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doug.d
08-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Woofiedog's great airshow pics inspired me to post some pics from my visit to the war museum. Hope y'all enjoy them. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

First up, some allied planes, starting with the Spitfire F VIII

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/SpitfireFVIII.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Spitfire2.jpg

To finish off with the Spitfire:
The story and specs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Spitfire3.jpg

The Merlin engine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Merlinengine.jpg

Here's a "cut-away" Merlin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/merlincut.jpg

They have a Mosquito but no space to put it, so they've hung it under the roof of the hanger. They've also rebuilt the hanger with solid brick walls so to get it out will require breaking the hanger or the plane. At least there's now a stairway to a viewing platform but no chance of getting distance for a decent picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mosquito.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mosquito2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mosquito3.jpg

The last of the allied WWII planes is the Hurricane MkIIc

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/HurricaneMkIIc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Hurricane2.jpg

The specs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Hurricane3.jpg

I know, I know, I can hear the frustration. "When is Doug going to get to the Luftwaffe?!!!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Maybe tomorrow night, running out of time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif For now, I'll chuck in some oddments.

To train the pilots for the above planes, a Link Trainer used from 1935 to 1953.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/LinkTrainer1935to1953.jpg

Some WWI planes:

Scout Experimental 5a better known as the much respected SE5a

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/ScoutExperimental5a.jpg

A DeH-9

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/DeH-9.jpg

Lastly, a Hawker Hartbees

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/HawkerHartbees.jpg

Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

doug.d
08-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Woofiedog's great airshow pics inspired me to post some pics from my visit to the war museum. Hope y'all enjoy them. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

First up, some allied planes, starting with the Spitfire F VIII

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/SpitfireFVIII.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Spitfire2.jpg

To finish off with the Spitfire:
The story and specs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Spitfire3.jpg

The Merlin engine

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Merlinengine.jpg

Here's a "cut-away" Merlin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/merlincut.jpg

They have a Mosquito but no space to put it, so they've hung it under the roof of the hanger. They've also rebuilt the hanger with solid brick walls so to get it out will require breaking the hanger or the plane. At least there's now a stairway to a viewing platform but no chance of getting distance for a decent picture.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mosquito.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mosquito2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mosquito3.jpg

The last of the allied WWII planes is the Hurricane MkIIc

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/HurricaneMkIIc.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Hurricane2.jpg

The specs

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Hurricane3.jpg

I know, I know, I can hear the frustration. "When is Doug going to get to the Luftwaffe?!!!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Maybe tomorrow night, running out of time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif For now, I'll chuck in some oddments.

To train the pilots for the above planes, a Link Trainer used from 1935 to 1953.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/LinkTrainer1935to1953.jpg

Some WWI planes:

Scout Experimental 5a better known as the much respected SE5a

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/ScoutExperimental5a.jpg

A DeH-9

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/DeH-9.jpg

Lastly, a Hawker Hartbees

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/HawkerHartbees.jpg

Enjoy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

sakai2005
08-24-2007, 04:16 PM
very nice pics thanks.

doug.d
08-24-2007, 04:26 PM
Watch out, here come the Luftwaffe! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

1st up a Bf109F/2 Tropical

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109F2Tropical.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109F23.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109F24.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109F22.jpg

And the story:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109F25.jpg

Another Bf109, this time a Bf109E3 which ran out of fuel over England and had a not-so-soft landing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/CrashedBf109E3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Crashed2Bf109E3.jpg

Its story:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109E3.jpg

Here's the only surviving Me262B-1a-U1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Me262B-1a-U1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Me262B4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Me262B2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Me262B3.jpg

Its story:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Me262B5.jpg

Heck knows where they got this from. A BMW 109-003 turbojet engine from a Heinkel He162A-2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/HeinkelHe162A-2engine.jpg

But, my personal favorite, a Focke Wulf Fw190A-6/R6

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/FockeWulf1Fw190A-6-R6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/FockeWulf2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/FockeWulf4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/FockeWulf5.jpg

Note the 30mm Mk108 cannon in underwing gunpod

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/FockeWulf3.jpg

F0_Dark_P
08-24-2007, 04:44 PM
Thanx, love those photos http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

woofiedog
08-25-2007, 12:45 AM
Excellent job of taking these photo in such tight quarters... they came out Great.

And Thank's for the compliment... Glad you enjoyed the snap shots of the air show.

Again Thank's!

polak5
08-25-2007, 05:46 AM
yes the FW is damned sexy

Heliopause
08-25-2007, 06:13 AM
Great pics doug.d!
The BMW 003 engine was probably received from Great Britain as where the planes. All part of war trophy.
Do you know the engine number?

expextremist
08-25-2007, 06:59 AM
hi there chaps...

apologies if i'm dragging up a long forgotten post, but it is rare to see museum pieces from SA online these days..

I may be open to correction on this.. but i believe that our 109-F may be the last original in the world as well...

and sadly our 262 has been thrashed... if you notice the damage around the empennage... clearly the tail section was removed.. then reattatched. its quite sad, in that we have alot of rare pieces, yet not the funding to look after and maintain them.

for example here in cape town, our AFB Ysterplaat musuem, has the worlds only cut-away 262 engine... and the Smithsonian want it. :-P

good stuff guys!

doug.d
08-25-2007, 03:02 PM
For the IL2 flyboys.

Things you shoot at.

A half-track

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Tankhalftrack.jpg

A T34 tank

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/TankT34.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/TankT342.jpg

.....and things that shoot back at you.

The dreaded '88' anti-aircraft gun/tank killer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/88.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/AAA2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/AAA1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/AAA3.jpg

Something for the Medal of Honour or Call of Duty types - small arms

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Smallarms3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Smallarms2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Smallarms1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Smallarms4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Smallarms5.jpg

Anti-tank rifles

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Smallarms6.jpg

general_kalle
08-25-2007, 05:37 PM
what are the museums called.
and where are they located.
i mean what city

doug.d
08-25-2007, 07:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by general_kalle:
what are the museums called.
and where are they located.
i mean what city </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
All 1 museum; "Museum of Military History" Johannesburg. South Africa.

FPSOLKOR
08-26-2007, 12:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Another Bf109, this time a Bf109E3 which ran out of fuel over England and had a not-so-soft landing.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Bf109E3.jpg
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Something is wrong... E-3 had 3 cannons...

Enforcer572005
08-26-2007, 01:02 AM
The middle cannon was usually deleted as it was too heavy. Very rarely did they use them.

A great collection, and as a photog by trade, let me assure you that the photos are magnificent. Extremely well done. I'm well aware of how difficult it is to take shots like this in such difficult lighting and positions.

I just wish they would put it in a decent bldg. Great armor collection to. Does it have a web site?

BillyTheKid_22
08-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Wow!! Great photo!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

doug.d
08-26-2007, 01:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
A great collection, and as a photog by trade, let me assure you that the photos are magnificent. Extremely well done. I'm well aware of how difficult it is to take shots like this in such difficult lighting and positions.

I just wish they would put it in a decent bldg. Great armor collection to. Does it have a web site? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks on the photos and yes, the website is HERE (http://www.militarymuseum.co.za/main.htm)

The last of my WWII pics may be of interest to the navy-types.

The German Molch (Salamander) 1-man mini-sub with its 2 torpedoes in place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Molch2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Molch3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Molch-Salamandersub.jpg

I used to climb inside many years ago, but now they have a perspex cover over the conn. It's supposed to be see-through but it's so mucky the camera couldn't pick up much inside. You can still make out the toilet seat the poor guy has to sit on though, probably so that he could drive and **** himself at the same time when approaching a target. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Molchcab.jpg

The story:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Molch4.jpg

The British Mark IX D torpedo. It's so long I couldn't get a decent side-on pic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/BritishTorpedoMarkIXD21inch.jpg

It's story

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/BritishTorpedoMarkIXD21inchspec.jpg

Now we'll take a closer look at the guns that kick the butts of our Silent Hunter comrades when their U-boats are caught on the surface.

A single 4-inch Mark IV naval gun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Navalgun4inch.jpg

A twin 4-inch QF Mark XVI turret from a Loch class Frigate

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Navalguntwin4inchLochfrigate.jpg

A Hotchkiss 6 pounder Mark I naval gun used throughout both world wars and typically fitted to Whalers, trawlers and harbour defense boats. Its high angle capability made it usable for surface to air as well as surface to surface.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/NavalgunHotchkiss6pounder.jpg

A 40mm Bofors AA gun on naval mounting

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/NavalgunBofors40mm.jpg

Oerlikon 20mm AA on naval mounting

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/navalgun20mm.jpg

I think WWII just came to an end...

Here's a few random post WWII pics:

A Soviet T55 Main Battle tank (with a Sherman in the background).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/TankT55.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/TankT552.jpg

Some of the SAAF's old planes

An Impala. Originally an Italian Aermacchi manufactured under licence in SA. Currently being replaced by British Hawk trainers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Impala-Aermacchi.jpg

A buccaneer

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Buccaneer.jpg

The Mirage IIICZ. There's still at least one flying at air displays and its dirty old engine is LOUD and has a distinct snap and crackle sound that makes my hair stand up, beautiful! This was a firm favourite of mine which as a kid made me obsess about one day flying a fast jet fighter. Something I finally achieved a few years ago, when I chartered a Hawker Hunter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/MirageIIICZ.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mirage2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/Mirage3.jpg

That's about it. There was more armour e.g. an SANDF Centurion Main Battle tank and various lesser known WWII tanks and armoured cars, also the fairly modern SANDF G5 (static) & G6 (mobile) 105mm cannons but the museum was closing and I didn't snap them.

They used to have a great selection of modern armoured cars donated by the SANDF and the museum prides itself on keeping exhibits in working order. So, our version of the Gestapo came and confiscated them and all live ammo, in case the were stolen by criminals intent on creating mass destruction.

I hope you've all enjoyed my trip to the museum, I know I enjoyed posting the thread.