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ROXunreal
12-02-2009, 01:25 PM
It's the lamest plane ever.

Whose with me?

Make this one a 20 pager plz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ROXunreal
12-02-2009, 01:25 PM
It's the lamest plane ever.

Whose with me?

Make this one a 20 pager plz http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

AndyJWest
12-02-2009, 01:30 PM
We can make this very short: no it isn't.

Anybody whe agrees with me, don't bother to reply. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Flight_boy1990
12-02-2009, 01:32 PM
Ja...Iz impozzible zo catz it wizz mein mezzea!
Iz zimply impozzible 'coz I zay zo!
Die Izhak ist kaputt...

PS:Sorry couldn't resist,I'm just lagging today. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT:Forgot to add the best source ever,wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_I-185).
There you can see that the ingame I-185 is ubber. ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif )

BillSwagger
12-02-2009, 01:41 PM
Well....

I can think of at least two lamer planes:

Spitfire

Fw-190

Don't get me started on the 46 fantasies either, thats pretty much a given



Bill

ROXunreal
12-02-2009, 01:46 PM
Turns better than a spit

Outruns an FW190

Accelerates better than practically anything

Its armor is probably second only to the Il-2 itself, I've shot multiple 20mm into its cowl, wing roots and fuselage with it flying like nothing happened

Yet never even entered production or tested in combat

I've seen these planes do downright impossible things when compared to other planes, not to mention it's by far the most used aircraft in servers that include it on its planeset, like RCAF for example. Ugh.

Woke_Up_Dead
12-02-2009, 01:49 PM
That plane is fine for a 1944 planeset but not for 1942. There are lots of other planes in the game that only flew in very limited numbers during the war or even not at all, but they don't stand out from their competition the way that the I-185 stands out in 1942. For example, there were only six MiG 3U made, but they can only match the 109-G2 up high and are not good at all down low. Same with the Ta-152, performance-wise it's in the same ballpark as Jugs and Mustangs up high, and only average down low. The Yak 3P only arrived in April 1945, but it's essentially the same plane as the Yak 3 that has been around since late 1943. But the I-185, which never entered production, is greatly superior to other 1942 planes.

Ba5tard5word
12-02-2009, 02:16 PM
It's a fun plane to fly.

Hell to land because its huge and low prop tends to hit the ground if you don't fly in with your nose pointed well up.

The_Stealth_Owl
12-02-2009, 02:29 PM
I never fly this plane.

But I personaly like any plane with at least a 20 mm.

All I need is a MG-151/120 on a good quality airframe with a decent engine and I am happy.

Sillius_Sodus
12-02-2009, 02:46 PM
In our squad we rarely fly the I-185 on our df server because it generally rules the roost. It is fun on racing maps though.

VW-IceFire
12-02-2009, 04:46 PM
It's fun and if I remember correctly the cockpit was designed as a test run for a few of the techniques used for Storm of War... so it was a fun bonus aircraft. Not much use outside of that.

Romanator21
12-02-2009, 06:40 PM
It is an unusually detailed cockpit for a 2.01 aircraft. I think it's also one of the few that are totally compatible with the 6DOF everyone raves about. Other planes have gaps visible at certain angles.

X32Wright
12-02-2009, 10:40 PM
it doesn't specially if SARAHZOOM flies it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Only those long enough in HL would know who she is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BillSwagger
12-03-2009, 02:03 AM
My experience with the 1-185 is that it does perform well but at least it does get shot down easily and i would think is very similar to a La or yak DM in that regard.

I hold my own opinions about Spits, fw 190s, and ta-152s, all of which i also fly and enjoy.

Bill

Slapshot_54
12-03-2009, 09:12 AM
ROXunreal,

What impossible things do you speak of? In my experience, especially in the server you mention, I find the 185s to be easy marks.

Treetop64
12-03-2009, 09:22 AM
In the entire history of this sim, the I-185 is the uberplane of all uberplanes (speaking of conventional planes, not the '46 fantasies). Way, way too damned overmodelled.

Lovely cockpit, though. Probably the best cockpit in the game.

megalopsuche
12-03-2009, 09:26 AM
I love shooting down I-185s with the 109G-2, especially when they start with the advantage.

Slapshot_54
12-03-2009, 09:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by megalopsuche:
I love shooting down I-185s with the 109G-2, especially when they start with the advantage. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Me too.

Even moreso with the K4-C3 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

X32Wright
12-03-2009, 11:32 AM
ORLY??? I consider the I-185 M-71 to be a souped up La5FN that can both TNB as well as BNZ. In good hands it is hard to beat specially its damaging cannons.

It would be nice to test a K-4 c3 vs a I-185 M-71 fight Slapshot.

jermin122
12-03-2009, 10:25 PM
I am just wondering why 20 mm cannons on Russion planes never shake, even a little bit, when firing.

jamesblonde1979
12-04-2009, 08:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jermin122:
I am just wondering why 20 mm cannons on Russion planes never shake, even a little bit, when firing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because in Soviet Russia plane shakes guns!

Ok, just kill me now...

JG52Karaya-X
12-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Dont fly and/or put the clown version (M-71) of this aircraft on your maps/servers then - its as easy as that!

The ordinary M-82 engine variant isnt anything special, in fact it's overall inferior to contemporary La (5F that is) and Yak (1B/9) fighters. The M-71 variant is pure wishful thinking, there was a handful of them made and they constantly had severe engine troubles, IIRC the average flight time until a critical engine failure arose was around 20min. The engine proved to be so troublesome that its development and production was cancelled alltogether, no aircraft ever saw service in great numbers with one of these.

X32Wright
12-04-2009, 11:59 AM
In most account Stalin did not like Polikarpov and his name wasn't Lavochkin or Yakovlev this is why this plane wasn't put on production. It did have 6 missions.

The M-71 engine problem however is true.

JG52Karaya-X
12-04-2009, 12:03 PM
Yes, this story gets repeated over and over again and sure it does have a point, but the definite production I-185 version, fitted with the M-82 simply didnt fulfill expectations. Why put another fighter into production and thus complicate things when there are already proven designs that are better and on their way to be improved even further?

The M-71 version would have never seen serial production, the engine was an unreliable piece of .... and there was no production capacity for it anyway!

koivis
12-05-2009, 08:50 AM
One interesting thing about the plane is its engine. That thing is HUGE. At 3643 cubic inches (59,7 liters), only one aero engine I know is bigger, R-4360. It's basicly two M-63s (developed from Wright R-1820) put together.

Of course, it was later developed to reliable ASh-73, which powered Tu-4 (B-29 copy) and Beriev Be-6 (patrol flying boat), among others.

Saburo_0
12-05-2009, 09:21 AM
I like this plane. Polikarpov bet on the M-71 and it didn't pan out. The M-82 version is somewhat underpowered IMO, but I like these what if planes myself! I use them in hypothetical campaigns or QMBs for soem variety.

My personal wishes are for the Shinden and Reppu though.

rettungferris
12-07-2009, 11:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by X32Wright:
it doesn't specially if SARAHZOOM flies it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Only those long enough in HL would know who she is http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

dude SarahZoom is awesomely good. She kept dropping my sorry booty. I noticed because the line up for red was all spits or LA-7's, sometimes P-51's or P-47's, and then ONE I-185.



But I did learn the value of in and out passes with the me 109. And running whenever that I-185 came in http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

HL is funnage . . . going to get back into IL-2 (work, band practice and holiday get togethers . . . )