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CRONAVY
09-09-2005, 02:30 AM
Does anybody know will they ever build sub simulation on the cold war story with models of submarines like Russian "Typhoon" tip sub (Severstal) or american Los Angeles tip sub. The WW2 story is great but in the cold war you can actuly have missions and many imaginary campagne like hunt for Red October or so...

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CRONAVY
09-09-2005, 02:30 AM
Does anybody know will they ever build sub simulation on the cold war story with models of submarines like Russian "Typhoon" tip sub (Severstal) or american Los Angeles tip sub. The WW2 story is great but in the cold war you can actuly have missions and many imaginary campagne like hunt for Red October or so...

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Goosen83
09-09-2005, 09:15 AM
Well if it had gone hot it would be worth it. But then again, we probably wouldnt be here. Officially the Cold War had no action apart from probably a lot of subs shadowing eachother etc. That's why it was cold.

P.s. Its type not tip.

CRONAVY
09-09-2005, 01:33 PM
right thanks for the warning and you are right about cold war but they could make game where you have missions and something like that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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CannonFodda_99
09-09-2005, 05:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goosen83:
Well if it had gone hot it would be worth it. But then again, we probably wouldnt be here. Officially the Cold War had no action apart from probably a lot of subs shadowing eachother etc. That's why it was cold.

P.s. Its type not tip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There were a few Russian subs (not sure how many yank subs if any) lost in collisions due to their crazy ivan tactics.

Your right though, wouldnt be that much action in the game.

Cannon

FI-Aflak
09-09-2005, 06:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CannonFodda_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goosen83:
Well if it had gone hot it would be worth it. But then again, we probably wouldnt be here. Officially the Cold War had no action apart from probably a lot of subs shadowing eachother etc. That's why it was cold.

P.s. Its type not tip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There were a few Russian subs (not sure how many yank subs if any) lost in collisions due to their crazy ivan tactics.

Your right though, wouldnt be that much action in the game.

Cannon </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You'd make it as a sim with historical equipment but a fictional story. That way you have the subs, you have the sim, and you have the action. It could be cool - sub vs sub rather than destroyer eat sub eat merchantman.

panthercules
09-09-2005, 06:24 PM
There have been a few of these modern sub sims over the years (none lately that I'm aware of) - IIRC one of them was called something like SSN-688 or something - I never really messed with them much for the same reason that I never mess with modern flight sims - I like my computer games (flight and sub sims anyway) to simulate things that were nothing like computer games in real life, but fighting with modern subs and planes in real life is already too much like playing computer games. I like the get close, point and shoot aspects of the WWI and WWII periods much better for my sim-gaming.

GScholz
09-09-2005, 06:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CannonFodda_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Goosen83:
Well if it had gone hot it would be worth it. But then again, we probably wouldnt be here. Officially the Cold War had no action apart from probably a lot of subs shadowing eachother etc. That's why it was cold.

P.s. Its type not tip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There were a few Russian subs (not sure how many yank subs if any) lost in collisions due to their crazy ivan tactics.

Your right though, wouldnt be that much action in the game.

Cannon </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The US and Russia has lost about an equal number of nuclear subs in accidents.

Gunnersman
09-09-2005, 07:53 PM
Check out the title "Dangerous Waters" by Sonalyst. It is not a Cold War sim but it does model modern Subs and ASW technology. You can "fly" SH-60's, or drive Kilo subs. Oh and also look up the title "Sub Command" done by Sonalyst also. It is about 4 years old and has a similar look to Dangerous Waters.
They dont have as much eye candy as SHIII but simulate Sub operations and ASW very well.

CRONAVY
09-10-2005, 04:01 AM
Yo! I would like the Cold war story because I like sub models from that period of time, do you know that russians have 6 Typhoon type subs and that they have 20 nuclear war heads in every ICB and that in every sub is 20 ICB so it means that they have 200 nuclear war heads! thay say they could destroy half of the northern hemisfere. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

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Messervy
09-10-2005, 07:16 AM
6 Typhoons each carrying 20 missiles ( makes 120 missiles).
Each missile contains 6 warheads (makes 720 warheads).

Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

CRONAVY
09-10-2005, 01:11 PM
No, no I have made a mistake I juste looked better its 20 war heads not 6 sorry I made the mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

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Messervy
09-10-2005, 01:42 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CRONAVY:
No, no I have made a mistake I juste looked better its 20 war heads not 6 sorry I made the mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
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O.K. We all make mistakes...

....BUT:
6(six)Typhoons each carrying 20(twenty)ICBMs containing 20(twenty)warheads..............
IS 2400 WARHEADS!!! (not200)
You just might want to edit your post again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

CRONAVY
09-11-2005, 02:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">(six)Typhoons each carrying 20(twenty)ICBMs containing 20(twenty)warheads..............
IS 2400 WARHEADS!!! (not200) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
CHRIST! The Typhoon-class submarine is a ballistic missile-carrying, nuclear-powered (A submersible warship usually armed with torpedoes) submarine (SSBN) deployed by the Soviet Navy in the (The decade from 1980 to 1989) 1980s. With a displacement of up to 48,000 tons, the Typhoon is the largest submarine class ever built. The name stems from the use of the word "typhoon" (Ñ"?'Ñ"ун) by (Soviet statesman who became president of the Soviet Union (1906-1982)) Leonid Brezhnev in a 1974 speech while describing a new type of nuclear ballistic missile submarine. The Typhoon class was developed under Project 941 as the Russian Akula-class (the Russian word for "Shark", although NATO uses the name Akula (ajkula) class to designate Russian Bars-class subs.

Typhoon-class subs feature multiple pressure hulls that simplify internal design while making the vessel much wider than a normal submarine (in the main body of the sub, two Delta-class pressure hulls lie parallel with a third, smaller pressure hull above them). This also greatly increases their survivability - even if one pressure hull is breached, the crew members in the other are safe and there is less potential for flooding.

Typhoon subs are quieter (partly due to the vessels' massive size) and yet more maneuverable than their predecessors. Additionally, the Typhoon class features six torpedo tubes: two are designed to handle SS-N-15 missiles or Type 53 torpedoes, and the other four are designed to launch (Click link for more info and facts about SS-N-16) SS-N-16 missiles, Type 65 torpedoes, or (Excavation in the earth from which ores and minerals are extracted) mines.

Six Typhoon class submarines were built with each carrying 20 R-39 (SS-N-20) missiles R-39 (SS-N-20) missiles with 10 (The warhead of a missile designed to deliver an atom bomb) nuclear warheads each. Originally, the submarines were designated by hull numbers only. Names were later assigned to the four vessels retained by the Russian Navy: Arhangelsk, Simbirsk, Severstal, and Dmitry Donskoi. The construction of an additional vessel was cancelled. Only one of these submarines, Dmitry Donskoi, is still in service with the Russian Navy, as a test platform for the Bulava missile currently under development. All the R-39 missiles have been retired. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif you happy now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Length 175 m
Beam 23 m
Draft 12 m
Displacement Surfaced: 23,200-24,500 tons
Submerged: 33,800-48,000 tons
Propulsion 2 pressurized-water nuclear reactors

2 propellers
Complement 163 men
Armament: 4 630 mm torpedo tubes

2 533 mm torpedo tubes

20 RSM-52 ballistic missiles
Speed Surfaced: 12 knots

Submerged: 27 knots (about 50 km/h)
Maximum Depth 400 m
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juste for you i had to translate half of the book! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Messervy
09-11-2005, 03:20 AM
Sorry I didn`t mean to upset you or give you a homework to do. I just couldn`t contain myself. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

CRONAVY
09-11-2005, 03:44 AM
righ, right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif dont be its my mistake http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

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Pratchbeer
09-11-2005, 08:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panthercules:
There have been a few of these modern sub sims over the years (none lately that I'm aware of) - IIRC one of them was called something like SSN-688 or something - I never really messed with them much for the same reason that I never mess with modern flight sims - I like my computer games (flight and sub sims anyway) to simulate things that were nothing like computer games in real life, but fighting with modern subs and planes in real life is already too much like playing computer games. I like the get close, point and shoot aspects of the WWI and WWII periods much better for my sim-gaming. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well, one very good WW3 Sub simulation is 'Red Storm Rising' from Microprose. I've played this game many times one my Atari ST 15 years ago. The game gives a very good impression on how a modern sub operates.

(Too bad the Germans didn't invent wire-guided torpedos during the war. That would really have made our life as sub-commander easier.)

So if Ubisoft needs a good example ....

Anton_Reinhold
09-11-2005, 08:39 AM
Quoted from GSholz's post:

"The US and Russia has lost about an equal number of nuclear subs in accidents."

Double check that please, becasue as far as I know we have only lost 2 subs, the Thresher and the Scorpion while the Soviets have lost something like 4 or 5 times that number of submarines in the time period from now and going back to say...1950ish.