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staticline1
02-22-2007, 02:57 PM
Kind of curious about something regarding the Korean war and some of the a/c the US used or didn't use. I understand that the P-51 was used in most regards as a ground attack aircraft since there was not enough P-47's to do the job or something to that degree. Fine, its probably not the first aircraft I would pick to do the job but it can it if need be, but is there any reason that the P-38 was not choosen for the job different than the reason the P-47 was not there? It was a superior ground pounder and in the hands of a good pilot and down low it would be a more formidable opponent than the Mustang. Was is just the lack of a/c or something else?

staticline1
02-22-2007, 02:57 PM
Kind of curious about something regarding the Korean war and some of the a/c the US used or didn't use. I understand that the P-51 was used in most regards as a ground attack aircraft since there was not enough P-47's to do the job or something to that degree. Fine, its probably not the first aircraft I would pick to do the job but it can it if need be, but is there any reason that the P-38 was not choosen for the job different than the reason the P-47 was not there? It was a superior ground pounder and in the hands of a good pilot and down low it would be a more formidable opponent than the Mustang. Was is just the lack of a/c or something else?

BSS_CUDA
02-22-2007, 03:01 PM
COST.
they had the F4U that was also an excellent Jabo aircraft and was half the cost of the 38, plus it would also aoperate from carriers. and most all 38's were scrapped immediatelly after WW2

Daiichidoku
02-22-2007, 03:02 PM
p 51 was chosen as standard prop day figher after wwii, largely for economic reasons, making it the only real single-seat usaf choice by the time korea hotted-up

otherwise, yes, either the 47 or 38 would have been FAR more suitable for ground-attack

navy/marines had the capable corsairs and skyraiders for the job

Waldo.Pepper
02-22-2007, 03:13 PM
Even though they had two engines, they were inlines.

berg417448
02-22-2007, 04:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by staticline1:
Kind of curious about something regarding the Korean war and some of the a/c the US used or didn't use. I understand that the P-51 was used in most regards as a ground attack aircraft since there was not enough P-47's to do the job or something to that degree. Fine, its probably not the first aircraft I would pick to do the job but it can it if need be, but is there any reason that the P-38 was not choosen for the job different than the reason the P-47 was not there? It was a superior ground pounder and in the hands of a good pilot and down low it would be a more formidable opponent than the Mustang. Was is just the lack of a/c or something else? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

IIRC the last P-38 left USAF service in 1949 so none would have been available for Korea.

Fork-N-spoon
02-22-2007, 11:52 PM
I believe that well over 100 P-38Ls were serving in Korea. Only months before hostilities in Korea broke out, the P-38Ls were shoved off a cliff, flattened by bulldozers, and then buried.

staticline1
02-24-2007, 08:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I believe that well over 100 P-38Ls were serving in Korea. Only months before hostilities in Korea broke out, the P-38Ls were shoved off a cliff, flattened by bulldozers, and then buried. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The person responsible for that decision should be dragged to the street and beaten senseless, what a waste of good warbirds! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif Thanks for the replys, kind of wondered why.

BSS_CUDA
02-24-2007, 08:22 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/CUDA97045/p38-39.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

AKA_TAGERT
02-24-2007, 08:42 AM
It is a GD shame!

But I do seem to recall that some of the National Guard units in the US had 38s past the 1949 date and that they were called into duty in KOREA.

BSS_CUDA
02-24-2007, 08:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I believe that well over 100 P-38Ls were serving in Korea. Only months before hostilities in Korea broke out, the P-38Ls were shoved off a cliff, flattened by bulldozers, and then buried. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
sounds like the next Glacier Girl expedition to me. WHO'S WITH ME http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

AKA_TAGERT
02-24-2007, 08:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I believe that well over 100 P-38Ls were serving in Korea. Only months before hostilities in Korea broke out, the P-38Ls were shoved off a cliff, flattened by bulldozers, and then buried. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
sounds like the next Glacier Girl expedition to me. WHO'S WITH ME http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Sad part is there is probally a KIA factory on that sight now! &lt;G&gt;

Daiichidoku
02-24-2007, 10:19 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

staticline1
02-24-2007, 05:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I believe that well over 100 P-38Ls were serving in Korea. Only months before hostilities in Korea broke out, the P-38Ls were shoved off a cliff, flattened by bulldozers, and then buried. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
sounds like the next Glacier Girl expedition to me. WHO'S WITH ME http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Count me in, there should be enough P-38's to go around for everyone! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AVG_WarHawk
02-24-2007, 06:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I believe that well over 100 P-38Ls were serving in Korea. Only months before hostilities in Korea broke out, the P-38Ls were shoved off a cliff, flattened by bulldozers, and then buried. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OMG! The *@#!*+ bastage the made that decision should have had his offspring sterilized http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Charos
02-24-2007, 06:55 PM
Actually there were Thousands of P-38's deployed in the Korean war.

P-38's in Korea (http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml)

AVG_WarHawk
02-24-2007, 07:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Charos:
Actually there were Thousands of P-38's deployed in the Korean war.

P-38's in Korea (http://www.georgia-outfitters.com/page52.shtml) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably made from the flyable ones http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

JR_Greenhorn
02-24-2007, 11:12 PM
I seem to remember reading that many Air National Gaurd units flew P-47s during the Korean War, but the type wasn't flown outside of the US because of cost concerns.