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Celeon999
08-03-2006, 10:21 AM
Celeon‚¬īs company decided that we will work for some english speaking companys in the future , so we need someone with certificated "buisness english" knowledge. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif



All fingers were pointing on Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Celeon will participate in a 3 month long "Buisness English" training and hopefully will make his "LCCI" exam with certification in the end.

(London Chamber of Commerce and Industry)


I dont want to promise too much but it looks like they will make a real english speaking bureaucrat out of Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif


Celeon goes back to school http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif


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Celeon999
08-03-2006, 10:21 AM
Celeon‚¬īs company decided that we will work for some english speaking companys in the future , so we need someone with certificated "buisness english" knowledge. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif



All fingers were pointing on Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Celeon will participate in a 3 month long "Buisness English" training and hopefully will make his "LCCI" exam with certification in the end.

(London Chamber of Commerce and Industry)


I dont want to promise too much but it looks like they will make a real english speaking bureaucrat out of Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif


Celeon goes back to school http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif


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The_Silent_O
08-03-2006, 01:53 PM
Cel...it's actually quite an accomplishment that you were chosen considering your background. I assume that most children growing up in the Former East Germany didn't have the English Language indoctrination that those in West Germany had. So congrats...

I see you are learning Proper English. After that certification you need to get your American-English certification so you can learn words and phrases like...

"ya'll"
"Git 'er Done"
"Over der"
"ain't"
"c'mon"
"Go Cubs"
"Yankees Suck"
"Soccer"
"Holy Smokes!"
"Holy Cow!"
"Tip" (as in gratuity)
"toilet"
"Baseball"
"Baby Back Ribs"
"Philly Cheese-steak"
"NASCAR"

...the list goes on...

Celeon999
08-03-2006, 02:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
"ya'll"
"Git 'er Done"
"Over der"
"ain't"
"c'mon"
"Go Cubs"
"Yankees Suck"
"Soccer"
"Holy Smokes!"
"Holy Cow!"
"Tip" (as in gratuity)
"toilet"
"Baseball"
"Baby Back Ribs"
"Philly Cheese-steak"
"NASCAR" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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That difference is not so big like the difference between "Hochdeutsch" and "Bayrisch" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Two language worlds collide http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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Realjambo
08-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Good luck Celeon, of any of us Brits can help you out, shout for help (in Queens English of couse!)

Baldricks_Mate
08-03-2006, 04:06 PM
It would be just your luck, with your shiny new certificate, to be detailed off to work with an Aussie company or Aussies.

You'd have to learn the language all over again!

Goodonyamate, get amullet up ya!

Where do you come from?

Kickatinalong

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Goose_Green
08-03-2006, 04:12 PM
Well Celeon, your English now is a million times better than my Deutsch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Mind you, I have been tempted to re-learn German (I studied it for 3 years at school - and was hopeless with at it), With all the hours spent in the cab of my truck I could get one of those Language CD's, I could be fluent in no time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bucketlung
08-03-2006, 04:14 PM
That is the question, will you be learning English or "British speak"? Sometimes when I watch a movie with some genuine British accents like Hugh Grant I am searching my Dvd player for a slow button to slow down the dialogue so I can understand what they are saying.

But that is a great opportunity and when you are done hopefully you can conquer Dutch next.

VikingGrandad
08-03-2006, 05:39 PM
Celeon - good luck with the course - I'm sure you'll do well... Your English is better than that of some English people I know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Perhaps you could even impress your tutor by showing him/her the 3200+ forum posts you've written in English! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

U301
08-03-2006, 05:47 PM
Good Luck Herr Celeon!
But all you need know is German/English.
Torpedo Loss!
KUrtz.

tuddley3
08-03-2006, 06:39 PM
You didn't mention anything about more $, does Celeon get a raise? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Backdraft57
08-03-2006, 07:51 PM
Great. Perhaps your company can get folks here in America to push English. Everything here is going Spanish!

Gmuno
08-04-2006, 12:15 AM
Have fun with it, Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
My authority decided i should do as deputy sys.admin. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif They can stick it up their trackans! This pile of **** will never be mine, someone else will get his head torn of at a regular basis but not me!
Other lectures you need for your work are not granted (Wos willsdn du mit an Lehrgang fer die neia ”ěnderunga im LStVG? Des kannster a selber beibringa!) and now they shall seek someone else http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Celeon999
08-04-2006, 03:19 AM
Thanks guys http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Celeon will do his best. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

To the question what kind of english Celeon will learn....not sure.

They just said that the lecturers are british AND american and that the english will be a allround usable english and so it will be no clear "Cambridge English". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon will receive more ‚"ö¨ for possbile additional working hours that might be connected with this.

Luckily this means not that Celeon will have to deal with the bureau work. We have some people there who are good enough in english.

But its something different to just write or read english letters and e-mails than actually speak it, understand it, be able to answer,translate quickly and so on.

Its more that Celeon can easier and better communicate with the people we will work for directly at the constuction sites which is absolutely vital. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Gmuno
08-04-2006, 03:33 AM
Explaining german social-laws to a sheep-shearer from New Zealand is also quite educational http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

joeap
08-04-2006, 04:12 AM
Well Celeon, I used to work for a private language school teaching English mostly to people working in banks, multinationals, and international organisations (I am based in Geneva and work at one now myself, not the UN but an NGO) and folks from many countries. Not many Swiss as they usually speak really well. I am Canadian BTW so am familiar with both types of English (even know a bit of Aussie etc. now that's confusing for foreigners) so here's another person who you can ask, we taught for passing Cambridge exams as well as for business.

Celeon999
08-04-2006, 05:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Explaining german social-laws to a sheep-shearer from New Zealand is also quite educational </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Or tax laws http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Or try to explain to him how to register a car in germany http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> so here's another person who you can ask </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Expect that i will make use of your (and from all the others) offer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

baggygreen
08-04-2006, 05:03 AM
BM has got it spot on. Only the poms speak english. Americans... strewth half the time i reckon its easier to nod, smile, and back away slowly without looking in their eyes... they're a frightening mob! and as for kiwis.... well.

Im trying to get up an extreme degree of fluency in Indonesian for the degree i'm studying at uni, I know the basics but for what we need for this degree (leads to intelligence work) its bloody tough. And i got a gift with languages, too, i know japanese and french already!

good on ya, good stuff that!

thedoctor44
08-04-2006, 06:00 PM
I should think proper(UK/British)English is easier to read - some words I would think are easier to assertain the prenounciation of. Why don't American's like the letter U?

Kaleun1961
08-05-2006, 10:49 PM
Business English? Oh God. I hate the idea already. You'll have to learn all sorts of jargon and the current buzz words that pretentious wannabe CEO's use: pardigm, touch base, fast track, blah blah blah. I feel sorry for you.

Acunnon
08-06-2006, 03:10 AM
Learning a new language is not all that hard to do. What you realy need is to learn every day english and you need to learn to think in english. I know it sounds hard but doing those two things will make learning more specialized english easy. Though considering your massive number of posts (and they are very clear) I would think the class is but a mear formality.

Celeon999
08-15-2006, 08:29 AM
Celeon had his first lessons today http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


One of Celeon‚¬īs lecturers comes from the UK, his name is "Ben".

He said that Celeon‚¬īs english sounds very american like and asked me if i, maybe, lived there for some time or so....


Just in the moment in which Celeon would blame all on Silent_O‚¬īs "friggin" american writing style ( http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif ) he was forced to read and assimilate .... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

....He made http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif and said that this is much harder than speaking british english... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

For a non native speaker that is..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Celeon999
08-17-2006, 11:04 AM
Today we entered the wonderful world of grammar http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif


Celeon still has problems with "present simple" and "present continous"

Its tricky somehow...


Some verbs who are supposed to be stative verbs arent stative in german so its a really cool source for making mistakes when youre not thinking in english http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Its also confusing that the english grammar is full of rules that get instantly broken even by native speakers and nobody really cares http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

bunkerratt
08-17-2006, 11:17 AM
i guess it would be a little like "high german" and "low german" it also depends where you are speaking ...souther folks speak a little slower...upper east coast is a almost differant speach...here in the uppermid west ..we also speak a little differant .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif...i also used to laugh my a .s.s. off while i was in the service .listening to eastern block tank units trying to communicate..20 diff versions of russian garble and nobody could talk to the other guy...as they all drove around smartly .......

Celeon999
08-17-2006, 12:10 PM
Celeons other teacher "Michael Monroe" comes from Scotland (He‚¬īs a real funny guy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ) and he also mentioned that you can find equally much different accents in english like in german. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Communication can be a complex thing even between people from the same country. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Celeon999
11-12-2006, 07:28 AM
Tomorrow is Celeons examination http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/93/dancinggeekzf7.gif

Im nervous about the oral part.

I have to speak about a certain topic and answer questions but i cant choose the topic. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Possibilities are :

- Earning a living

- Production and sale of goods and services

- Trade

- Money

- Transport

- Communications

- Education

- Travel and tourism


I have no idea on some of thse topics http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

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Celeon is good in the high profession of senseless bla bla to cover up his lack of knowledge but will it be enough ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Why i have painted my plane red ? It would be unfair if they couldnt recognize that it is me who they are up against.
Everytime i shoot down a brit my hunting instinct is satisfied for another 15 minutes.

The Red Baron - Freiherr Manfred von Richthofen

Bootsmann0815
11-12-2006, 07:49 AM
Good luck with it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

If in doubt start talking about military/submarine examples - like trade: sale of 212 class subs... Puts you on familiar ground in terms of vocabulary and knowledge http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Use the vertical!

hueywolf123
11-12-2006, 08:03 AM
Try Australian English, just to confuse you even more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Realjambo
11-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Good luck Celeon, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif let us know how you get on!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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VikingGrandad
11-12-2006, 06:10 PM
I hope the exam goes well Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Celeon999
11-13-2006, 08:05 AM
Im just back from the examination and quite satisfied. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I could had been better though.


The oral exam topic was "mobile phones" so it was real easy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Others got topics like "international business" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif which is really hard

Lucky me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


In the written exam Celeon had to write a memo about work safety aswell as heatlh and efficiency. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

The second task was a business letter and third task was to write a list.

List sounds easy but isnt if youre no native speaker and have to write the list from the perspective of a salesman assistant and your infos are written out of the perspective of a costumer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif


I aimed for a "pass / distinction" but i think it will be "pass / good" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Dont know ....maybe im lucky and its enough for "distinction" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Why i have painted my plane red ? It would be unfair if they couldnt recognize that it is me who they are up against.
Everytime i shoot down a brit my hunting instinct is satisfied for another 15 minutes.

The Red Baron - Freiherr Manfred von Richthofen

Psychfilm
11-13-2006, 08:17 AM
Congratulations. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I'm sure you did great. It is very difficult, at least for me, to learn another language. In high school it was a year of Spanish I, then when I found out that Spanish II wanted me to remember things from Spanish I, I switched to French for a couple of weeks and than gave up. I would imagine it would be even more difficult to learn it for business. My hats off to you.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Michiel_88
11-13-2006, 12:48 PM
Congratulations Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif, I hope you have distinction.

It was easier for me to learn English than to learn German, with all those Nominativ and Akkusativ and Dativ and Genitiv http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif and all those other possible thingies you have to take in account. I still can't write a decent text in German. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Celeon999
11-13-2006, 01:12 PM
Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif


Yes thats confusing isnt it ?

Nominativ , Akkusativ, Dativ, Genetiv .......Idiotiv http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ive tried french in school but all this future proche, passe compose , accent circonflex...... thats was too much for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

My french knowledge consists only of things that would get me a clap in the face by a young mademoiselle http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Why i have painted my plane red ? It would be unfair if they couldnt recognize that it is me who they are up against.
Everytime i shoot down a brit my hunting instinct is satisfied for another 15 minutes.

The Red Baron - Freiherr Manfred von Richthofen

Michiel_88
11-13-2006, 02:16 PM
Yes, for Dutch-speakers french is a pain in the donkey too. Must be those Germanic &lt;-&gt; Romanic languages differences.

I always thought english was very simple, once you get hold of the verbal system, the rest is mainly vocabulary.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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