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ytareh
12-28-2009, 06:10 PM
I visited the North East Air Museum near Nissan Sunderland/Washington (UK) today.Nice place to visit.They had the tail section of a crashed He111 and I was amazed to see distinct one inch/2-3cm gaps between the rear tailplanes and rudder and the fuselage/body of the plane.(Just two big 'bolts' were holding them 'on')Surely this cant be 'right'?!All those countless gaps filled in by plane plastic modellers?Any one know?

ytareh
12-28-2009, 06:10 PM
I visited the North East Air Museum near Nissan Sunderland/Washington (UK) today.Nice place to visit.They had the tail section of a crashed He111 and I was amazed to see distinct one inch/2-3cm gaps between the rear tailplanes and rudder and the fuselage/body of the plane.(Just two big 'bolts' were holding them 'on')Surely this cant be 'right'?!All those countless gaps filled in by plane plastic modellers?Any one know?

AndyJWest
12-28-2009, 07:05 PM
It is probably the result of the damage, or just not reassembled properly. A gap like that would cause huge amounts of drag, and reduce tail surface efficiency too. Wher gaps are unavoidable (e.g. the all-moving tailplane on a Bf-109) they wil be kept as small as practicable, and I'd hope they could do better than an inch clearance...

Waldo.Pepper
12-28-2009, 08:07 PM
Ytareh, can you post a picture so that a comparison may be made?

jarink
12-28-2009, 08:43 PM
I found a picture on Flickr, but it wasn't all that great of an angle. From the looks of that picture, though, the tail seems to be missing the fillet that smooths the joint between the tail and the fuselage.

Kettenhunde
12-28-2009, 09:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2people...es/40/a3998640.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/40/a3998640.shtml)

ytareh
12-29-2009, 02:02 AM
Well found kette ...yeah thats what I was talking about ...quite a shock to me !

VVS-Manuc
12-29-2009, 05:34 AM
There is a strip of metal missing which covers the gap. Maybe it's gone lost in the crash?

Here are some pictures of the He 111 tailfin, how it should be

http://www.michael-reimer.com/...-Dateien/he111-2.jpg (http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_LG1-Dateien/he111-2.jpg)

http://oberkampf.muddeln.free....n%20losses/he111.jpg (http://oberkampf.muddeln.free.fr/images/German%20losses/he111.jpg)

http://www.letletlet-warplanes...008/11/he111_2_s.jpg (http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/he111_2_s.jpg)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...g_Heinkel_He_111.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-317-0002-24,_Flugzeug_Heinkel_He_111.jpg)

VVS-Manuc
12-29-2009, 05:35 AM
deleted, double posting

Kettenhunde
12-29-2009, 06:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">There is a strip of metal missing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


It is called a fairing and it is missing in the both the museum and picture.

We do static display restorations for other museums and find this kind of stuff often.