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TheGozr
09-26-2005, 08:56 PM
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/images/screen/japanfoot.jpg

great no? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TheGozr
09-26-2005, 08:56 PM
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/images/screen/japanfoot.jpg

great no? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

p1ngu666
09-26-2005, 08:57 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

carguy_
09-27-2005, 03:11 AM
They play footbal in Japan?

arcadeace
09-27-2005, 03:49 AM
That's not football. It must be j soccer.

nakamura_kenji
09-27-2005, 04:07 AM
friend call it both football and soccer.

thing never understand america call they game football when they very not often kick ball ???0_0???

MEGILE
09-27-2005, 04:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nakamura_kenji:


thing never understand america call they game football when they very not often kick ball ???0_0??? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

nakamura_kenji
09-27-2005, 04:27 AM
sorry v_v

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 04:47 AM
NK has the point. Football (soccer) is game where players play with ball exclusively with foot. Any handballing is prohibited and player may be even expelled form game if he handballs. So there is nothing weird IMHO in calling that name football. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

In Europe everyone says football (in U.S. it is called soccer).

Japanese are very respectable football oponents, I think whoever gets to play against them will have a hard job.
They did well so far in major competitions, and in Asia they are for sure among dominant football nations.

JG301_nils
09-27-2005, 04:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Arcadeace:
That's not football. It must be j soccer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What some people call soccer, is actually football and what other people call football (you know people running around, carrying a ball) is more like Handball. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif in any case, a pagoda in the middle of the field, just adds a new element to the game.
And yes, the do play football (soccer) in Japan, very good as well

nakamura_kenji
09-27-2005, 04:51 AM
J league football never use have draw would keep play till one side score ^_^

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 04:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TheGozr:
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/images/screen/japanfoot.jpg

great no? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now that is something funny. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 04:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by nakamura_kenji:
J league football never use have draw would keep play till one side score ^_^ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That scoring system was also in my country not so long ago... but now we are 90mins only 3pts for victory, draw 1pts, lose 0pts.

How many points team gets for victory in J League? (I presume 2pts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif)

nakamura_kenji
09-27-2005, 04:58 AM
3 = win
1 = draw

stop golden goal get draw now p_q

http://www.j-league.or.jp/eng/

neural_dream
09-27-2005, 05:03 AM
Brits actually invented the word. "Soccer," when it first appeared in the 1890s, was spelled "socca," which was short for "association" or "association football," meaning football played according to the rules laid down by the British Football Association. I'll let you decide why they didn't choose the first three letters of the word Association. It was also called "socker" until the current form "soccer" appeared around 1895.
When the Americans first got in touch with this game they heard the slang name of it. At the moment this sland word is not used at all outside USA.

As for the Japanese football, it became professional very late (1993), but quickly became very competitive. At the moment Japan is ranked no16 in the FIFA rankings, in front of the European Champions and many traditional European football powers.

Ankanor
09-27-2005, 05:08 AM
I bet Japan will beat USA's football team big time. AS for the phalanxball you people play across the Atlantic... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

P.S. Thr pic is darn funny http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

arcadeace
09-27-2005, 05:15 AM
Japan doesn't play US football. Just like Europe Dolphin Dancer. No girly-boys allowed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

nakamura_kenji
09-27-2005, 05:18 AM
no play rugby also but no very good at that

LW_lcarp
09-27-2005, 05:24 AM
Since the US calls footbal soccer and the object of soccer is to kick a ball around a feild wouldnt kickball be a more appropriate name http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

arcadeace
09-27-2005, 05:30 AM
It doesn't matter what its called, we invented it! We don€t even play with a ball, we play with a prolate spheroid. It€s a male thing and purely American. Strategy and big hands, not hard heads, are needed to move it.

Pig_Mac
09-27-2005, 06:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Football (soccer) is game where players play with ball exclusively with foot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there must be severe injuries during those games? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 06:20 AM
Injuries are quite common yes, even some really hard one. iirc Neil 'Razor' Ruddock broke both legs with hard tackle to his teammate Andy Cole during training session. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Also player is allowed to play the ball with every part of his body except hands. But in practice it is mainly down to foot, that is why I said exclusively.

Pig_Mac
09-27-2005, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Also player is allowed to play the ball with every part of his body except hands </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

still leaves out their area of expertice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i actually become a bit interested in american football from playing madden '06.

as a swede i've never been interested in soccer exept the times we play/win the world-championship.

neural_dream
09-27-2005, 07:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Arcadeace:
It€s a male thing and purely American. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not sure about the importance of the latter, but about the male thing i think Rugby (to compare sports of the same category this time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) is much more male http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif.

Ankanor
09-27-2005, 07:52 AM
I found this on the IMDB boards about the new "Green Street Hooligans" movie, football played in the more "original" version
http://www.collectionspicturelibrary.com/folk-f-20e-3.jpg

P.S. Try finding the ball http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Pig_Mac
09-27-2005, 07:55 AM
the only really male sport is watching them b*****s run around on your TV, chasing a blurred ball/puck/[insert object here], and always knowing a lot better way to chase the thingie then the one they just choose.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

sunflower1
09-27-2005, 07:56 AM
Phalanxprolatespheroid= American football.

Something many Europeans may not appreciate is that in the US you cannot travel suburban roads for 5 minutes without seeing a football decal on the left rear window of a minivan, in fact, its iconic enough to be fodder for humo(u)r.

Soccer is quite popular here, simply not commercially and any kid whose imagination is captured by the game has opportunity.

Curious: has the US been adding quality individual players to the international soccer scene?

LeadSpitter_
09-27-2005, 08:01 AM
No wonder why the japanese love baseball, and are **** good players.

OberUberWurst
09-27-2005, 08:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sunflower1:
Curious: has the US been adding quality individual players to the international soccer scene? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No never..

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 08:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sunflower1:
Curious: has the US been adding quality individual players to the international soccer scene? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course. Some really good players form USA are playing in English leagues, also in PSV Eindhoven (Netherlands) and Bayer Leverkusen (German Bundesliga)... etc.

Some of these guys are Landon Donovan, DaMarcus Beasley, Kasey Keller, Claudio Reyna etc.

http://www.donofan.org/Gallery/ConfederationsCup/images/LandonFrance03_28.jpg
Landon Donovan vs Emerson [Brasil] imho best US player that I have watched so far, fast and versatile

neural_dream
09-27-2005, 08:11 AM
of course there have been quality players from the States. They are not Brasilians, but many can (and do) play in Germany, Italy, Holland ...

Pig_Mac
09-27-2005, 08:11 AM
an attempt at selling basballbats during a swedish match of [insert game here] would be charged with instigation of massmurder.

[suburban roads for 5 minutes without seeing a football decal on the left rear window of a minivan.]

i guess our sports arn't violent enough to take our minds on beating up the other teams, their mascot, hooligans, their wives and loot their TV, to prevent them from watching their useless team cheat.

ploughman
09-27-2005, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Soccer is quite popular here, simply not commercially and any kid whose imagination is captured by the game has opportunity. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


One thing I've always been a little perplexed about is that, despite massive immigration from soccer mad nations, the game's not really taken-off in a big way commercially in the states.

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 08:28 AM
Good thing about soccer is that it does not require much, just ball and few players. It is simple game and that is why is so popular in the world.
"Small soccer" is also popular game because it can be played 6 vs 6 players (5 players and one goalkeeper) on half sized pitch (than normal soccer, 100Ӕ50m 11 vs 11 players).

LeadSpitter_
09-27-2005, 08:31 AM
they try ploughman, most of us play from little kids until highschool then give it up and rather watch the women play soccor, it seems a sport better designed for women and as a guy we rather watch bouncing jugs cameltoe and short shorts on women rather then men in tights and speedo shorts like the rest of the world rather watch.

But america is unique that way. All sports are fun to play but not thrilling to watch. The only sport I can watch for a full game is hockey.

Kuna15
09-27-2005, 08:36 AM
LeadSpitter I think you guys there have a tradition in other sports and I think that is why soccer isn't so popular in US.

OC77th-Stone
09-27-2005, 09:28 AM
I tried watching a soccer(football) game on TV once, fell asleep after 15 minutes.
Just something about American Football or Hockey that is more exciting. Great to see someone get knocked on their *** every 30 seconds, or the dropping of the gloves...