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CTO88
06-30-2005, 07:06 AM
Will there be an Il2Compare for 4.01?

Badly needed!

CTO88
06-30-2005, 07:06 AM
Will there be an Il2Compare for 4.01?

Badly needed!

LeadSpitter_
06-30-2005, 10:22 AM
I hope ross youss will make il2 compair for 4.01. I think 3.01 or 303 was the last version and they said they wont make any for newer versions.

PE_Sraka
07-01-2005, 06:39 AM
I'm really wondering why can't we get a tool such as IL2 compare with the game.

Real pilots, before entering the cockpit and starting up the engine, had to know EVERYTHING about the plane, best climb rate, best climb speed, sustained turn speed, you name it.

JG53Harti
07-01-2005, 11:33 AM
You should read this thread carefully

http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=33745&page=1&pp=25 (http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=33745&page=1&pp=25)

some interessting posts there

CTO88
07-01-2005, 01:34 PM
If read this correct we should ask OM to give us these very useful programm.

Covino
07-01-2005, 03:06 PM
EDIT: btw, can't read Russian so I dunno what was posted before.


From Ivan: please do not accuse anyone if you don`t know all story, thanks.

crazyivan1970
07-01-2005, 03:39 PM
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Translating:

MG_Dimas wrote (lead programmer of MG)
You ca wrtie petition to Oleg, Me and Youss made this ourselves, moved by our own initiative. But except of negative reaction, including from O.M. we did not get anything back. Now he`s not allowing us to do a new version. If Oleg says it`s ok to do it, it`s a piece of cake.

HelSqnProtos
07-01-2005, 10:50 PM
IL2 Compare is the most usefull tool competitve pilots have. Please make sure that its development continues.

JtD
07-01-2005, 10:54 PM
I'd love to see an IL-2 compare for the current FB version.

And I don't agree about the negative feedback, people have always been requesting IL-2 compare when new versions of the simulation appeared and there always were "thanks for IL-2 compare" topics on this very board.

I don't consider this bad feedback only.

Edit: That's what people here think of IL-2 compare:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=5391038432 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=26310365&m=5391038432)

Badsight.
07-02-2005, 02:13 AM
so a version got released after PF was launched ?

jurinko
07-02-2005, 09:34 AM
wonder why Oleg was not pleased by Il2compare. We knew that A-4 doesn饴磘 outlicmb Mk.V, so what?

Hristo_
07-02-2005, 10:32 AM
Like it or not, Il-2Compare was and still is the most useful 3rd party Il2/FB/PF software application for me.

Col.Kurtz
07-02-2005, 11:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> wonder why Oleg was not pleased by Il2compare. We knew that A-4 doesn饴磘 outlicmb Mk.V, so what? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only Speed data from Il2 Compare was correct.
All other Data like Climb and Turn had nothing to do with the real ingame Performance.They where not even relative correct in Aircraft Compare..
So IL2 Compare was completely useless other than speed data.
I think people whined to Oleg and compared Real Test data with IL2Compare data.
Maybe with the new FM for AI Planes a new Il2Compare would be more usefull,but if the data is not correct below 10% its much more a pain than a help..

Badsight.
07-02-2005, 03:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Col.Kurtz:
Maybe with the new FM for AI Planes a new Il2Compare would be more usefull. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
now THAT is a good point

can the AI fly the planes to their maximum like they used too

jurinko
07-03-2005, 12:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Col.Kurtz:

Only Speed data from Il2 Compare was correct.
All other Data like Climb and Turn had nothing to do with the real ingame Performance.They where not even relative correct in Aircraft Compare..
So IL2 Compare was completely useless other than speed data.
I think people whined to Oleg and compared Real Test data with IL2Compare data.
Maybe with the new FM for AI Planes a new Il2Compare would be more usefull,but if the data is not correct below 10% its much more a pain than a help.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree that turn times were off, especially for bombers, but other data were quite precise including climb rates. All those threads about the speed hole in certain altitude should be easily seen.

No3 Spit
08-08-2005, 06:28 PM
Well maybe if Ic released the real FM data it would aleviate the need to ask questions on FM's. IL-2 Compare was a brilliant addition. I hope the concept continues with correct information...even if we don't agree with the FM modelling.

BTW reckon the .50's in the Mustang are ordinary...try a Hurricane MkIIb vs an Emil! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

LEXX_Luthor
08-09-2005, 01:03 PM
Excellent News.

Real life pilots had to test all these planes themselves -- depend on real life test pilots. A PC dogfighter gaming community claiming themselves as "competitive" but too lazy to conduct comparative testing of FM themselves is not worth wasting time developing PC software for. I hope Oleg knows this by now.

quiet_man
08-09-2005, 01:47 PM
an IL2-Compare for 4.01, even with speeds only would be nice

quiet_man

Willey
08-10-2005, 08:20 AM
Bump http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/3.gif