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dieg777
10-21-2005, 01:56 PM
I have just started playing online - after about 4 years offline and although I seriously suck I am really having fun- it has opened up a new dimension to the game for me. The thing is I put it off too long as I thought it was very complicated to sort out and I discovered that - with a little help- I got going very quickly. I have read other threads about this and would like help to put together a simple guide for others. Please read my initial thoughts below and add comments as necessary . I will add these to what is posted here on PF forum http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/6791022932

and try to get something on airwarfare for others.

here are some simple steps


1) make sure you have full merged copy of game and patched to latest version 4.02 as this is where most of the action is.

2) you need to download a program called hyperlobby from here

http://hyperfighter.sk/

3)then install and register following the instructions here.

http://hyperfighter.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1

This will allow you to join online games.

4) When you launch hyperlobby you will see a list of dogfights on the left hand side -click one of these and it will open a new window with who is playing and the server settings. Pick one you like and click join this server.

5)This will launch your game - once it displayes connection has been sucessful click ok. This will download the server map. the bases and info are displayed. Join a side by clicking a base

6)Then go to customisation and pick your plane from list. Make sure you use default skins and obey rules on country markings.

7)click fly will launch you into game -usually on airfield ready to take off.

Some additional notes- if you are thinking about joining a server then check out their home site- there you will find faqs and server settings and usually a communication channel.
some servers sites are found here

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/190106645

GET COMMS !!! - I use teamspeak and I dont know how I would fly on line without it- this allows you to talk to teammates online and there is usually a general room for the server for general questions - this greatly helped me get started

teamspeak is found here

http://www.teamspeak.org/

tutorial here

http://www.goteamspeak.com/help.php?t=ts2tutorial

also see here

http://www.war-clouds.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28

hope this helps you get started - I will double check this and get it tydied up and submit it to airwarfare guides in the future.


Thanks in advance

dieg777
10-21-2005, 01:56 PM
I have just started playing online - after about 4 years offline and although I seriously suck I am really having fun- it has opened up a new dimension to the game for me. The thing is I put it off too long as I thought it was very complicated to sort out and I discovered that - with a little help- I got going very quickly. I have read other threads about this and would like help to put together a simple guide for others. Please read my initial thoughts below and add comments as necessary . I will add these to what is posted here on PF forum http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/6791022932

and try to get something on airwarfare for others.

here are some simple steps


1) make sure you have full merged copy of game and patched to latest version 4.02 as this is where most of the action is.

2) you need to download a program called hyperlobby from here

http://hyperfighter.sk/

3)then install and register following the instructions here.

http://hyperfighter.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1 (http://hyperfighter.sk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1)

This will allow you to join online games.

4) When you launch hyperlobby you will see a list of dogfights on the left hand side -click one of these and it will open a new window with who is playing and the server settings. Pick one you like and click join this server.

5)This will launch your game - once it displayes connection has been sucessful click ok. This will download the server map. the bases and info are displayed. Join a side by clicking a base

6)Then go to customisation and pick your plane from list. Make sure you use default skins and obey rules on country markings.

7)click fly will launch you into game -usually on airfield ready to take off.

Some additional notes- if you are thinking about joining a server then check out their home site- there you will find faqs and server settings and usually a communication channel.
some servers sites are found here

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/190106645

GET COMMS !!! - I use teamspeak and I dont know how I would fly on line without it- this allows you to talk to teammates online and there is usually a general room for the server for general questions - this greatly helped me get started

teamspeak is found here

http://www.teamspeak.org/

tutorial here

http://www.goteamspeak.com/help.php?t=ts2tutorial

also see here

http://www.war-clouds.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28

hope this helps you get started - I will double check this and get it tydied up and submit it to airwarfare guides in the future.


Thanks in advance

Kuna15
10-21-2005, 03:25 PM
Good quick online tutorial for newcomers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Chadburn
10-21-2005, 05:17 PM
Great idea....it's always nice to encourage more people to fly online.

Just a couple of quick comments to add to you're very good outline.

1. Advise newcomers to take the time to carefully read the brief so they can follow server rules. For example, some allow vulching while others strictly forbid it as a bootable offense.

2. Warping online. If someone's never experienced it before and the messagae about cheating pops up in chat, it may surprise some new on-line pilots. A brief warning about what that's all about might help.

3. A brief explanation about the more common abreviations used in chat such as, S!, OMW, GK, GS, RTB, RGR, etc. and about how map co-ordinates are usually called out D5-8 or D5-3 using sector letters and numbers and num pad position.

vocatx
10-21-2005, 07:18 PM
This is a great idea, Diegg! I know when I first tried getting on-line, I had plenty of questions, and then more afterwards.

One thing that I and other people have some problems with are getting HL up and running the first time. Jiri's instructions leave some information gaps that someone totally new to on-line gaming (like I was) can find hard to figure out. After I downloaded the client for HL, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't connect. Turns out all I had to do was enter my user name and password again on the HL entry screen, but it took me days to figure it out.


The abbreviations are a really good idea. I still see some that I can't decipher. Also, some instructions on Team Speak might be of help to the new folks.

Good luck with this project. It will make it much easier for people to join in, having a step by step guide to follow.

Enforcer572005
10-21-2005, 07:46 PM
this is exactly what i needed. ive been gobbling up fragments of stuff all over the place, but this is a good idea, since i finally wanna get online. thanx.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

nickdanger3
10-21-2005, 08:07 PM
And don't forget....

Prepare to get shot down. A lot.

Wholly different from offline. Better IMHO.

It's the difference between reading about swimming and jumping in the water.

dieg777
10-22-2005, 10:20 AM
Yep I get shot down lots!!!!
You get so caught up that situational awareness goes awol and BOOM someones on your six and your heading down- great fun

Thanks for tips - keep them coming

dieg777
10-26-2005, 12:20 AM
BUMP

On line is fun - but Im having to unlearn a lot of mistakes and laziness that had drifted into my flying- and Im still getting shot down lots

Any help or advice for here appreciated.

F19_Olli72
10-26-2005, 12:27 AM
For newbies with low end computers, id advise them to use ASE (All Seeing Eye) instead of Hyperlobby. You can set it to close itself down after it connects to save resources. I use it myself for that reason.

DmdSeeker
10-27-2005, 05:37 AM
While voice coms make a world of difference; one of the drawbacks is that it's very hard to know who's speaking.

This software: http://www.teamspeakoverlay.com/ integrates with Teamspeak and gives a small text message saying who's speaking; invaluable for team play on a public server or for new guys to a squad who haven't yet learnt to recognise thier squad mates voices.

It's got a couple of other bits and bobs such as an FPS meter; it's quite configurable and I can recommned it highly enough; it realy ought to be in the "essentials" thread.

Hawgdog
10-27-2005, 08:20 AM
Seek out SteveV, he is the wise http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

dbillo
10-27-2005, 10:23 AM
Yes, a great idea Dieg! Let me tell you what a great help your IL2 setup and optimization guide has been as well!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vocatx:
One thing that I and other people have some problems with are getting HL up and running the first time. Jiri's instructions leave some information gaps... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Agree! You should say more about the HL screen. It's not intuitive what the various slots are for, and Jiri doesn't mention anything about how you are supposed to click in the dogfight 1, 2, or 3 slots or the coop slot.

gates123
10-27-2005, 02:56 PM
check your 6 every 30 second and kik your rudder to check your 6 low

danjama
10-27-2005, 05:32 PM
You need to add to stay out of Danjama's path otherwise you will be dead.That is an essential. I have "Got Track"! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

scottmal1
10-28-2005, 02:34 AM
Just what i need dieg, i've been thinking about playing online but don't really know where to start, and i did'nt fancy trawling through thousands of posts to get the info i need.

dieg777
11-02-2005, 09:55 AM
Thanks for the help so far- first draft should appear soon- any other comments appreciated.

@dbillo Glad you found the guides helpful-I havnt used these slots either so any tips you have would help others.

dbillo
11-02-2005, 10:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dieg777:
...I havnt used these (HL) slots either so any tips you have would help others. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I read something somewhere about it, but can't recall where.
The slots 'dogfight1', 'dogfight2', 'dogfight3', and 'coop1' are supposed to represent missions that are being filled but not yet started. Those who host games on HL may know more about it. The dark and light (upper and lower) boxes in each slot represent the armies (red or blue) and the number of seats available in the mission. You click on an empty box and your name appears. I don't know if that automatically gets you a seat or if you still have to pick a seat when the game starts.

JG5_UnKle
11-02-2005, 10:48 AM
Also worth noting that the games you see on entering hyperlobby (the above mentioned DOGFIGHT 1,2,3,4 COOP 1,2 etc) are NOT the only rooms!

http://www.dongo.hu/images/tippek/hyperlobby/general_screen2.jpg

On the above image you can see a "General Room" button - press this and Voila! you will be able to view all of the other games which are getting ready.

This is where you will also see the rooms related to Online wars such as Czechwar, VOW etc.

When you look at the picture below you will see that after choosing a new room you will "lose" the list of Dogfight servers from the left hand side.

http://www.dongo.hu/images/tippek/hyperlobby/iow.jpg

MLudner
11-02-2005, 08:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dieg777:
Yep I get shot down lots!!!!
You get so caught up that situational awareness goes awol and BOOM someones on your six and your heading down- great fun

Thanks for tips - keep them coming </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Probably not as consistently as I have been.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

x6BL_Brando
11-03-2005, 04:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I don't know if that automatically gets you a seat or if you still have to pick a seat when the game starts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No dbillo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif It just gets you into the coop (or dogfight) but you still get your choice from all the planes that are available when the game starts. The hoster of the game has to take the top slot btw - or, put another way, if you take the top slot you will be the host!

Note that the Red up/ Blue down convention (regarding the dark or light slots) is not so strictly observed in most coops, and taking either will not always guarantee that you get a seat on a particular side. I believe the convention is more strictly used in the online-wars arenas.

Remember to check the host's preferences, by clicking on his name (dogfight arenas) before you jump in. In the coop 'waiting rooms' the preferences can be seen once a light has come on at the top of the column. Click on it. It's useful to know whether you're letting yourself in for a full-real or a wonder-woman server (or anything in between)

rnzoli
11-03-2005, 07:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dieg777:
BUMP

On line is fun - but Im having to unlearn a lot of mistakes and laziness that had drifted into my flying- and Im still getting shot down lots

Any help or advice for here appreciated. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The biggest help online is a friend you can fly with. Especially at the difficult end of the settings. Not necessary to be an expert, nor to fly in close formation - simply having another person around you improves your situational awareness incredibly, hence the higher 'immersion factor'.