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Hideru
10-04-2009, 01:27 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/darzolo/AssassinsCreedLogo.png

Pretty cool logo. Anyone know how it came to be?
Looks like some kind of measuring instrument.

Hideru
10-04-2009, 01:27 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/darzolo/AssassinsCreedLogo.png

Pretty cool logo. Anyone know how it came to be?
Looks like some kind of measuring instrument.

caswallawn_2k7
10-04-2009, 01:28 PM
http://static.www.odcdn.com/pictures/us/od/sk/lg/427111_sk_lg.jpg

thekyle0
10-04-2009, 01:37 PM
It's also been compared to a popular Free Mason's symbol.
http://www.vtfreemasons.org/images/familycraft.gif

sm312
10-04-2009, 01:42 PM
Isn't like the top an eagle and the bottom strip the victim?

Slartibartfast7
10-04-2009, 03:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
http://static.www.odcdn.com/pictures/us/od/sk/lg/427111_sk_lg.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you keep that picture around just for forums like these?

caswallawn_2k7
10-04-2009, 04:11 PM
why would I keep an image handy when a 20 second look at a google image search can get you it?

SBRedFlag
10-04-2009, 07:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
http://static.www.odcdn.com/pictures/us/od/sk/lg/427111_sk_lg.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Darn, beat me to the punch...

obliviondoll
10-04-2009, 09:31 PM
I was hoping it would be here already.

Aren't these threads banned from overuse yet?

P.S. I don't know about anyone else, but I DO keep a staple remover pic bookmarked just in case...

FROGGEman2
10-05-2009, 03:10 AM
Yes, the Freemasons symbol is the most popular theory right now... but it could be a stylized Alpha. But, the Freemasons Stapler Remover is the most common one.

Tobnir87
10-11-2009, 06:55 AM
How about a hidden blade?

NuclearFuss
10-11-2009, 07:01 AM
Maybe someone was just doodling.

Dec.2012
10-11-2009, 07:08 AM
I thought it was just a fancy letter "A"... but I like the free masons idea better.

Raekull
10-11-2009, 08:06 AM
So it isnt just an assassins hood?

guipit
10-11-2009, 09:28 AM
when I last logged in to the main assassins creed website a bunch of circles and measurement and stuff appeared and formed the assassin logo and the tip was kind of uneven

PlagueDoctor357
10-11-2009, 09:29 AM
Kind of off topic. Any Canadians here watch MTV live 2 with Daryn Jones? I don't think I spelled his name right, haha.

Anyway, if you look at the wall behind them there is a freemason sign, it's painted over or something im not sure like they tried to hide it.

Charlie_Romeo
10-11-2009, 09:34 AM
idk where it cam from but if you turn the image upside down it looks like an alien wearing headphones http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

joshua200830
10-11-2009, 02:42 PM
it is actually a brilliant way too write assassins creed with the A on top and the C underneath i thought u guys would have figured that out already lol

thekyle0
10-11-2009, 02:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joshua200830:
it is actually a brilliant way too write assassins creed with the A on top and the C underneath i thought u guys would have figured that out already lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I don't see it. But upside down alien wearing headphones, I think that might be steering us in the direction of AC3's conclusion. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

joshua200830
10-11-2009, 02:50 PM
thats is too funny kyle rofl http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Architect33
09-02-2011, 04:31 PM
Just to tickle the minds of fellow players, I think the meaning of the AC logo is a representation of the moment of "the kill" The costumes all flaunt designs of the proud avian species.
Reminiscent of the eagle's talons, the logo represents the acute moment in time when a hunter has its prey under its control and its life and it is truly the beholder of the words "requiescat in pace"

LightRey
09-02-2011, 04:57 PM
Well, kind of a necropost there, but, since this gives me the chance, I think it looks a little like the anarchy symbol.

CRUDFACE
09-02-2011, 05:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Well, kind of a necropost there, but, since this gives me the chance, I think it looks a little like the anarchy symbol. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What does that one look like?

LightRey
09-02-2011, 06:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Well, kind of a necropost there, but, since this gives me the chance, I think it looks a little like the anarchy symbol. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What does that one look like? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These 2 are the most common forms:

http://5thofjulysoli.noblogs.org/files/2011/07/256px-Anarchy-symbol.svg_.png

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/223744-anarchy.jpg

also not unlike V's symbol from "V for Vendetta", which is based on the Anarchy symbol:

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/208000/208586_1242070018236_240_260.jpg

CRUDFACE
09-02-2011, 06:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
Well, kind of a necropost there, but, since this gives me the chance, I think it looks a little like the anarchy symbol. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What does that one look like? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These 2 are the most common forms:

http://5thofjulysoli.noblogs.org/files/2011/07/256px-Anarchy-symbol.svg_.png

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/223744-anarchy.jpg

also not unlike V's symbol from "V for Vendetta", which is based on the Anarchy symbol:

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/quiz/208000/208586_1242070018236_240_260.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, I only had a vague idea about it. The second one looks the best to me, but the simple A is cool to.

But would the symbol, always being symmetrical since the creation of the Italian to Roman guild one stand for a balance of order and chaos? You can always split them down the middle I believe.

I mean, I can't speak for Minerva, but I think Twenty Glyphs pointed out at one time that Juno's belt held the same logo on her belt.

Jexx21
09-02-2011, 06:24 PM
I like the theory that there were two groups of TWCB who were against each other, and that they each had leaders.

For example, there could be the 'good' group who wanted free will for the humans, and they were the gods of Roman and Greek myths and their leader was God for Monothiestic religions. And the other group could of been the Titans and/or the 'evil' gods, and their leader would of been the Devil.

Er...
Sorry, that idea was mostly mentioned because of the mention of Juno having the Assassin symbol on her belt.

LightRey
09-02-2011, 06:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
Thanks, I only had a vague idea about it. The second one looks the best to me, but the simple A is cool to.

But would the symbol, always being symmetrical since the creation of the Italian to Roman guild one stand for a balance of order and chaos? You can always split them down the middle I believe.

I mean, I can't speak for Minerva, but I think Twenty Glyphs pointed out at one time that Juno's belt held the same logo on her belt. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting. She does indeed seem to have the Assassin's symbol on her belt, though it looks more like the symbol could be "placed" there if you will, rather than that it's actually on her belt. It kinda looks like it's the socket for placing something with the shape of the Assassin symbol there.

The balance between order and chaos is an interesting take. I also can't help but be reminded of the fact that the symbol for anarchy stands for "Anarchy is order" with the 'A' standing for anarchy and the O (the circle around the 'A') standing for order.

CRUDFACE
09-02-2011, 06:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
Thanks, I only had a vague idea about it. The second one looks the best to me, but the simple A is cool to.

But would the symbol, always being symmetrical since the creation of the Italian to Roman guild one stand for a balance of order and chaos? You can always split them down the middle I believe.

I mean, I can't speak for Minerva, but I think Twenty Glyphs pointed out at one time that Juno's belt held the same logo on her belt. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Interesting. She does indeed seem to have the Assassin's symbol on her belt, though it looks more like the symbol could be "placed" there if you will, rather than that it's actually on her belt. It kinda looks like it's the socket for placing something with the shape of the Assassin symbol there.

The balance between order and chaos is an interesting take. I also can't help but be reminded of the fact that the symbol for anarchy stands for "Anarchy is order" with the 'A' standing for anarchy and the O (the circle around the 'A') standing for order. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Holy...it does look like a socket. I'm not sure if it is intentional, but it really can stand in for one. Maybe a POE fits there? In the Encyclopedia there's going to be a section just on logos.

the problem, not with you, but with the "O" is that, well, most assassin symbols lack the "O". then again, I've always gone with the Templar side of things at times. I'm stretching the AT TIMES to lol.

jmk1999
09-02-2011, 11:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
http://static.www.odcdn.com/pictures/us/od/sk/lg/427111_sk_lg.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
gonna have to go with this. it seems the most obvious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Sun.Tzu.GE
09-04-2011, 04:15 PM
It's clearly inspired by the freemasons symbol

Silvrslide
09-04-2011, 04:31 PM
I don't see how.

naran6142
09-04-2011, 04:43 PM
its probably just a doodle http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LightRey
09-05-2011, 01:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sun.Tzu.GE:
It's clearly inspired by the freemasons symbol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Though I can see the resemblance, the 2 are just too different for one to be a clear inspiration to the other.

Ulicies
09-05-2011, 02:45 PM
You know, I'll bet that Ubisoft is enjoying the fact that they can just make a simple logo and that the fans will create all of this artificial meaning behind it.

LightRey
09-05-2011, 02:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ulicies:
You know, I'll bet that Ubisoft is enjoying the fact that they can just make a simple logo and that the fans will create all of this artificial meaning behind it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol, probably. People have a tendency to see patterns where none exist. It's quite amusing what crazy things people come up with at times.

Ulicies
09-05-2011, 02:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ulicies:
You know, I'll bet that Ubisoft is enjoying the fact that they can just make a simple logo and that the fans will create all of this artificial meaning behind it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol, probably. People have a tendency to see patterns where none exist. It's quite amusing what crazy things people come up with at times. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Many times there are parallelisms, like possibly basing the logo off of the Mason's symbol, for example. But more times than not, everything else is embellished by the fan base.

Matz133
09-04-2015, 03:32 PM
or...
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/d46d13edc8093f1ba4e01c77df1d234ee691c7802901686a33 746b47c88d13e3_1.jpg

HDinHB
09-04-2015, 03:45 PM
Thanks, I thought I was the only one.

Welcome to the forums!

VestigialLlama4
09-04-2015, 08:04 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f206/darzolo/AssassinsCreedLogo.png

Pretty cool logo. Anyone know how it came to be?
Looks like some kind of measuring instrument.

Its just a stylized letter A. The triangular shape however is what makes it heraldic of the Assassins. The designers generally associate Assassins with Triangles and Templars with Squares. Templars represent order and stability so the square fits, whereas Assassins are associated with flight, movement and elegance, which fits the triangle, its also the general pose of the human body arms and legs sloping below waist. That's why the cover art of the games generally has the Assassins posing in the letter A form.

AnExplodingDodo
09-04-2015, 09:45 PM
It has struck me as odd that the logo of the assassins and others are so alike.

The Templar logo is the cross, very reminiscent of St George's cross, even as far as the Nazi 'iron cross' (imagine the nazis as Templars running a totalitarian society)

Now then. The assassins logo bears some resemblance to the Freemasons logo as as been discussed:

What makes this so weird? It's what the freemasons are.

"The Knights Templar is an international philanthropic chivalric order affiliated with Freemasonry. Unlike the initial degrees conferred in a Masonic Lodge, which only require a belief in a Supreme Being regardless of religious affiliation, the Knights Templar is one of several additional Masonic Orders in which membership is open only to Freemasons who profess a belief in the Christian religion."

(In Syndicate, ****ens' son was a known member of the Freemasons. We might see the freemasons mentioned at last. Would ****ens, who died in 1870, be killed because he was working with the assassins and his son was a mason/templar? That would be rather interesting would it not.)

I guess the point im making is the root or origins of the logos are somewhat similar, as though they have been done on purpose. It is as though the masonic emblem, which came about after the assassins logo in the game universe is trying to mimic or assimilate with the assassins. The Templars are a branch of the masons, so the masonic morals may not necessarily align with that of the Templars. It might be nothing, I just thought it was interesting and worth of mention or debate?

HDinHB
09-04-2015, 10:21 PM
Interestingly, the Templar cross originated in the Second Crusade (~1145) and the red cross on a white background that later became the St. George's cross associated with England, was originally used by French troops in the Third Crusade.

The Masonic Knights Templar was formed in the 1700s, and is not the same as the Knights Templar that fought in the Crusades, or that appear in the AC games. Some believe the Masons are an offshoot of those Templars, but " no one Masonic organization claims a direct heritage to the medieval Knights Templar, certain degrees and orders are obviously patterned after the medieval Order."

Regardless, I don't think the Masons and Templars are the same in the AC universe, for legal reasons.

strigoi1958
09-05-2015, 12:54 PM
I think there is a indirect link to freemasons whether deliberate or accidental... there's always been theories that the Masons formed the secret society to hide the KT as the Masons appeared shortly after the knights templar dispersed/ disappeared (there are some interesting books about the end of the KT in England) ... and the masonic rituals have KT links....

The founding fathers are often said to have contained masons... then there's the theories about the masonic links on US banknotes as proof the masons were instrumental in USA independence (which makes AC3 more interesting to me)

and of course... (someone in this thread may have already pointed this out) the assassin logo does bear a similarity to the masonic compass and square) ;)

Down with King Phillip IV ;)

Sorrosyss
09-05-2015, 03:06 PM
I just hope the movie doesn't start amending the iconic images of the series. This, and the Abstergo logo are too iconic to mess with.

D.I.D.
09-06-2015, 03:18 AM
http://41.media.tumblr.com/6396b22bb98f2c78c3f0c064ce52d967/tumblr_nu5xuyW0a91qh66wqo1_1280.jpg

BananaBlighter
09-06-2015, 11:53 AM
I just hope the movie doesn't start amending the iconic images of the series. This, and the Abstergo logo are too iconic to mess with.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. Aguilar seems to have the assassin logo on his hood.

strigoi1958
09-07-2015, 01:53 PM
From the outset... I always saw a simiilarity to the masonic compass

http://www.masonsmart.com/image-files/cmpsqr.jpg

Shahkulu101
09-07-2015, 02:03 PM
Why is this even a debate?

It's just the letter 'A' amalgamated with the shape of a hood. There's no mystery, hidden meaning...

ACZanius
09-07-2015, 03:19 PM
Uu le conspiracy, the plot thickens!

Twinfryes
12-11-2016, 10:45 PM
In meta, it's clearly a stylized A. In universe, I initially thought it was a flame (the insignia looks a lot like a flame on the first game's mini-map), but now I like the idea of the Emblem being based on the skull of an eagle:
https://hugelolcdn.com/i/365296.jpg
(EDIT: That's actually an Owl Skull, but some Eagle Skulls can also work:
http://www.skullsite.com/completelist/speciesinfo.cfm?spec=106
http://www.skullsite.com/completelist/speciesinfo.cfm?spec=1200
)

That being said, considering it's similarity to the letter A, It's also plausible that the Emblem could've been based on an Alpha symbol. Perhaps ancient Assassins noted similarity between the emblem and the Alpha symbol, and combined them together into a more geometric version.