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Fastr77
10-28-2007, 08:58 PM
http://darkush.blogspot.com/

yeah.. thats the authors website, they arnt publishing the book, very disapointed..

Fastr77
10-28-2007, 08:58 PM
http://darkush.blogspot.com/

yeah.. thats the authors website, they arnt publishing the book, very disapointed..

Thanatos-death-
10-28-2007, 09:03 PM
wow...that sucks...

Rade88
10-28-2007, 09:10 PM
Omg... that is such complete and utter bull****. Why don't any of the historical films that deal with religion ever get targeted for this kind of thing?

The simple fact is, this franchise is based on historical facts, and so religion has to be there whether someone likes it or not.

Spykes_wab
10-28-2007, 09:11 PM
Weak....

Kaxen6
10-28-2007, 09:15 PM
Darn!

Though out of all the ways a book could be stopped, I never would have expected the descendants of the real assassins to pop up...

Fastr77
10-28-2007, 09:16 PM
yeah.. it's bull****.. they will make a game based on it but will back down when it comes to the book? wtf. I'm considering not buying the game now, just to show them they should give the gamers what they want, not just back down like chickens.

FrozenFire550
10-28-2007, 09:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fastr77:
yeah.. it's bull****.. they will make a game based on it but will back down when it comes to the book? wtf. I'm considering not buying the game now, just to show them they should give the gamers what they want, not just back down like chickens. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

....Hahaha...as if they'll even notice "OH GOD, ONE PERSON DIDN'T BUY OUR GAME! WHAT WILL WE DO NOW? *publishes 20 books*"

Anyway,

KlNDRED
10-28-2007, 09:19 PM
Screw that, the ladie at the book store told me they'll have it october 30 and I intended on getting it on that day.

Fastr77
10-28-2007, 09:21 PM
hahaha moron how do you know it would only be me?

Aphelion7
10-28-2007, 09:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KlNDRED:
Screw that, the ladie at the book store told me they'll have it october 30 and I intended on getting it on that day. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No kidding this is ****! This source can't be for real... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

*Does more investigating....*

EDIT: It looks like the blog just came out yesterday so I bet no bookstores are going to even know yet! This sucks... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I was so looking forward to that... everyone was like... you're going to get a book... and actually READ it!? lol!

KlNDRED
10-28-2007, 09:43 PM
The hell with this, lets write our own book:


Once upon a time, Altair was flying by when he saw Montferrat. He killed him and the war was over.

The End.

Its not the book but its a start Damnit!!!

BellumetPax
10-28-2007, 09:44 PM
You know, for all the reasons for something to not be released this is by far the coolest reason. Whoever thought that descendents of some secret assassin sect would pop up and ask them to reconsider? That is pretty sweet in my book. Now I dont even care about that book. Ha Ha. I still cant believe it.

LFox
10-28-2007, 09:48 PM
All i can say is i'm not surprised. Companies like Ubi don't stand up to these complaints or threats.

Do yourself a favor and get the game before they decide they can't sell that either. My wouldn't that be a wonderful waste of time if that happened?

utfluke
10-28-2007, 09:51 PM
This smells like a publicity stunt. It's just a little too far fetched for a relatively unknown group to target a videogame, have the video game still be published...and yet, as a concilation prize, have the tie-in paperback killed by the publisher (no pun intended).

Prediction - after the publisher gets their 15 minutes from this minor story, they will come out with a "redacted" copy that will have been "vetted" by "experts" to appease everyone.

What. A. Crock.

Freefall69
10-29-2007, 03:17 AM
Jeese Yeah! Let to just pray they dont get the game stopped too!

Malmer_DK
10-29-2007, 03:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">considering </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
****. I guess I'll be looking forward to a refund one of these days from Amazon then.

Ammario
10-29-2007, 04:58 AM
LMFAO!!! I think this is a joke or something cause we all should already know [SPOILERS] that we are playing as Altair's descendant in a machine that sees into his genetic memory. They probably did this as a joke and as a way of getting attention to the book.

And if it really isn't being released then i think someone should leak a PDF of the book by accident *cough*

Rade88
10-29-2007, 05:15 AM
It's pathetic is what it is. These 'descendants' want all religious references removed from the game? Er.. hello!? This franchise is based off of historical fact, if they took out the religious references then they're not writing it according to how it happened in history.

I bet Dan Brown never had this problem when he wrote The DaVinci Code or Angels and Demons, which actually features a descendant of the Assassins. It's only ever when it comes to game franchises that there's a problem, and it's not fair. Games should be considered as much of an art form as anything else http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Royal.Mist
10-29-2007, 06:04 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fastr77:
yeah.. it's bull****.. they will make a game based on it but will back down when it comes to the book? wtf. I'm considering not buying the game now, just to show them they should give the gamers what they want, not just back down like chickens. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol I agree with the other guy. you're an idiot. don't buy the game and watch Ubisoft backdown.

Darkeye321
10-29-2007, 06:12 AM
what book?never heard about it..........

b-busher
10-29-2007, 06:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Darkeye321:
what book?never heard about it.......... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I did, but I could care less about it.

Iam8_Bit
10-29-2007, 07:15 AM
I don't know about you guys but if a descendant of the Hashashiyyin asked me "nicely" to not publish the book and "to please reconsider" I would keep my doors locked real tight and buy some bear traps for all my windows and doors. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

b-busher
10-29-2007, 07:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mordraneth:
I don't know about you guys but if a descendant of the Hashashiyyin asked me "nicely" to not publish the book and "to please reconsider" I would keep my doors locked real tight and buy some bear traps for all my windows and doors. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif I was thinking that too.

moqqy
10-29-2007, 07:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fastr77:
hahaha moron how do you know it would only be me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because you and maybe max. few of your friends would be smart enough to skip a game because they didn't publish the book?

DeadCorpseAC
10-29-2007, 08:48 AM
****. I was going to buy it next week. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

ScytheOfGrim
10-29-2007, 09:00 AM
Moqqy you forgot one word: Genius. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I hate how people that lack common sense come and attempt to make themselves seem learned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
These people are coming to shut down a whole three-book project without even looking into it.
They said that they wanted more respect for their ancestors... people are writing three books about them that you haven't even read through dimwits.

Oh God... it is so sad and displeasing for me to see that it is always people that have some ties with Muslims that carry out these ignorant actions... I feel so insulted... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

DeadCorpseAC
10-29-2007, 09:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
Moqqy you forgot one word: Genius. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

I hate how people that lack common sense come and attempt to make themselves seem learned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
These people are coming to shut down a whole three-book project without even looking into it.
They said that they wanted more respect for their ancestors... people are writing three books about them that you haven't even read through dimwits.

Oh God... it is so sad and displeasing for me to see that it is always people that have some ties with Muslims that carry out these ignorant actions... I feel so insulted... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe they want to keep themselves in secret. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

ScytheOfGrim
10-29-2007, 09:10 AM
Ha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Well if they showed up and made a commotion about a book... then... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
They must suck at social stealth! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

DeadCorpseAC
10-29-2007, 09:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
Ha! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Well if they showed up and made a commotion about a book... then... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
They must suck at social stealth! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

deskpe
10-29-2007, 10:52 AM
this is stupid, i bet theres been loads of books that have insulted people, or even disrespected some ancestors. i bet tyhis would never of happend if it was a historian that wrote the book

MeAltairLol
10-29-2007, 11:10 AM
Man, this sucks... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Oh and, (not trying to be racist), Darkeye321, what do you think about Muslims and religion in this game... Are you offended? Sorry, don't reply if you don't want to.

Iam8_Bit
10-29-2007, 11:15 AM
Actually the Muslim religion is a beautiful and peaceful faith. It is really is too bad that radicals tarnish it's message and twist the Qur'an for their own ends.

Of course the same can be said of any of the major religions through out history. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

AirRon_2K7
10-29-2007, 11:18 AM
I'm a muslim, and if it effected (affected? I always get the two mixed up...) by this game, I'd tell you. It's sort of like a german complaining that Call of Duty is horrible and disrespectful. But it's a nice gesture from the team to try and keep everyone's interest at hand.

Sandwarrior1990
10-29-2007, 11:33 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

How can they ban just one book that may offend people of a certain religion and let the hundreds of other books, games and movies that are still out there..?

seems pretty stupid to me &gt;_&gt;
especially when Assassin's Creed is relatively historically accurate when it comes to the people who died http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

meeeeeeeeh!

Rade88
10-29-2007, 11:43 AM
I don't see how anyone could be offended by a story that is based off of something that actually happened. It's not like they're making it up. This was a war between Muslims and Christians and besides, the Assassin's aren't even supposed to belong to any one religion &gt;.&gt; They kill people from both sides.

All we need now is for the Vatican to come along and say something -_-

moqqy
10-29-2007, 12:01 PM
Historically, the Assassins had a religion. AC team is making alot of stuff up.

DeadCorpseAC
10-29-2007, 12:01 PM
Am I the only atheist here?

Greenman2000
10-29-2007, 01:04 PM
this was on the 27th of october the book comes out the 1st of November im sure the would have sent the books by now and had it published i still goin to the shop and hopefullyr the have it
Edit:*goes on play.com looks at date which said 1st November but now says 3rd December NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*
http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/3390451/Assassin-Cre...ook-One/Product.html (http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/3390451/Assassin-Creed-Book-One/Product.html)

AirRon_2K7
10-29-2007, 01:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeadCorpseAC:
Am I the only atheist here? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably not, but you're the only one that made a post to ask the question.

DeadCorpseAC
10-29-2007, 01:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AirRon_2K7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeadCorpseAC:
Am I the only atheist here? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably not, but you're the only one that made a post to ask the question. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I did the question because you were talking about Muslims and Christians. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Iam8_Bit
10-29-2007, 01:44 PM
I am agnostic but respect that people have their own system of beliefs and try to educate myself on the various faiths so I am just a non-believer and not ignorant. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

My take on why they are reconsidering the book is that a Muslim group is pressuring them and the fear that some kind of retaliation may occur is likely a deciding factor if not the deciding factor.

NOXER36
10-29-2007, 02:46 PM
That sucks! I was actually looking forward to reading! Guess I should cancel my order on amazon

spazzoo1025
10-29-2007, 04:56 PM
lmao i love how he's all like "still got paid for the first one though..."

KlNDRED
10-29-2007, 08:15 PM
Im getting it tmrw
Nuff said. Indigo promised.

Devtek
10-29-2007, 09:20 PM
Its still posted on all the Canadian book store websites, I'm gonna go check the World's Biggest Bookstore tomorrow. And to the guy who says it changed to a Dec release date.. Play.com is a British site not North American its realistic to assume the release date will be different there.

Fastr77
10-29-2007, 09:23 PM
i've checked numourus sites and none of them say anything about it being canceled but the date on the blog was just a couple days ago.

almost none of the sites that have it have a corresponding release date tho, from target.com, amazon, walden books, barnes and noble, sim and shaouster or whatever.

Devtek
10-29-2007, 09:29 PM
I swear I saw Oct. 30th on Amazon 5 min ago. Now it says Dec 1st.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Fastr77
10-29-2007, 09:36 PM
really? because over the past few days i've only seen dec 1st on amazon.. only a couple sites listed it as oct actually, target being one of them, now i don't even see a date on there

Greenman2000
10-30-2007, 02:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Devtek:
I swear I saw Oct. 30th on Amazon 5 min ago. Now it says Dec 1st.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>all i can say is told ya so

LST01
10-31-2007, 07:57 AM
Just a matter of days I think that the original 'raw/reviewed/uncensured' version will popup on the internet as an PDF file http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Byebye!
L

Iam8_Bit
10-31-2007, 10:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LST01:
Just a matter of days I think that the original 'raw/reviewed/uncensured' version will popup on the internet as an PDF file http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Byebye!
L </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thief! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

KlNDRED
10-31-2007, 04:19 PM
yea the guy at the bookstore told me it is "temporarily unavailable"

maybe they wanna release it with the game?

DanielModica
11-01-2007, 03:02 AM
no offence to anyone, but how to indians find out about assassins creed and especially ancestors. sif they would know that their ancestor is an assassin. they could be making it up, and why not stop the entire game? maybe they are just hardcore nerds and want to pay not read...

i dunno i think this book should be released.

yehonatan.roth
11-01-2007, 04:34 AM
Darn http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

jonavoly
11-01-2007, 07:01 AM
**** the indians, they cannot tell ubi not to bring out the book because of religeon because if they did that they would be acting on religeous precidence and forfeit fact for fiction. If this is supposed to be respectful for their 'Ancestors' they have gotten one thing wrong, the Hashashin were probably proud of their religeon. Just because the great great great grandsons arent doesn't mean they have any right to change fact.

BRING OUT THE BOOK OR SOMEONE *cough* Aga khan *cough* IS GOING TO GET HURT
(Reserve the right not to get in trouble if he does die)

jonavoly
11-01-2007, 07:06 AM
They cannot seriously claim to be respecting their ascestors by censoring this. Their ancestors were probably proud of their religeon. Just because these jokers arent doesn't mean they can have it censored.

SUGGESTION: SOMEONE GETS THIS BOOK BACK ON THE MARKET OR ELSE SOMEONE *cough* Agha Khan *cough* IS GONNA GET HURT

(reserve the right of immunity if he does get killed, there are plenty of people who would do it...)

Hollywood_009
11-01-2007, 04:55 PM
bull**** i bet it comes out i think is a rumor that everybody is getting all worked up over nothing

Hollywood_009
11-01-2007, 04:58 PM
i just checked the site it isnt cancelled but hte site says it wont be out till December and the next one wont cone out till......2030??? wtf

Fastr77
11-01-2007, 06:21 PM
what site are you referring too?

twistedesthetic
11-05-2007, 02:25 PM
Amazon mentioned that the first book is coming out Dec. 1, 2007. And the second around Dec. of 2030. Didn't mention anything about being cancel.