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ybesimple
05-15-2004, 12:48 PM
when i saw this trailer i knew it deserved its own thread in the forums. if you havent seen it yet its available at:
http://www.mysterium.ch/index_e.html

ive got a lot to say about it, but not nearly enough time. lets hear what youve all got to say.

ybesimple
05-15-2004, 12:48 PM
when i saw this trailer i knew it deserved its own thread in the forums. if you havent seen it yet its available at:
http://www.mysterium.ch/index_e.html

ive got a lot to say about it, but not nearly enough time. lets hear what youve all got to say.

Cierdwyn
05-15-2004, 04:08 PM
I really only have one thing to say about the trailer ... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Oh, and mind my drool ...

Cierdwyn

earthangell
05-15-2004, 05:30 PM
Cierdwyn, I'm with you!!! that was the most incredible trailer i've ever seen! i'm consumed with shock, amazement, excitement, etc.. i've got extra towels for all the droolers *places a stack of towels on the table*..
my only worry is that creature that jumps at us and takes down the sweet dinohind. BUT, i want that monkey!!!

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Lei'arra in URU

To dance is to breathe...to breathe is to live....to live is to dance....

hogarth..
05-15-2004, 06:57 PM
Yes, this game may produce a profitable line of spinoff stuffed toys. I'm surprised the Squee wasn't a bigger hit in that regard.

********

hogarth

JustBrett
05-15-2004, 07:24 PM
Did anybody ever MAKE a squee plushie? I would have bought one. I did get the pewter squee in the Exile Collectors Edition.

There's one thing I didn't see in the trailer: roller coasters. Riven and Exile gave us some great ones, like the maglev cars and the Amateria ice ball. I sure hope Revelation has at least one good roller coaster ride.

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budye
05-15-2004, 07:59 PM
tonight I downloaded the new windows media player 9 series just so I can see this new trailer, and now it looks so good but it isn't loading fast enough. I'm still waiting. this dial up has got to go. I didn't get to play live either because of it.

Eat_My_Shortz
05-16-2004, 08:09 AM
So we finally get to see the real actors, not just portraits. (Or at least, Achenar).

Its wierd - in Myst Sirrus was the evil one, and Achenar was just silly.
In Revelation, I think Achenar looks really evil, and Sirrus looks like a nice young man!
But he was always the deceitful type.

About their age - They were about 20 maybe in Myst - that means they should be 40 by now. They don't really look 40.

But how cool is the painting at the start?
Ahh Myst Island! You can see the clocktower, and also notice the boys (very young) playing with the Stoneship Boat Model. Its touches like that that will make this brilliant.

Another thing - the journal seems to be Achenars, since it says "WHERE THE HELL IS SIRRUS" - I think it might have been when they were making their plans before Myst. (We've already seen Sirrus' note: "Remember, he is preparing! Take only one page, my dear brother!") I hope all the journals turn pages like that. That would be so much cooler than the previous games. In fact, if you read below, i'm definitely sure its his journal.

OK lets see what I can make of the journal: (I feel like Nick from Uru). Its really blurry and hard to read but I think I got the gist of it.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>... is at last!!! Recalling working so late there .... ...(?). They made a good day of linking, but at least they .... things down for a while.

......(Cant read all this). We should just kill father and be done with it.

Then again, maybe I should link back to Myst and .... Sirrus to use the old man for his ..... After all ............

(Over the page)
.... kill myself. ... up with a ..... thats what Sirrus would do, isnt it. He
WHERE THE HELL IS SIRRUS?!
Doesn't matter. Need a break. Someplace to ......

STOP IT!! THINK
THE SHIP. It'll do for now till I build something better. GOT to be easier to get into, though Easier, but protected against intruders. Got to protect myself, right?

Good. That's good. Thats.
I'M GONNA KILL YOU FOR THIS OLD MAN!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well I think I got most of that out. I hope you guys enjoy it - theres a lot of gold in there! The truth will be revealed!

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Eat_My_Shortz
05-16-2004, 08:11 AM
Heh... reading it with all the ........s in it - its kinda like speaking to them in Myst!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

Srikandi
05-16-2004, 02:34 PM
Eat: Nice job transcribing! I kept trying to read the journals at E3 but folks were always talking to me and stuff!

yes, the pages all turn like that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As for the roller-coaster, well, let's just say that I saw something sort of like that somewhere! And astonishingly, still 360 so you can turn around and see out all sides while you're moving -- frankly it was so natural I forgot to wonder at the time how they DID that, but now I'm scratching my head http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

(Hoping I'm not revealing any secrets here -- this was in the "official" demo, so should be described in the press reports.)

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JFT117
05-16-2004, 10:28 PM
Is it me, or could it say:
____

WHERE THE HELL IS SIRRUS?!

Doesn't matter. Need a (beer).
Somplace to (role) up (in).
Some (drinks).

STOP IT!! THINK
_____

everything in (-)'s are questionable

It's possible that Achenar is an achoholic...

JFT117
05-16-2004, 11:02 PM
My take on the first page. The first paragraph is good, the second one is still sorta sketchy
_____

####

(Man) is it (hot)!!! (Actually)
(starting) to like these
(infernal) (thunderstorms).
They (ruin) a good day of
(hunting) but at least they
(rest) things (down) for a while.

Surprised (my) greedy (brother)
(lemther) (down) (by) (god) He's
just to know (I) (ripped) (out)
(on) (him) (in) (Sananco) (after)
(its) (willed) (their) (little)
(dreams). He's (implies) of be
(thinks) his (plan) there will
(work) we should just kill
father and be done with it,
________
(-) for unsure words
I think that 'sananco' is possibly the name of an age

Sorry about the double post http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by JFT117 on Mon May 17 2004 at 01:15 AM.]

Phen1
05-17-2004, 12:58 AM
Holy cow! I have no sound at the moment, but this looks awesome! That one place wehre the bird creature is flying away from the stump... doesn't that look a bit like Riven? There appears to be a golden thing in the background, but what is it? I can't wait! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
(why is there no "jumping up and down" smiley?)

~~PHEN~~

Pre-rendering ROCKS!!!

Phen1
05-17-2004, 01:00 AM
Also, when it shows Atrus at the beginnning writing in a book, the crystal thing on his desk is a different one! It's no longer pink, like the one in exile. Now it looks greenish and a different shape! *runs back to dig through it all some more*

~~PHEN~~

Pre-rendering ROCKS!!!

JFT117
05-17-2004, 02:06 AM
Well, I mean, that pink rock thing was SO 2001... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


And my take on page 2
_________

Then again, maybe I should
link back to Myst and
(accompany) Sirrus to (set)
the old (man) (free) (here) (in)
(Heces) After all these
weeks of (practice), my
hunting and (traveling) skills
(have) (really) improve.

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TE----- (scribbles)
No way me why im why it's
mask -- GOT is be have
remembers. GOT TO BE!!!
But I've researched invented
A rengade

WHERES THE BLOODY
LINKING BOOK
______

The last paragraph is really hard to make out, and my transciption is just to really identify that there are words there, and what they roughly look like. Not necessarily what they are.

Eat_My_Shortz
05-17-2004, 05:20 AM
Whoa JFT117 - I didn't see half those words.
This new journal has certainly captured people's attention.

Sri - I'm glad u had fun at the E3 - did you go there as part of your "Myst Worlds Community Assistant & Moderator" or just as a normal person?

Anyway, your roller coaster sounds fantastic. I think THAT was one of the things Uru was missing that was in Riven and Exile. 360 degree panning DURING the Rollercoaster ride - now THAT's impressive. No wonder its on DVD!
(Who ever heard of Full-Motion Video with 360 degree panning!!!!! If you think about it the statistics on the number of pixels they'd have to render is mind-boggling. Speaking of which, does anybody know what resolution its at. Not still 640x480 I hope.)

Thats another reason for realRiven (this is part of my realRiven campaign!) - in realtime 3D you could easily have panning during the maglev rides. I really hope they do that sooner or later.

In the meantime, Revelation seems to add something new every single day. Lets see, I was pretty convinced this was going to be "the greatest game of all time" (to top my previous dead-heat of Riven, Exile and Warcraft III) about a week ago. So how do I feel about it now?

Awwrrrggg I'm drowning in my own drool!

There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

JustBrett
05-17-2004, 08:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eat_My_Shortz:
does anybody know what resolution its at. Not still 640x480 I hope.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Pat has said 800x600.

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Eat_My_Shortz
05-17-2004, 08:23 AM
Oh no! My screen goes wacky at that resolution. Do you think there will be an option to choose higher resolutions and the screen itself shrinks to take up only 800x600 pixels (as in Riven)?

There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

JFT117
05-17-2004, 09:35 AM
Well, since Riven could, then M4 probably does. The Revelation team seems to have thought of everything. Fixing all the old mistakes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I found a nifty shareware program that can take some nice shots of a speedy video (plus that I couldn't print screen WMP anyways.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif )

Snatch It! (http://theedgeofforever.com/)

I really only looked at what was on the page. It was easy to tell how many words there were, so I marked off the different words. Some were simple to figure out. But some are really hard. In several places Im not sure if it says in, or is. But playing around with the words until they match, and makes some sort of sense is how I figured them out.

This is defintely Achenar's journal though. If I was right about the hunting part, then it matches with what we saw in the e3 trailer with Achenar and his axe.

I'm not sure that the old man he is refering to is Atrus. Could be someone else. There were several old men mentioned in the journals in the myst library. But apparently they have him in their custody, and are planning to release him in a prison age. Although Achenar's mention of just killing father (obviously Atrus), and his raw hatred of whom ever he is talking about, seems to suggest it's Atrus.

I wonder if a lot of the story of Revelation jives with the comic books, and how the Mechanical age and it's people had an effect on S&A.

earthangell
05-17-2004, 10:47 AM
there are comic books???

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Lei'arra in URU

To dance is to breathe...to breathe is to live....to live is to dance....

JFT117
05-17-2004, 11:23 AM
Erm.. yes.. there are comic books. they came out a LONG time ago, they only made a few (2 or 3). I never personally read them. But there was an ad for them in a distribution of Myst from '97 I think. It was saying stuff about S&A and the black ships, and how S&A would tell them about books so they could could control the fleet. And the way they made Gehn look was soooo lame. And Atrus looks like Kurt Russel.. lol

They are a very rare item. Might be lucky to find one on Ebay.

But You can find them on the internet..

here (http://www.lonelyto25.com/download/)

On another note. I sorta worked on the last 2 pages of the 6 that are visible. Since it cuts away to another image, as you see those pages, it makes it exceedingly difficult to discern what is even on the page. Let alone transcribe it.

I didn't even bother with (-)'s.. too much is up in the air with these two.

Page 5
_________

*******line 1
*********line 2
***********line 3
*************line 4

***********line 5
Mostly burned.....
out how to.....
habits my....
dear glnan....

(possible drawing here)
_________
Page 6
_________

left swaps I apaps...
wonderful improvement imprin...

*********####
*********(four) [&lt;-- this even here?]

Past fold day too find
don't mansetin filling to
in something refers has
akjhsk.......

are I it good

[probably more text/drawing here)

__________________

Edit: the asteriks are just to get the forum to do the line placement right. So imagine that they aren't there.

earthangell
05-17-2004, 04:09 PM
JFT, i think you might have a little too much time on your hands.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif but then, so do I!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Lei'arra in URU

To dance is to breathe...to breathe is to live....to live is to dance....

JFT117
05-17-2004, 07:15 PM
Actually, I was home today because I'm sick... so I got some time today to play around, but I usually have lot's of time. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

earthangell
05-17-2004, 10:11 PM
i'm sorry you are sick! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif hope you get better real soon!!!

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Lei'arra in URU

To dance is to breathe...to breathe is to live....to live is to dance....

Eat_My_Shortz
05-17-2004, 10:24 PM
WOW!!! MYST COMICS!!!
I never knew there were these. Thanks so much JFT.
I have heard of the Black Ships Book - I thought it was a novel that never came out. I can't wait to read them.

WOW - Maybe this will finally answer why Sirrus has the Black Ship cloth in his drawer on Stoneship.

brb!!!

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Eat_My_Shortz
05-17-2004, 10:41 PM
Wha... wha... that's it??!!
It feels like Toy Story 2! Did they never make the conclusion?

Still, this story is incredible. It links so perfectly all four Myst games (Myst, Riven, Exile, Revelation). I can't believe this has been around for all this time. And yes, it does explain all those clues in Myst.

Now if you haven't already, I strongly recommend you all read Atrus' Mechanical Age journal from Myst which continues the story.

It can be found here (http://www.dnidesk.com/mechjour.html) in text format, or here (http://www.l7square.com/journals/) in graphical format (but you'll need to navigate from the second one).

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JFT117
05-19-2004, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by earthangell:
i'm sorry you are sick! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif hope you get better real soon!!!
QUOTE]

Thanks. I'm on the rebound http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yep.. comics... apparently they didn't really have a following, so they were discontinued... *points to 1 out of four on the first page*

As for the Books... the uncompleted books are the Book of Marrim.. and the rumored Book of Brothers, which may have to do with the same things as the comic.

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CAGrayWolf
05-20-2004, 05:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JFT117:
Yep.. comics... apparently they didn't really have a following, so they were discontinued... *points to 1 out of four on the first page.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ummm ... NO! The comics and the contract were canceled by Cyan because Darkhorse comics totally screwed up the story line and went against the guidelines stated by Cyan.

Perhaps the ending has not yet been written!

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Scrybe2
05-21-2004, 03:44 PM
Hi. Um, I made a forum mistake...

I made a transcription in another Myst forum, and put it in the "My Analysis of the Rev. Trailer" topic before I saw the progress people were making in this one. My mistake. &lt;_&lt;

"Wow, that was a dumb signature."

earthangell
05-21-2004, 06:14 PM
so'kay, Scrybe2, I saw your post and really enjoyed it! and, welcome to the forums!

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Lei'arra in URU

To dance is to breathe...to breathe is to live....to live is to dance....

JFT117
05-21-2004, 06:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CAGrayWolf:
Ummm ... NO! The comics and the contract were canceled by Cyan because Darkhorse comics totally screwed up the story line and went against the guidelines stated by Cyan.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry.. Didn't know that... Not that easy to find information from back then, esp. about something thats not too known of.

Yeah.. some things in the comics are questionable... like the way they made some of D'ni look... And that King Clive thing really gets me. And I know the point of Sirrus and Achenar have corresponding hair color with the books, but their personalities seem reversed.. the blue haired Achenar seems more like Sirrus, and the red poofy haired Sirrus seems more like Achenar.

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CAGrayWolf
05-21-2004, 09:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JFT117:
Yeah.. some things in the comics are questionable... like the way they made some of D'ni look... And that King Clive thing really gets me. And I know the point of Sirrus and Achenar have corresponding hair color with the books, but their personalities seem reversed.. the blue haired Achenar seems more like Sirrus, and the red poofy haired Sirrus seems more like Achenar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

These are some of the very reasons the comics were canceled by Cyan. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Perhaps the ending has not yet been written!

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paxmanchris
05-22-2004, 10:54 PM
just saw the new trailer. and the game looks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif wonderfull!
this is my take on Achenars journal.
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page 1
man its hot!! actually starting to like these infernal thunderstorms. They ruina good day of hunting. But at last they cool things a while.

supeised my gready brother hasn't shown up yet. He's got to know i skipped oun on him in senenie[an age possibly], after we called that little truce. He's inune[crazy] if he thinks his plane there will work we should just kill father and be done with it.

then again, maybe i should link back to myst, and convince Sirius to set the old man free here in haven. After all these weeks of practice, my hunting and tracking skills have really improved.

no way no way noway its got to be here somewhere. GOT TO BE HERE. where's the blasted linking book!

-- page two
**[got to]** pull myself **[together]** come up with a **[plan]**. that's whats Sirrus would do, isn't it? He
where the hell is sirrus
Doesn't matter. need a base some place to role up in some stink
stop it!! think
the ship it'll do for now, till i build somthing better. Got to be easer to get into, though tis easier but protected against intruders. got to protect myself, right?

good thats good thats

im going to kill you for this old man.

-- third page
[first parragraph is something about a tunnel]

**[bad]** day today. Mostly karnake[the animals he hunted maybe]. figuring out how to use there *festing rabits against them was sheer genius

cant excape i been wrongful impresonment
where is sirrus
past few days *** dont rmember *** is something about here? ***
why havent i seen it yet?
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so after going over that a million time trying to get every word down, i can tell where he is writing this journal.
he is in the age he was traped in. the thing he is hunting are the animals we see in the trailer [i am totaly guessing this].
he is sortof going crazy, because unlike the other they linked to from myst, this one does not have a myst linking book.

ps. this game is going to be http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif the best

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