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MichaelMar
01-25-2005, 09:56 AM
I know there is a ton of information, on the net, concerning WWII fighter tactics but what are some 'good' books on the subject? I hate jumpping from link-to-link trying to find the information...having a book to read is soooo much more my liking.

THX

Stiglr
01-25-2005, 10:34 AM
I got yer reading, right here, if you can handle it.

Fighter Combat Tactics & Maneuvering by Robert "Mouse" Shaw (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0870210599/qid=1106674390/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-5160054-0249418?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

There is some modern stuff in regards to missiles and radar, but the basics are directly applicable to WWII combat.

Dry reading, but the concepts are spot on.

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-25-2005, 10:41 AM
Dry indeed, but probably the definitive book on air combat tactics (and required reading by the USN btw.)

MichaelMar
01-25-2005, 11:53 AM
Looks like a good book and maybe I will buy it...least check it out.

However there must be some books on WWII fighter tactics that were used that deals mainly with the older planes. You know...like those in a history section of arts/sciences?

THX

nearmiss
01-25-2005, 12:08 PM
Robert Shaw's book is the best...

It covers the subject very well. You can search, but you'll not do better.

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Junkers_Jack
01-25-2005, 12:15 PM
It is a good book to read, but my advice is join a squad if you have not so far, get online with Teamspeak and practice with a more experienced pilot, follow him, stay on his tail (Just like the RAF)learn the evasive moves, especially how to manage the energy of you a/c vs the enemy and in about 10 years all will be revealed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have another 8 to go

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Stiglr
01-25-2005, 02:18 PM
There is also Mike Spick's book on Luftwaffe Fighter Aces, but it's not at the same nitty gritty tactical level. It talks about the techniques like Finger Four, etc., that made the Luftwaffe so seemingly unbeatable early on, and explains some maneuvers in detail....
but still, it is not a book on energy and tactics per se. Shaw's book is the 'bible' of air combat and I don't know of any better.

MichaelMar
01-25-2005, 04:20 PM
So will Shaw's book be just as helpfull for the turn & burn type planes? Or is it mainly zoom & boom tactics?

THX

nearmiss
01-25-2005, 04:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MichaelMar:
So will Shaw's book be just as helpfull for the turn & burn type planes? Or is it mainly zoom & boom tactics?

THX <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My gosh, how many times you gotta be told?

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Bull_dog_
01-25-2005, 08:43 PM
Robert Shaw's book is a must...you'll learn basic tactics, but I think most importantly you'll gain an understanding of the complexity and the quick thinking and almost instinct like reactions good pilots have.

There are no absolute rules but rather action and reaction to other pilots and his book describes and almost infinite number of engagements. The bit about energy vs. angles is particularly useful in this game.

I had been flying for a long time before I read it so I found that over time, I was naturally doing some things but I definitely learned a few new tricks...particularly the part about gaining angles with judicious use of throttle and gravity.