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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:42 PM
As a disgruntaled axis pilot I'm sick of hearing and seeing that verdamnt American P-51 Mustang. I could not care if it is coming or not I don't mind new planes. I could not care if its great average uber or crap. However I have become so sick and tired of hearing about it and how its going destroy us poor Lufwaffe boy so I'm starting a petiton for all axis pilots to sign... It goes as follows.


I somely declare that I won't complain or ridicule the cursed American P-51 Mustang. I do decleare that I will however absolutly totally and utterly annihilate the bloody thing as soon as it becomes flyable no matter how good or bad the pilot and plane combination may be. Our aircraft are up the challenge and if for some bizzare reason the P-51 is modelled superior to all our pistion engine fighters I shall not complain.....I shall simple say hey its a better plane.....now I can fly the Me 262 and utterly wipe the floor with its fragile airframe without feeling guilty http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Step rigth up and sign on the dotted line.
.........................................

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:42 PM
As a disgruntaled axis pilot I'm sick of hearing and seeing that verdamnt American P-51 Mustang. I could not care if it is coming or not I don't mind new planes. I could not care if its great average uber or crap. However I have become so sick and tired of hearing about it and how its going destroy us poor Lufwaffe boy so I'm starting a petiton for all axis pilots to sign... It goes as follows.


I somely declare that I won't complain or ridicule the cursed American P-51 Mustang. I do decleare that I will however absolutly totally and utterly annihilate the bloody thing as soon as it becomes flyable no matter how good or bad the pilot and plane combination may be. Our aircraft are up the challenge and if for some bizzare reason the P-51 is modelled superior to all our pistion engine fighters I shall not complain.....I shall simple say hey its a better plane.....now I can fly the Me 262 and utterly wipe the floor with its fragile airframe without feeling guilty http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Step rigth up and sign on the dotted line.
.........................................

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:45 PM
Lame.

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07-17-2003, 08:49 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:51 PM
I'm looking forward to the P51 because for at least the fist couple of weeks the Stang will draw the uber-noobs out of their LA 7's.

This will not last however as the noobs discover that the Stang is a difficult AC to fly and ultimately a thinking pilots plane.




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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:52 PM
I can't wait to shoot this guy down when we get the P-51! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:56 PM
The P-51 won't get close to me ......as far as a thinking man's plane. all planes are the Me 109 as well it depends if the pilot is a thinker too.....I'm going enjoy driving you yankies out of the sky http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 08:58 PM
Spoken like a true Nazi.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:00 PM
I am with you on this one Faust.

I did like this line though:
Our aircraft are up the
- challenge and if for some bizzare reason the P-51 is
- modelled superior to all our pistion engine fighters
- I shall not complain.....

You should have thought this one through before you posted, herr Field Marshal.

You are stupid.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:08 PM
IMHO 1st the

Gladiator, Bf110, H-75, MS-406, Spit Mk.Vb, D-520, Macchi 202, IAR 80 flyable, which really fought in the east.

If then time is left, take attention to the P-51D (and B) - as a goody.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:08 PM
the mustang is a victim...

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:09 PM
I cant wait for the p51 to snap luftwaffe cables and here them whine, improved p47 rollrate and high alt performance and more effective 8 .50s

they should call 1.1 IL2 when the luft starts loosing the war.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:10 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:11 PM
KIMURA wrote:
- IMHO 1st the
-
- Gladiator, Bf110, H-75, MS-406, Spit Mk.Vb, D-520,
- Macchi 202, IAR 80 flyable, which really fought in
- the east.
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- If then time is left, take attention to the P-51D
- (and B) - as a goody.

Oh, too late.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:11 PM
Don't forget to check out this thread. It's made for you.

http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zcpvn

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:13 PM
Darn, you should really get yourself a vacation or a girlfriend.

Even the luftwhiners now believe that the P-51 is going to be superb. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I'll be quite happy when I see them on fire, in my BF109 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif But it is not a magical plane that guarantees instant succes.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:13 PM
RSL_Hellcat wrote:
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That is too funny.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:15 PM
i fart in your general direction.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:16 PM
Get back on meds and head back to therapy. Reality is a wonderful thing. Remember this is only a game!



Happy hunting and check six!

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:18 PM
So, do I let you guys know that the P-51 is really poopy at turn and burn, and can only pull about 6.7Gs?

And that the P51 drivers themselves preferred the P47?

Hmmm. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Fish on!

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:18 PM
Stavanger_1 wrote:I somely declare that I won't complain or ridicule
- the cursed American P-51 Mustang. I do decleare that
- I will however absolutly totally and utterly
- annihilate the bloody thing as soon as it becomes
- flyable no matter how good or bad the pilot and
- plane combination may be.



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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:25 PM
Stavanger_1 wrote:
- As a disgruntaled axis pilot ....

You are not disgruntled, and you´re not an axis pilot.

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When it comes to testing new aircraft or determining maximum performance, pilots like to talk about "pushing the envelope." They're talking about a two dimensional model: the bottom is zero altitude, the ground; the left is zero speed; the top is max altitude; and the right, maximum velocity, of course. So, the pilots are pushing that upper-right-hand corner of the envelope. What everybody tries not to dwell on is that that's where the postage gets canceled, too.

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:25 PM
This is perhaps the most bizarre thread I've ever had the displeasure of reading through. I want 2 minutes of my life back!

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:31 PM
Blergh!

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:42 PM
The fishing here is so easy Dave /i/smilies/16x16_robot-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:42 PM
Zzzzzz... Zzzzzzz... Zzzzzzz... Oh, my turn, I Own you, I kill you, I will..... uh.. sorry, I thought I was on the Quake Forums, my mistake....


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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 09:58 PM
and ya call yourself "thinking" pilot /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:07 PM
Now that Me109 is almost fully fixed(along with MK108 nyah!!) I can shoot literally any allied plane that is/will be flyable in FB(even P80/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ).I`m a Willywhiner myself and I will be completely pleased with Me109.I got my wish come true,now Yanks should get their too./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:07 PM
Stavanger_1 wrote:
- As a disgruntaled axis pilot I'm sick of hearing and
- seeing that verdamnt American P-51 Mustang. I could
- not care if it is coming or not I don't mind new
- planes. I could not care if its great average uber
- or crap. However I have become so sick and tired of
- hearing about it and how its going destroy us poor
- Lufwaffe boy so I'm starting a petiton for all axis
- pilots to sign... It goes as follows.
-
-
- I somely declare that I won't complain or ridicule
- the cursed American P-51 Mustang. I do decleare that
- I will however absolutly totally and utterly
- annihilate the bloody thing as soon as it becomes
- flyable no matter how good or bad the pilot and
- plane combination may be. Our aircraft are up the
- challenge and if for some bizzare reason the P-51 is
- modelled superior to all our pistion engine fighters
- I shall not complain.....I shall simple say hey its
- a better plane.....now I can fly the Me 262 and
- utterly wipe the floor with its fragile airframe
- without feeling guilty /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif .
-
- Step rigth up and sign on the dotted line.
- .........................................

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:11 PM
If it's in the game, it's in the game!

No whiners plz!

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:19 PM
Hmmm, I like Stracciatella (vanilla w.choc.chips) ice cream too........./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:21 PM
Splee!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I destroy axis pilots and their aeroplanes.

Fly Russian and smell the scent of victory./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:26 PM
Ill be happy to fly it, big fast heavily armed planes are the way to go. I dont care what side they come from.


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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:28 PM
Every Luftwaffe pilot deep down inside hopes the P-51 will kick ***.
It won't be much fan shooting it otherwise.
And we can't live without the controversy.
How's this forum going to survive anyway?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:49 PM
I don`t fly Axis but I think it`s funny!

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 10:59 PM
I don`t understand this /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif ... i think it`s obvious that this forum has majority from North America and they don`t have their favorite plane flyable yet...

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 11:43 PM
crazyivan1970 wrote:
- I don`t understand this /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif ... i think it`s
- obvious that this forum has majority from North
- America and they don`t have their favorite plane
- flyable yet...
-

Actually Ivan, the P-39 has been flyable since IL-2, but it will be great to have the P-51 too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 11:45 PM
Well faustnik baddio pal... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Popularity of P-39 is the states is soooo far away from Pony. Don`t you agree /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 11:50 PM
I was kidding Ivan...no plane can beat the Mustang in terms of name recognition in the U.S. I can't wait to see it flyable in FB. I am almost as excited about the P-51 as I am the IAR81!

XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 11:58 PM
/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif This has to be the funniest post in awhile. Pure comedy my friend pure comedy! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 12:09 AM
Gosh Americans. Calm down.

The Mustang's only a latecoming plane.

Calm Down. Noone's trying to burn yoru flag or anything.

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 12:30 AM
No6_OTU_Swallow wrote:
- Gosh Americans. Calm down.
-
- The Mustang's only a latecoming plane.
-
- Calm Down. Noone's trying to burn yoru flag or
- anything.
-
Which Americans are you referring too?


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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 12:38 AM
I somely declare that the P-80 will rip appart any Me-262 with the proper pilot. And I wont feel guilty about bringing it to IL2 when the Me-262 whiners chime in about historical accuracy's.

Gib

Stavanger_1 wrote:
-
- I somely declare that I won't complain or ridicule
- the cursed American P-51 Mustang. I do decleare that
- I will however absolutly totally and utterly
- annihilate the bloody thing as soon as it becomes
- flyable no matter how good or bad the pilot and
- plane combination may be. Our aircraft are up the
- challenge and if for some bizzare reason the P-51 is
- modelled superior to all our pistion engine fighters
- I shall not complain.....I shall simple say hey its
- a better plane.....now I can fly the Me 262 and
- utterly wipe the floor with its fragile airframe
- without feeling guilty http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
-
- Step rigth up and sign on the dotted line.
- .........................................
-
-
-
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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:19 AM
For the record I perfectly happy with axis plane particularly in patch where they are much heaviae yes some are over modelled like some VVS and do think overall axis have superior engined plane in the games as it stands personall, in original Il-2 vvs had better planes.. However the point is I do not fear the mustang or any other allied or russian plane .....infact alot of the american post war fighter designs where based on german technoology like a lot of russian stuff as well cause the germans had superior aircraft....regardless of how good the mustang (I have a no knowledge about it) I know for a fact that the ME 262 is better aircraft....I don't know about piston engine axis aircraft in comparsin but I have seen mustang pilots on tv say how impressed they were with it. You can comment about other planes that is off topic but if this plane is as good as even says it should be. will we be finally allow fly the Me 262 against it? but besides that I confident german piston enegines planes are a match for it and as soon as it becomes avaiable I will glady except challenges against in the Bf 109...of course after you have had time to practise in it......hope I did not upset the wansk too much.

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:35 AM
Buzz wrote:
"Spoken like a true Nazi."

I find this very offending. You should think twice before calling someone a nazi, especially over something as meaningless as this topic.

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:52 AM
I agree MetalG.Buzz - think a little about what you posted./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:53 AM
I'm confused about some stuff:
1)Whick one was faster?
2)Which one had the better climb rate?
3)Which one was more maneuverable, either in low, medium or high speeds?
Consider P-51D and Me109G10 or 14, dunno which one was used more often against mustangs

These questions aren't ironic BTW, I truly don't know which one was better, and I always heard "the mustang kicks ***, the mustang won the war, the mustang ate 109's for breakfast"
I wanna know whick one was better, if possible from a non-biased institution

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:07 AM
I agree with above posts about the Nazi-calling. I don`t fly AXIS (usually), but the poster`s (Slavenger) said nothing to be called that. Just cos he upset your US sensibilities about a WWII plane!!
His post`s actually quite funny.



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Message Edited on 07/18/0301:10AM by SeaFireLIV

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:14 AM
F1NaZZ1 wrote:
"
- I wanna know whick one was better, if possible from
- a non-biased institution
-


You are in the wrong place for "non biased" input.

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The P51 will pan out like every other new introduction...

Some pilots will do well in it, some won't.

I look forward to it simply because it will give the allied side a geniune high altitude contender, the P47 should be, but it's FM is far from reality.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:23 AM
BUZZ thankyou for that link......lmao http://www.mythologybullfinch.com/26pzd/Whiners.html hehe buzz pulls through. this thread is lame though. any flight sim with a stang in it is more fun. and again the stang is about fifth on my list of fav planes to fly. i like 109s fws jugs spits corsairs zeros better. but ill fly the wings off a stang too !

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:45 AM
He said:

'I'm going enjoy driving you yankies out of the sky /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif "

Sounds like something a Nazi would say. No? Why are you guys offended by this. His bias shows through in loud colors. Am I biased too? Only against a Nazi. He doesn't hate the P-51 because of the plane. He hates it, because it's American.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:46 AM
This is the third thread that I have seen that equates a plane or plane lover as a "nazi". What is wrong here.He even said "axis" pilot not even german. We of my age in the US were brought up being taught that russians were soulless targets.I take no offence at someone who likes russian planes. I don't equate them with a sick twisted murderess gov't from 50 years ago.A true nazi lover post should be answered by no one and allowed to wither until removed speedily from the board.I myself would love to see the veltro modelled and would be in pigs heaven if it were(I'll take the 202).Also you plane lovers have to look at the bigger picture.By the time of the stangs arrival germany was not much better off than japan.The were producing more planes than ever but thanks too the russian army had no fuel.The trainee pilots were allocated very small amounts of fuel too train with.Had Galland been able to use his carefully husbanded fighters to make one 1000 fighter interception of an American bombing raid(instead of operation bodenplatte).The war would have still ended the same but the 8th air force would have been possibly damaged badly.Too few fighters for anti bombing campaign and lack of fuel made a campaign much better than it possibly could have been. The final point I'm getting at is "pilots,pilots,pilots" the difference in most of the planes modelled is miniscule it's the pilot that makes the difference.Removing myself from the soapbox now continue on.

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:48 AM
BuzzU wrote:

- He doesn't hate the P-51 because of the plane. He
- hates it, because it's American.

Bingo!!!

Right on the money there Buzz. If the Spitfire had been American and the P51 British, he would be railing agianst the Spit.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:51 AM
yep. i agree also.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:52 AM
BuzzU, that is the funniest and most clever things I have yet to see on the internet! I'm almost in tears right now! I think that might have even revived this sullen day in the forums into one of hilarity. You're right, this guy does sound like a Nazi. Well, good luck to him when a bunch of 'Stangs swoop down with six fifties at 10000m and cap him before he even knew what hit him! The uber noobs shall reign supreme!

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:59 AM
MackZ im in san jose CA... go to monterey all the time . they have a paintball field on fort ord i go to...woodstalk. monterey is a beautiful place to scuba and hang out. and gotta visit the WINGS store in carmel !!!

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 03:46 AM
Yeah, that's a great store! I love hearing the sounds of vintage aircraft flying by as soon as you walk in. If you notice my sig, that beach is actually Carmel beach even though I live in Monterey. I rarely go to Fort Ord, however. Occasionally I go with my friends to the converted RC field. Finally, somebody from Northern California!

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Message Edited on 07/17/0307:47PM by MackZ

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 04:36 AM
As usual...people blaming the plane and not the pilot.......

I dont fly axis..I fly a Messerschmitt BF 109

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 04:36 AM
The national spectrum is this varied, that there is no categorization which would define THE typical NAZI or THE typical right-wing extremist. Infact the term Nazi would fit to the majority on this forum, or to the majority of sport fans for that matter, if you´d use BuzzU´s simple-minded approach at it. Calling someone a NAZI based on the initial post in this thread, only shows your immaturity and lack of understanding what actually describes nazism. If nationalism equals nazism for you, then you are sitting in a glashouse throwing stones.



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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 04:43 AM
This one time....at the zoo...I could smell the monkey's arse as got close to his cage.

It smells like that in this thread.

Like a big old hairy un washed monkey's arse.

P-51 cry baby...lol!

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 04:44 AM
Oak_Groove wrote:
- The national spectrum is this varied, that there is
- no categorization which would define THE typical
- NAZI or THE typical right-wing extremist. Infact the
- term Nazi would fit to the majority on this forum,
- or to the majority of sport fans for that matter, if
- you´d use BuzzU´s simple-minded approach at it.
- Calling someone a NAZI based on the initial post in
- this thread, only shows your immaturity and lack of
- understanding what actually describes nazism. If
- nationalism equals nazism for you, then you are
- sitting in a glashouse throwing stones.
-

You have made some good points. However, I really think that the reaction was due to the thinly veiled anti-american tone of the original post. There are more of these undercover anti-amerinites surfacing daily and Buzz got a little caught up. It was clear to me that this gentlemen has some anti-american views or at least anti-american P-51 Mustang views. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Points well made and taken.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 04:58 AM
I can see it now the new Bumper Sticker and it reads:

"My Pilot is a ME-262 honor Student"

and the response Bumper Sticker is

"My P-51 Beat Up your ME-262 Honor Student"


Damn people I cant wait for Ubi to come out for an addon that has the F-14 or the F-18 so I can beat the both of ya up LOL.

I also find The Statement "Spoken like a true Nazi" Very offensive. Tone it down please. I am American and I dont think any of you like it when other people call Americans names. So respect others please.


Sheesh, Respect other peoples opinions.


Oh Yes by the way the P-51 will reign supreme!


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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:06 AM
Of course I didn't mean a Nazi in it's true form. I think you all know what I meant. Let's not blow it up to what it's not.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:15 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:16 AM
I just don't understand /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:24 AM
Stavanger_1 wrote:
- As a disgruntaled axis pilot I'm sick of hearing and
- seeing that verdamnt American P-51 Mustang. I could
- not care if it is coming or not I don't mind new
- planes. I could no *SNIP*

Thank God for posts like this! Because just when I think that maybe I dont have a life and or my girl friend thinks Im too into sims... A post like this comes along and shows that Im no where near the nerd some of these guys are! Thank You Stavanger... and turn off that PC and go get your self a burger at a fast food joint or something, and dont go threw the drive through like you usally do, get out and mingle with some real people for at least 5 mins a day!!!



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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:32 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- He said:
-
- 'I'm going enjoy driving you yankies out of the sky
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif "
-
- Sounds like something a Nazi would say. No? Why are
- you guys offended by this. His bias shows through in
- loud colors. Am I biased too? Only against a Nazi.
- He doesn't hate the P-51 because of the plane. He
- hates it, because it's American.

BuzzU, I think you exaggerated the hatred thing.
Maybe he doesn't like Americans or maybe he's just trying to recreate some rivalry in the inerests of making the game a more enjoyble experience but I don't see anything to support hatred.
Please don't call people names, especially on such sensitive mutters.
Berlousconi's example wasn't enough?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 07:03 AM
well americans tend to hate stuff too cos its french :P i had one guy say he wont use madrake linux cos its french :P well everybody is the same arnt they.

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BM357_Raven
07-18-2003, 07:37 AM
We'll take your challenge!!! Bring on those 262's!

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BM357_Raven
07-18-2003, 07:42 AM
Just thought this post needed a little lightening up...that's all /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 08:10 AM
im surprised this was one of your first posts. way to introduce yourself. asshat.


i bet this whiny teenager get shot down by the first P 51 he sees.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 09:57 AM
wouldnt an asshat actually be your trousers??? im just askin.......

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:06 PM
Buzz wrote:
"Sounds like something a Nazi would say. No? Why are
you guys offended by this. His bias shows through in
loud colors. Am I biased too? Only against a Nazi.
He doesn't hate the P-51 because of the plane. He
hates it, because it's American"

So you're saying, because he doesnt totally love the americans and doesnt like every single american thing, he is a nazi??
This is offending and I think this is a very rude thing to write in this topic.
You shouldnt call this or that Nazi so quickly.



Message Edited on 07/18/0301:07PM by MetalGear_

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:11 PM
Oak_Groove wrote:
- The national spectrum is this varied, that there is
- no categorization which would define THE typical
- NAZI or THE typical right-wing extremist. Infact the
- term Nazi would fit to the majority on this forum,
- or to the majority of sport fans for that matter, if
- you´d use BuzzU´s simple-minded approach at it.
- Calling someone a NAZI based on the initial post in
- this thread, only shows your immaturity and lack of
- understanding what actually describes nazism. If
- nationalism equals nazism for you, then you are
- sitting in a glashouse throwing stones.



most of the people don´t know about this topic. they call someone a nazi because they are not very clever and its an easy way to be very insultive instead of thinking first.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 01:37 PM
Okay can we drop to references to me being a nazi I'm not andoh and I have a life and a girlfriend and yes I do realise this is just afligth sim no need to start world war 3http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif...Buzz people will find being compared to a nazi offensive but I did not take too much into it can we just drop it for this post. And I'm sorry if my post appeared anti american that was not the intention....I have no problem with americans or the planes but realising its probaly america's favourite plane I'm sorry if the assault on the stang is offensive. Would everyone just lay off the character attacks if you like the mustang just something like I will kick you *** in it or soemthing to that effect not your asshat or a nazi.
The post was dedicated to one person I hammered online one night ina 109 and he just went on and on about how the mustang will destroy me....guess I misjudged the reaction.
However online I'm sick of hearing about how the stang is going completly destroy the luftwaffe plane....I have been told at least a dozen time on hyperlobby that it will kick the germans plane asses and every is posting on it forums.

Still I believe that the stang will be no match for axis plane and will be happy to shoot it down in large numbers when it does become available....lol I just asking for more abusive comments.

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 02:25 PM
ha ha "fight by the sword, die by the sword" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:19 PM
aren't petition threads suppost to be banned by the moderators?

Too much problems in this one please lock mods

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:22 PM
lol we need a new one ... IBTAHP ... in before the acehole posts http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif his name is close though :P OMG JUST SAW HIS PIC!!! ANOTHER UNIBROW !!!!

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:23 PM
georgeo76 wrote:
- I'm looking forward to the P51 because for at least
- the fist couple of weeks the Stang will draw the
- uber-noobs out of their LA 7's.
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- This will not last however as the noobs discover
- that the Stang is a difficult AC to fly and
- ultimately a thinking pilots plane.
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- "Altitude, speed, maneuver, fire!"-The "formula of
- Terror" of Aleksandr Pokryshkin, Three times awarded
- the rank of Hero of the Soviet Union

im looking forward to it coz it has thr turning power of the hurricane, the firepower of the p47 and the speed of an la-7

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 05:54 PM
Stavanger_1

Saying you want to shoot down the P-51 is fine, but you said you wanted to shoot down all the Yankees. That's what perked up my ears. On that subject. Why do you think nothing but Americans will be in the P-51? That's like saying nothing but Germans are in the 109.

This is a game. I've stated many times, that I fly all the planes. German and Russian much more than American planes. There is alot of bias in the community. There are Germans who wouldn't dare fly anything but German planes, and really think this war. Same for Russian, American etc. I have no bias towards anybody, or country. EXCEPT torwards biasd people. When someone shows dislike torwards me/country because of bias. I don't tunr the other cheek. Sorry, that the way I am.



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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:03 PM
Gees, its a GAME, chill out.



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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:06 PM
The game is when you click on the FB icon. This is a forum. Quite different../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:40 PM
Yeah!Nobod7y mess with Buzz or he`ll call you a "Nazi".

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:43 PM
Don't be stupid carguy. Oh wait! Sarcasm is your style. I forgot for a minute.

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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:46 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- The game is when you click on the FB icon. This is a
- forum. Quite different../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
-
- Da Buzz

But it is a forum about a GAME! If someone wants to debate, argue, point fingers, and generally be idiots about being western, european, or whatever, they should do it on a different message board. Sims like this are suppose to promote comradery amongst the players, not create a United Nations hissy fit gallery.



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XyZspineZyX
07-18-2003, 06:52 PM
Zeke,

I agree, but we do talk about more than the game. I also didn't start this thread. I don't start biased argumentive threads.

I also was done after the Nazi comment. You guys are the ones dragging this on and on.

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XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 01:04 PM
& to drag this on a bit more ... i thought he worded his petition in a funny manner ... was quite a well phrased put down of the P-51

you will see me in it as much as you see me in a 109

XyZspineZyX
07-20-2003, 01:20 PM
ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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