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marcus763
04-20-2004, 02:23 PM
Hi, can anyone reccomend a good LCD monitor or which features I should be looking out for. I'll probably go with Sony and would like a 20" model (yes I've seen the price!) Thanks in advance for any help/advice...

marcus763
04-20-2004, 02:23 PM
Hi, can anyone reccomend a good LCD monitor or which features I should be looking out for. I'll probably go with Sony and would like a 20" model (yes I've seen the price!) Thanks in advance for any help/advice...

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-20-2004, 02:31 PM
I can highly recommend Samsung. I currently use the 192N 19" viewable and will be using a 213T in another month. Mine has worked very well for me for over 6 months with no issues.



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arcadeace
04-20-2004, 03:08 PM
I have an NEC Multisync but initially got a Sony, I returned it because the backround illumination was quite distorted. The guy at CompUSA told me Sony had more than average LCD returns in the past. He did say the current models are a completely new product line, my experience may not be an indicator. NEC has a solid reputation as well as Samsung, I have read good reviews on the 192N.

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tigerroach
04-20-2004, 03:34 PM
I dearly love my 17" Sony, have had it about 2 months now. I was also impressed with Samsung when I was shopping.

No way will I ever go back to a CRT.

D-XXI
04-20-2004, 10:13 PM
I don't have a TFT yet but I'm advised that for games like FB that require fast screen build-up's, CRT are better then TFT's.

What is your experience on that?

MAstaKFC
04-21-2004, 01:09 AM
I recently bought a 17" LCD TFT and have mixed opinions about it in FB. Everything looks fine, but when I fly over forests at high angles and look down, the trees sort of look 'flashy' ie as if some one is turning them on and off really fast with a switch. Hmm, have the refresh rate and all thos the same at 1280X960
=(
But other than that, its fine

Capt.LoneRanger
04-21-2004, 01:47 AM
Had to buy a new monitor lately and decided on a TFT.

A lot of tests are around and a *lot* of false or inaccurate theories or test-parameters. One Example: ReactionTime.
It is often said, that the faster the better, monitors with 25ms and more is useless for games.

That is not true.

The test is the measured time, a single pixel needs to display a black color (0,0,0) and then a pure white (255,255,255) and then back to (0,0,0). But the time that is listed as "Reaction Time" is only the time needed to reach 80% of the needed color. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif
Besides that, a far more challenging test would be the transition from one level of grey to another and the time that is needed to match that color 100%.

Numbers of colors is another point.
You gotta keep in mind, that a TFT is only capable of showing 16bit colors, a little less, to be exact.

I decided on a BenQ 767-12ms. It is a 17" monitor with an excellent contrast (500:1) and a very nice and clear picture. Besides IL2FB I play UT2004, AAO and BF and I seldomly, saw something that was LIKE a blur. It turned out, I got my refreshrate locked at 60 Hz =) - (You don't see it flickering anymore on tft, but you may notice the lower refreshrate during fast movements - with 75Hz I never, ever noticed any blury effect)

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Skarphol
04-21-2004, 02:24 AM
Hi!

I bought a Samsung SyncMaster 172T last summer, and I am very pleased with it. The contrast factor is very important, and 500:1 as it is on this monitor is giving the screen very good, sharp pictures. The Reaction time on 25 ms is absolutely good enogh for gaming.

My uncle bought a SyncMaster 192 T in february and he says he is very pleased with it. He uses it for engeneering, not gaming, so I don't know how usefull that piece of information is..

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marcus763
04-21-2004, 06:22 AM
Thanks, all useful comments to hear http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

choxaway
04-21-2004, 07:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:

Numbers of colors is another point.
You gotta keep in mind, that a TFT is only capable of showing 16bit colors, a little less, to be exact.
Capt.LoneRanger

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Are you saying that although I'm running my Sony 17"TFT in OpenGL 32bit, I'm only seeing 16biT?


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BpGemini
04-21-2004, 08:07 AM
I have a Samsung 17" LCD Flat Panel 1280x1024 monitor.
It's a good monitor.

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choxaway
04-22-2004, 03:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by choxaway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:

Numbers of colors is another point.
You gotta keep in mind, that a TFT is only capable of showing 16bit colors, a little less, to be exact.
Capt.LoneRanger

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you saying that although I'm running my Sony 17"TFT in OpenGL 32bit, I'm only seeing 16biT?


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bump


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marcus763
04-22-2004, 06:22 AM
This is the spec for the monitor I am currently looking at....

Display Type Flat panel display / TFT active matrix
Enclosure Colour Grey
Compatibility PC
Diagonal Size 20.1"
Viewable Size 20.1"
Max Resolution 1600 x 1200
Response Time 25 ms
Image Brightness 250 cd/m2
Image Contrast Ratio 500:1
Image Max H-View Angle 170
Image Max V-View Angle 170
Analogue video Signal RGB
Digital Video Standard Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
Interfaces 1 x VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ¦ 1 x DVI-D - 24 pin digital DVI
Compliant Standards TCO '03
Cables Included 1 x video cable
Power Device Power supply - internal
Power Consumption Stand by / Sleep 3 Watt
Service & Support 3 years warranty
Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 3 years


The Response time and contrast ratio are 2 of the things I've been told to look at, this doesn't seem like a bad display ?

Marcus

marcus763
04-22-2004, 11:48 AM
Bump...

adlabs6
04-22-2004, 11:55 AM
I have a Sharp LL-T17A4, it's great. 20ms response time, enough that I can't see any blurring that affects gameplay. Easy on the eyes too, and with a headphone jack on front!

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GSNei
04-22-2004, 09:22 PM
You should check out the current issue of Maximum PC - it reviews a batch of current LCD's soley on how they perform in gaming. They actually give the winning nod to the Dell 20" Ultra Sharp.

Allygash
04-23-2004, 01:22 AM
Just get the Dell 2001fp, the one GSNei mentions getting the nod from maxpc. I have it its the best gaming lcd period...

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