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kwaichain888
02-08-2004, 05:07 PM
I am new to Flight Sims, and IL2SFB is the second sim I've bought. It is the best PC game I've ever bought. Any suggestions from you on how to improve skills steadily on this game? I mean other than the tips in the manual?

kwaichain888
02-08-2004, 05:07 PM
I am new to Flight Sims, and IL2SFB is the second sim I've bought. It is the best PC game I've ever bought. Any suggestions from you on how to improve skills steadily on this game? I mean other than the tips in the manual?

xenomage2000
02-08-2004, 05:17 PM
The only way to get really good is to fly online against others. You may practice and get good flying offline but that wont prepare you for the real deal because the AI is fairly crude and unrealistic for the most part.
You can easily get to the point where you are waxing veteran AI offline but the second you go up against a real person its a whole different ballgame...

F19_Olli72
02-08-2004, 05:22 PM
Hi & welcome kwaichain888

Just a few tips i can think of:

Get familiar with the aircrafts, (obviously) learn each planes strength and weaknesses by flying them.

Learn offensive and defensive manouvers, barrelrolls, immelmanns, high yo-yos and that sorta stuff.

Record tracks, and watch them to see what you did right or wrong.

Find some ppl to fly with, either just a wingman or a squad. Youll pick up stuff quite fast. The bonus its more fun that way too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Might sound as very general tips, but you asked a very general question http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Good luck

Wilie_Wombat
02-08-2004, 06:26 PM
kwaichain888,

Yes, practice, practice, practice and while you are doing that join a fun squadron, one that will help you along during the good times and the bad.

WW

Old_Canuck
02-08-2004, 06:33 PM
Hi and Welcome Kwaichain888,

Further to the good advice above, be sure to check the Sturmovik Essentials link at the top of the forum page. You'll find some very helpful links to more resources there.

You have to be persistent to become competent in this game. Be patient and like the man says "practice practice practice." http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OC

"You don't stop playing because you grow old, you grow old because you stop playing."

Bearcat99
02-08-2004, 06:51 PM
Practice...try to stay away from dumbed down flight models.. icons,unlimmited ammo open pit is OK... especially in the beginning. Let F3 become your friend. Use it to monitor the flight characteristics of whatever you are flying. Come here often. Get online. Practice practice practice...and most importantly...keep it fun. Dont expect to become an online ace or even an offline ace overnight.

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Zen--
02-08-2004, 08:47 PM
Welcome!

This is without doubt the hardest ww2 sim out there, it takes time to learn how to take off, land and even make a decent level turn. As everyone has advised, practice and have patience. Once you get past the difficult stage of constant stalling and get a better feel for the FM's, the game really begins to open up and you will appreciate the more subtle aspects of the game.

Not sure what your preferences on nationality are, but the VVS are typically a bit more forgiving to learn on and (for me anyway) the Luftwaffe planes are more satisfying to master.

A good plane to start with is the La7 but I don't recommend flying that exclusively, there are quite a number of entertaining/challenging/interesting other planes to fly...don't limit yourself to just one in the beginning, try them all. Ultimately you will probably find something like that you prefer over the others and if so, fly it and master it. There is no feeling quite like knowing your plane of choice backwards and forwards...it fits like a glove and the enjoyment level is very very high.


Good luck and enjoy the game, and don't feel shy about coming back to ask questions, thats what the community is for.


(small tip, in many german planes the gunsight is offset, press Shift+F1 to center the reticle)


S!!

-Zen-
Formerly TX-Zen

kwaichain888
02-09-2004, 11:45 PM
thanks everyone for your advice. I'll certainly pay attention to these comments and put them into practice in the coming months. I've tried connecting to LAN, but it keeps telling me that I don't have Dogfight installed or 1.22 patch. I've downloaded the 1.22 patch, but I don't see Dogfight anywhere to download.

Huxley_S
02-10-2004, 05:16 AM
Before you rush into online play I'd spend a bit of time learning the basics first.

First you need to find an aircraft you like. Everyone has their favourite but I like the LaGG-IT from the Soviet side. It is a tough cookie that's difficult to stall, can land on rough terrain, is quite well armoured and looks cool too.

Then you will want to spend a bit of time learning how to take-off and land. No point playing online until you can do this repeatedly without crashing.

Then you'll need to learn how to shoot. The best way to do this is like the manual says. Set up some non-hostile bomber targets in Quick Mission builder and try to shoot them down. Then change them to hostile and have them shoot back at you.

Then move on to fighters. Start going one on one against various fighters. Start with low AI settings and work up each time you get a kill. Then try adding more fighters.

Once you've managed to shoot down some AI opponenets you are ready to go online. Almost everyone online is pretty good and you will get shot down a lot and probably won't even manage to shoot down one enemy plane at all for a good few hours or days. Don't worry - you will learn how to do it with practice.

Then the fun really begins!

I still remember my first online kill... I had been shot down by this one guy like 20 times already and then I was just flying along and he came zooming across my path from my 3 o'clock chasing a team-mate. I fired my cannons at just the right moment and he exploded into tiny pieces right infront of me... I flew right through the explosion and hit the F3 key to watch myself soaring through the flaming wreckage.

A couple of "gk" (good kill) messages appeared on the screen. It was a fluke. But from that moment I was totally hooked!

Bearcat99
02-10-2004, 05:37 AM
Look for the Sturmovik Essentials thread at the top of this post or look in my sig and dl Hyperlobby...that is where most of the guys fly. Also check out Tailspin's site...it is stuffed with sim tips........also you might want to get a comm program... between RW,Ventrillo and Teamspeak you should be good to go.

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Bull-Dog.
02-10-2004, 06:26 AM
As everyone is saying "PRACTICE". but above all don`t expect to become good overnight and don`t be put off when you are constantly blown out of the sky when you fly on line.
When you get your first on line kill you will will feel great.

the best place to learn is right here in this forum. I`ve been loging on daily for almost 2 years and have been learning from the best.

Still trying http://mysite.freeserve.com/bull_dog/images/1-picture1.jpg?0.9261296277898643 Still dying

SpinSpinSugar
02-10-2004, 06:37 AM
Welcome!

I'd say definitely practice offline, and in online dogfight servers for fun, until you're happy you can fly.

As Bearcat99 says, get Hyperlobby (http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz/) installed to join in online. Most of the onliners on these boards fly there.

Then, if interaction is your thing, join a squadron that welcomes beginners (there are plenty) and suits your needs to learn how to fight effectively.

If you'd rather stick to dogfight stuff, there are often people willing to give tips and advice around. There are a lot of very friendly, very knowledgeable people out there and this is a great community.

Hope you find what you're after!

Cheers, SSS

SeaFireLIV
02-10-2004, 06:44 AM
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kwaichain007
02-22-2004, 01:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SpinSpinSugar:
Welcome!

I'd say definitely practice offline, and in online dogfight servers for fun, until you're happy you can fly.

As Bearcat99 says, get http://hyperfighter.jinak.cz/ installed to join in online. Most of the onliners on these boards fly there.

Then, if interaction is your thing, join a squadron that welcomes beginners (there are plenty) and suits your needs to learn how to fight effectively.

If you'd rather stick to dogfight stuff, there are often people willing to give tips and advice around. There are a lot of very friendly, very knowledgeable people out there and this is a great community.

Hope you find what you're after!

Cheers, SSS<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just went to the HL, don't know what it is all about but I guess I've got some new reading to do!

Flamin_Squirrel
02-23-2004, 07:59 AM
Hyperlobby is a program that lets you chat with other flyers, and join games automaticaly that are already running.

Btw, whats the url for tailspins site?