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Sillius_Sodus
03-28-2009, 02:46 PM
Hello,

I as fooling around in QMB today and thought I would try out something a bit different, using the SBD-5 air to air. To make it a bit more fair I only went up against other dive/torpedo bombers.

I left the gunner autopilot on so the poor chap in the back could have a crack as well between bouts of throwing up from my sloppy flying...
Interestingly, the gunner opens up even when the bandit is in my front quarter, at pretty much any angle except dead six. He's got a pretty wide field of fire but it's a bit much. I realize it must be the AI code, no complaints though, I can always turn the automation off.

Dogfighting in the SBD is fun, going up against dive bombers, they are quite agressive, especially the D3A Val, they break hard and use the vertical to attack. The torpedo bombers are rather more sedate, preferring to run in a straight line or only make gentle turns. It is funny to watch the rear gunner in the B6M bob up and down between firing positions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.

The SBD also seems to be able to absorb more damage from the Japanese gunners than say, the Wildcat or P-40. I took some long bursts without a scratch whereas in the fighters I would likely have had my engine shot away or been wounded.
Against Stukas it's another story, their defensive gunfire is much more lethal. When flying against the SBD, it's defensive fire is also dangerous.

Plinking away with the SBD's .50's is a hoot and combat happens at a much slower pace, just the thing for a lazy Saturday afternoon.

Sillius_Sodus
03-28-2009, 02:46 PM
Hello,

I as fooling around in QMB today and thought I would try out something a bit different, using the SBD-5 air to air. To make it a bit more fair I only went up against other dive/torpedo bombers.

I left the gunner autopilot on so the poor chap in the back could have a crack as well between bouts of throwing up from my sloppy flying...
Interestingly, the gunner opens up even when the bandit is in my front quarter, at pretty much any angle except dead six. He's got a pretty wide field of fire but it's a bit much. I realize it must be the AI code, no complaints though, I can always turn the automation off.

Dogfighting in the SBD is fun, going up against dive bombers, they are quite agressive, especially the D3A Val, they break hard and use the vertical to attack. The torpedo bombers are rather more sedate, preferring to run in a straight line or only make gentle turns. It is funny to watch the rear gunner in the B6M bob up and down between firing positions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif.

The SBD also seems to be able to absorb more damage from the Japanese gunners than say, the Wildcat or P-40. I took some long bursts without a scratch whereas in the fighters I would likely have had my engine shot away or been wounded.
Against Stukas it's another story, their defensive gunfire is much more lethal. When flying against the SBD, it's defensive fire is also dangerous.

Plinking away with the SBD's .50's is a hoot and combat happens at a much slower pace, just the thing for a lazy Saturday afternoon.

TS_Sancho
03-28-2009, 03:12 PM
The SBD was used as fleet defense on some occasions and while not dominating it was successful in the role.

http://www.militaryfactory.com....asp?aircraft_id=297 (http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=297)

Theres a good A2A account of SBD on one of the dogfights episodes.

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEnDjwXnj3Y

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...7cGw&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1NTUzj7cGw&feature=related)

Back in my fighter Ace days we would have weekly organized squad tournements 6v6 in similiar aircraft. Someone thought it would be a good april fools gag for the Ju87D to be the chosen plane of the week. After the belly aching from the fighter jocks over being forced to fly the Stuka in an ACM contest we all left with big smiles on our faces and a whole new respect for what the creative use of dive brakes and liberal flaps could contribute to putting your guns on the badguy.
All the more proof that it really is the pilot, not the plane.

Zeus-cat
03-28-2009, 09:27 PM
If you really want to have fun dogfight with TB-3s. Turn on unlimited ammo.

STENKA_69.GIAP
03-30-2009, 04:24 AM
Get in the back seat and switch off the rear gunner autopilot - he won't hit anything anyway.

Then switch between front and back seats working the gun manualy.

Set your mouse right click to change seat then you are ready to point and fire immediately.

jldjs
04-06-2009, 04:25 PM
How do you switch on/off the rear gunner auto?

jldjs
04-06-2009, 05:19 PM
Never mind, I got it.

RPMcMurphy
04-06-2009, 06:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sillius_Sodus:
Dogfighting in the SBD is fun, going up against dive bombers, they are quite agressive, especially the D3A Val, they break hard and use the vertical to attack.

The SBD also seems to be able to absorb more damage from the Japanese gunners than say, the Wildcat or P-40. I took some long bursts without a scratch whereas in the fighters I would likely have had my engine shot away or been wounded.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
After seeing this post I went and did just-that.
I put myself in the rear gunner seat of an SBD over Okinawa against one D3A Val. That is a kick in the head. I had'nt done that in a while.
Well, I got some hits on the val after some luck as he decided to chase us and he got in just the right spot and my pilot didnt pull up and screw up my aim on him. The D3 started leaking fuel then it made a real close pass like he wanted to ram us and then he went down right in the middle of a concrete runway and it scored me an enemy aircraft destroyed.
But then my pilot had to make a deadstick landing and bellied-in near the airfield. Later, when I saw the track I noticed that the Val clipped our SBDs prop. The Val lost its left wing and corkscrewed in, but the SBD only lost engine power.

I_KG100_Prien
04-06-2009, 06:52 PM
Some of the most fun I've had with this Sim is setting up Dive Bomber vs Divebomber dogfights in the QMB.

My favorite was the JU-87G against Vals.

na85
04-06-2009, 08:34 PM
Guaranteed, the best fun you will have is doing a coop, in 2's or 3's flying TB3 bombers.

It's especially good fun trying to bomb the other aircraft if you can manage to get an alt advantage.

AllorNothing117
04-09-2009, 08:45 AM
Hmmmmm... More dumb AI