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p-11.cAce
02-03-2006, 08:23 PM
...if you intend to get back to RL anytime soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Ok I need help - is there a divebombers anonymous anywhere? A 12 step program? Maybe just a informal support group???
" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gifHi my name is P-11 and I'm a divebombing addict http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif" (everyone in group) "Hi P-11".
"I used to be a normal guy - dogfighting and strafing...and yes, I did toss a few 500#'s from my beloved Emil just to 'give it a try' ya know...see what it was like, who has'nt? Then some guy on comms starts talking all this crazy talk about his 'Stuvi' and 'sight velocities' and IAS vs. TAS and I'm thinking about downing this guy (friend or not) just to get him to shut up! But he sounded like he was having a great time so I found out where to get one of those 'Stuvi's' he was talking about. I talked the CO into letting me take a run in our neglected D5...told him some bs about it needing the dust blown off...and away I went. If I had only known http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif It started so innocently...a bridge here, a group of tanks there...before I knew it I was up all hours searching for objects to destroy, plotting out roll-over versus push-over pros and cons, placing objects just to maximize explosions! But today.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I did the unforgivable... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I flew 'unlimited ammo' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif just so I would not have to return to base. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I NEED HELP! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

p-11.cAce
02-03-2006, 08:23 PM
...if you intend to get back to RL anytime soon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Ok I need help - is there a divebombers anonymous anywhere? A 12 step program? Maybe just a informal support group???
" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gifHi my name is P-11 and I'm a divebombing addict http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif" (everyone in group) "Hi P-11".
"I used to be a normal guy - dogfighting and strafing...and yes, I did toss a few 500#'s from my beloved Emil just to 'give it a try' ya know...see what it was like, who has'nt? Then some guy on comms starts talking all this crazy talk about his 'Stuvi' and 'sight velocities' and IAS vs. TAS and I'm thinking about downing this guy (friend or not) just to get him to shut up! But he sounded like he was having a great time so I found out where to get one of those 'Stuvi's' he was talking about. I talked the CO into letting me take a run in our neglected D5...told him some bs about it needing the dust blown off...and away I went. If I had only known http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif It started so innocently...a bridge here, a group of tanks there...before I knew it I was up all hours searching for objects to destroy, plotting out roll-over versus push-over pros and cons, placing objects just to maximize explosions! But today.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I did the unforgivable... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I flew 'unlimited ammo' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif just so I would not have to return to base. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I NEED HELP! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Stackhouse25th
02-03-2006, 08:27 PM
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ATLAS_DEATH
02-03-2006, 08:32 PM
Awesome

Viper2005_
02-03-2006, 11:12 PM
You should try high altitude vulching.

I started my high altitude dive bombing career when warclouds went to a one death kick.

Pretty soon I developed a knack of putting my SC500 on target from a release height in excess of 6 km.

The server went back to a 3 death kick and I went back to relatively low altitude work.

Then one day the red team out numbered us and started to throw their weight around. This Greatly Displeased me. Vengence was required.

So I attached an SC500 to my trusty A9 and started to climb.

I crossed the lines at 8 km and started to circle about 10 km from the red base, about half of which I could see through a hole in the cloud. I was carefully positioned so that my run would take me home, being well aware of the risk of being chute-killed by a swarm of angry reds if I was caught.

After what felt like an hour, but was probably 5 minutes, a bandit spawned on the ramp I was watching.

I pushed over and closed the throttle.

At 6 km in a 45º dive I released my bomb and pulled out.

My bomb had a 5 second delay, so it took almost 15 seconds from bomb release until "Enemy Aircraft Destroyed" flashed up on the screen. I doubt the poor blighter even knew what hit him. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

A few days later, I did it again. And again.

Of course it takes a very long time to drag an A9 up to 8 km with an SC500, so sometimes I go as low as 5 km.

I've tried vulching down on the deck, but it's not as much fun. They tend to see me coming, and hit refly. Anyway the bomb aiming is just too easy. A large part of the fun of high altitude vulching is the difficulty of killing a target over 5 km away with an unguided bomb and no bombsight.

Of course reading the subsequent chatbar messages is great too! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Jetbuff
02-03-2006, 11:16 PM
You should try level bombing from angels 6+. Now that's addictive!

I think I still have a track of my first major accomplishment in that regard; sinking the carrier HMS Illustrious in Forgotten Skies from angels 5. SUUWEEEEET! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

x__CRASH__x
02-04-2006, 01:56 AM
8 crying smilies in one post. Too distracting, I didn't bother reading it.

ZK-DABLIN
02-04-2006, 02:07 AM
That is an amazing achievement Viper2005. I've tried low altitude dive bombings attempts in training with sparatic success.

What tricks do you use to maintain such accuracy?

Werg78
02-04-2006, 02:08 AM
roll over = teh win!

Capt.LoneRanger
02-04-2006, 02:09 AM
Actually I find it a lot more thrilling to fly to the target at 10ft, drop a bomb an 1800kg bomb from my Stuka, set to 10sec and be on the way home, when the targetzone turns into dust. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

p-11.cAce
02-04-2006, 06:29 AM
I'll have to give the high altitude work a try - I'm working on the level bombing stuff now as well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Its like having a whole new sim!

jds1978
02-04-2006, 06:44 AM
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SeaFireLIV
02-04-2006, 06:57 AM
You mean you guys actually understood what he was talking about? I gave up after the first line.

Hawgdog
02-04-2006, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
8 crying smilies in one post. Too distracting, I didn't bother reading it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know, you come here to forget about family life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

p-11.cAce
02-04-2006, 08:08 AM
It was a poor attempt at humor.

UberPickle
02-04-2006, 09:12 AM
divebombing is great, in moderation.

There is help p.11 ace.

Call this number: 1-800-div-help

Jetbuff
02-04-2006, 10:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
8 crying smilies in one post. Too distracting, I didn't bother reading it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yet you bothered to reply... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Good luck P11, but I warn you the level drop bug is far, far worse than the dive bomb. Once you master the accuracy issue, you will find yourself playing with all the different loadouts, bombing speeds and altitudes and some fancier stuff to try to deal effectively with dispersed/harder targets.

Afflicted II./JG1 pilots gather for a Sunday morning meeting, with coffee and bagels.

Viper2005_
02-04-2006, 11:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ZK-DABLIN:
That is an amazing achievement Viper2005. I've tried low altitude dive bombings attempts in training with sparatic success.

What tricks do you use to maintain such accuracy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I started out at low level, and slowly worked up. I gently pushover into a dive and place the target on the revi, then start to pull out and drop the bomb when the target passes through the padding on the instrument panel.

The wonderful thing about dive bombing is that the faster you go and the steeper your dive the less angular drop your bomb will experience on its way to the target.

At high altitude very high true speeds &gt;500 mph may be obtained by the point of weapons release, and so accuracy isn't as hard as it might at first appear.

And of course, aircraft are soft targets and so you don't need to be hugely accurate.

I suggest you start low (500 m release) and gradually work up. The geometry stays pretty much the same; it's just that everything is on a bigger scale.

So if I have a 1 m miss distance from a 600 m release I can expect a 10 m miss distance from a 6 km release.

As such it's quite hard to hit hard targets from 6 km, but groups of hard targets are vulnerable.

If you can see them, AAA guns are also soft targets and thus should be vulnerable to high altitude dive bombing.

The best bit is that you exit the profile at about 4-5 km flying at very high speed, which means that if you've arranged your dive carefully you may well be back inside friendly territory by the time your bombs go off!

I only really discovered I could do this because of the huge difficulty I experienced getting to the target when w/c had its deathkick set to 1.

PS - test your aeroplane's breakup speed offline before you start to dive bomb in order to avoid nasty surprises!

mortoma
02-04-2006, 01:39 PM
That whole Stuvi thing is a bunch of nonsense. I took a whole week of my life to learn that when we got a Stuka version with it. And I must say that I
found that I can hit targets just as well by just using normal sighting methods, like I used before.

SnapdLikeAMutha
02-04-2006, 01:51 PM
When you get bored of that and need a new challenge you could always try climb bombing.

Dive down toward a target, and release the bomb in a vertical zoom-climb over it

Utterly pointless, but immensely satisfying and most impressive if you get it right http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ZK-DABLIN
02-04-2006, 02:16 PM
Thanks for your tips VIPER. I for one need to improve on my dive bombing, and ground attack capabilities.

I will do as you say and start low and then gain height in time.

p-11.cAce
02-04-2006, 04:19 PM
I like using the Stuvi - but I've got a bit of a button pushing thing that aspect satisfies. I have really enjoyed learning to use the bombsight in the He-111 and am actually starting to hit what I am aiming for http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I thought I might be getting spoiled by the stuvi so I went back to a b2 and had no problems. I think when you get used to the "sight picture" you really don't need the sight very much; you can feel if you are lined up or not pretty well. Things can sure get busy in a hurry if it all starts going to cr@p late in a bomb run though!

Stackhouse25th
02-04-2006, 04:22 PM
hey P11CACE, want to dogfight in p11?