wrong engines, and the propellers are also wrong. They used to be 4-blade props, and 2 blades were removed. They simply couldn't find real M-22, -25, -62 or -63 engine and matching propeller.
About your second statement - yes. I-16 was considered to be an extremely strict, unforgiving and dangerous airplane ever to be included in VVS inventory.