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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 07:42 PM
Would any Mig 3 fans care to share some opinions, tips, experiences on this type ?

Which model do you prefer ?

How do you make the most of it;s strengths & get kills with it's limited firepower ?

http://www.papermodels.co.il/MiG3a.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 07:42 PM
Would any Mig 3 fans care to share some opinions, tips, experiences on this type ?

Which model do you prefer ?

How do you make the most of it;s strengths & get kills with it's limited firepower ?

http://www.papermodels.co.il/MiG3a.jpg


http://www.ciudadfutura.com/aviones/yak-1.jpg

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 07:53 PM
MiG3 2xUB 1941

It's firepower ain't all that limited, especially using rockets.

It's strength is speed and climb-rate, but it leaks like a sieve if you get shot in the wings,

So don't approach enemy bomber from 6 o'clock, B'n'Z 'em instead./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 07:55 PM
Mig 3U is the best one, and has the same armament as the La7. Not what i'd call weak, but not the best either.

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 08:32 PM
I like them all.
They look extremely cool (being the only russian birds non-ugly) and are about the only russian planes as fragile as the early 109's. They have no ufo-like abilities, their weapons are far from allmighty... when I see someone in a MiG or a Focke, I salute, every time, for there is one brave pilot.


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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 08:33 PM
I love all versions. But you have a clear disadvantage against german fighters (only exception is Mig3U, maybe AM38).

I prefer default armament as "speed is life" more in mig than any other plane..

I've heard migs will fly a little better in 1.1..

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07-16-2003, 08:47 PM
Bring marshmallows.

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 08:52 PM
MIGS!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE TO SHOOT THEM DOWN /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif they burn like hell/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 09:01 PM
THey are good, and more like german fighters.. VVS pilots are used to Turn&Burn but with Mig that is not the right tactic.. Boom&zoom, and you can escape 109s with speed.. Mig-3U is pretty good airplane for 1942.. one of the best

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 09:24 PM
I prefer to carry Shvaks, as they have the greatest stopping power, and are the only guns I can kill the early 190's in.

First, understand that the MiG was designed for a high altitude (3K+ meters) intercepter for bombers, not as an escort to the IL-2 or for air superiority. Speed is the key, and a stable gun platform.


The weakness is the fuel tanks, which aren't self sealing. They start about two feet out from the fuselage and extend to about the half way mark out onto the wing, and are in the center of the wing. You have to protect them at all costs.

It doesn't do anything particularly well, but does just about everything okay, with the exception of slow turn fighting.

The key to surviving and winning, IMHO, is speed.

If you have speed, defend it for all you're worth.

Against the 109, understand that it can out accelerate you - if a 109 suckers you into a slow fight, especially the G model, you're going to lose unless he makes a serious mistake, as he can hammer down and gain the energy advantage from you much faster than you can. He can also out turn you, especially at slower speeds.

Against the 190, you're slower, but can turn quicker and almost keep up with them, even in a dive. Don't try to zoom climb with them, however, but take a more shallow climb and try to get some distance on them to change the dynamics of the fight and take his initiative. If you can sucker a 190 into a slow fight you can make them pay dearly.

Your MiG has a good roll rate, and you can use that to your advantage. Rather than slow down, take a high roll to increase the distance if they try to get you to play their turn games. In a yo-yo, for example, rather than simply pulling the stick up to climb, try to describe an arc by rolling left a tad, and then rolling it right and up (or vice versa).

The roll is critical in protecting those fuel tanks! If you pull the stick straight back you're presenting the full width of your wings to the enemy, and trust me, they're aiming for the center to the root of the wing! The more oblique you can make the honey spot for them, the less chance for them getting fuel and spark there at the same time! The same is true for hard banks!

If they're on your six, roll, use a bit of rudder, and come out of the roll either left or right, then roll the opposite way of your turn and come out either left or right.

You can out-dive a 109, but not a 190, so be looking to see which way he went before you break left or right and climb to get some of that energy stored into your plane.

Remember, always cross the guns of the enemy, never turn away from them, as you're actually giving them a better firing solution when you do.

Patience, patience, patience. It's a shark, not a bulldog! Move in quickly, strike, extend, and keep your distance whenever possible.

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 09:30 PM
The Mig-3U is far the best Mig of them all, it has a good armament, and alot of ammo for it to, it flys well to, I can hold my own in fights with 109's and Yaks. But its a flying powder cake, just dont let any of those 109 cannons or Yak cannons get you, trust me you will be burned to a crisp before you hit the ground.

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 09:44 PM
Wetwilly87 wrote:
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- The Mig-3U is far the best Mig of them all, it has
- a good armament, and alot of ammo for it to, it flys
- well to, I can hold my own in fights with 109's and
- Yaks. But its a flying powder cake, just dont let
- any of those 109 cannons or Yak cannons get you,
- trust me you will be burned to a crisp before you
- hit the ground.
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YEAH but, only 6 of them where build so, I like the MiG-3 with the twin SHVAK cannons because, the default armament really is a bit dissapointing.

But, you see them rarely online altough, they look very good.


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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 10:17 PM
Wow some great stuff guys! Thank you all very much & kep it coming. some one must have a favorite kill in this firey *(SP)little vixen.

Hope i get some time tonight to try it out. Certainly have never heard a luft waffle whine about the Mig 3...that means it must really hurt to get shot down by one.

Not that i'm anti-waffle mind you. I like mine with blueberries.

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XyZspineZyX
07-17-2003, 12:14 AM
Flying Bf109F I can kill a pilot (with my level of skills) flying mig (not U) everytime, even at 5000m. There's nothing he can do to gain an advantage. In 109F I'm faster, I bleed much less energy, I climb better, he cannot escape in dive, he cannot stand almost any damage..

The mig is very agile and has excellent roll rate at high speeds (better than 109) but if you perform any maneuver you became so slow you are dead.

So every time I kill a 109 in mig I'm quite happy. (Doesnt happen very often.. :-))

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