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Waldo.Pepper
12-29-2009, 12:21 AM
Wacky Germans. You may get a chuckle out of them. Or not.

Credit where credit is due. Collection of images posted to alt.binaries.pictures.military by Dave Keaton.

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Waldo.Pepper
12-29-2009, 12:21 AM
Wacky Germans. You may get a chuckle out of them. Or not.

Credit where credit is due. Collection of images posted to alt.binaries.pictures.military by Dave Keaton.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-1.jpg

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waffen-79
12-29-2009, 12:34 AM
Some of them are begging to "caption me"

Ba5tard5word
12-29-2009, 12:40 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-7.jpg

"The new recruits they send are younger and younger every week..."


Ok that was a bit too easy.

orville07
12-29-2009, 02:19 AM
Wow.....Who said genocidal mass murdering NS B*stards are humorless?

I confess I chuckled at the one with the bear/signposts, but then swiftly remembered that they tried to enslave my country and would have murdered anyone they didn't like or approve of as perfect....which slightly diminished the 'fun factor'.

na85
12-29-2009, 02:39 AM
Nothing says bad-*** like lighting your cigarette from the pilot light of a flamethrower.

JG52Karaya-X
12-29-2009, 02:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by orville07:
Wow.....Who said genocidal mass murdering NS B*stards are humorless?

I confess I chuckled at the one with the bear/signposts, but then swiftly remembered that they tried to enslave my country and would have murdered anyone they didn't like or approve of as perfect....which slightly diminished the 'fun factor'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, just by looking at these pictures you can see that all of these men are "mass murdering NS Bastards"? You must have quite the insight into people then!

Could people for one second just forget the political bullcrap and just look at these pictures the way they are?

Feathered_IV
12-29-2009, 03:21 AM
All I vant is Piece!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-17.jpg

orville07
12-29-2009, 03:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52Karaya-X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by orville07:
Wow.....Who said genocidal mass murdering NS B*stards are humorless?

I confess I chuckled at the one with the bear/signposts, but then swiftly remembered that they tried to enslave my country and would have murdered anyone they didn't like or approve of as perfect....which slightly diminished the 'fun factor'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, just by looking at these pictures you can see that all of these men are "mass murdering NS Bastards"? You must have quite the insight into people then!

Could people for one second just forget the political bullcrap and just look at these pictures the way they are? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fair comment to a point Karaya, and no I am not of the "All Germans are Evil" school of thought, which is clearly ludicrous. Never said they were. I have many German mates, 5 in my squadron alone (I'm English) and you couldn't meet nicer people http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Maybe you are right though....The Waffen SS were just fun loving party type guys at heart really, and very much misunderstood.

@Feathered, LMAO mate (G'day, Biggles07 from Simhq ROF forum here, good to read that Squid sorted yer problem http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif ) that cap was good stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

gorillasika
12-29-2009, 03:53 AM
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-18.jpg
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look, it's really easy: You just take a sip of this vodka, wave this flag a while and look what comes out of your a$$!

Feathered_IV
12-29-2009, 05:54 AM
Hi Biggles. Yep glad to be back in the air. This ones for you. I read it in one sitting.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/Feathered_IV/IPooFortheFuror.jpg

Feathered_IV
12-29-2009, 06:24 AM
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/Feathered_IV/PartisanKitten.jpg

Scolar
12-29-2009, 06:39 AM
That giant soldier is possibly the scariest man to ever meet in combat. I would literally brick it if he ran towards me with a bayonet.

Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-29-2009, 06:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-8.jpg

109 cramped cockpit myth exploded! Ace pilots 'Noobs' Nooberman and Heinz Soop pose for the cameras.

p1ngu666
12-29-2009, 07:08 AM
reminds me after playing alot of ww2 games that german soldiers arent just for shooting in the face. they where/are people too. nice to see some humor too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ingame ofcourse they still need tobe shot in the face http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

FlatSpinMan
12-29-2009, 08:03 AM
Nice to see these pictures and be reminded that they were by and large normal people.
And that giant - my god!

megalopsuche
12-29-2009, 08:06 AM
http://classicfun.ws/wp-content/uploads/blitzkrieg-when-you-only-stop-for-kittens.jpg

Low_Flyer_MkIX
12-29-2009, 08:41 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/SA.jpg

thefruitbat
12-29-2009, 09:07 AM
hahaha, funny thread, thanks for posting.

Feathered_IV
12-29-2009, 09:12 AM
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd119/Feathered_IV/afewgoodmen.jpg

Jaws2002
12-29-2009, 09:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scolar:
That giant soldier is possibly the scariest man to ever meet in combat. I would literally brick it if he ran towards me with a bayonet. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd be more afraid of the little guy. Bigger targets are always easier to shoot. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now, if I had no ammo..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

LEBillfish
12-29-2009, 09:50 AM
Great finds Waldo!

K2

Manu-6S
12-29-2009, 11:19 AM
It's funny until you remember that many of them probably died in a very bad way...

Not talking about politic here, I mean they were young men. Damned war.

Uufflakke
12-29-2009, 11:25 AM
German Stunt Team:

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Stuntman01.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/Stuntman02.jpg

Uufflakke
12-29-2009, 11:29 AM
By the way, nice find Waldo! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I found a link with dozens of Third Reich Funny Photos:

http://forum.axishistory.com/v...=23&t=9122&start=765 (http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=9122&start=765)

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/SackRace.jpg

Woke_Up_Dead
12-29-2009, 06:42 PM
Ah yes, those whacky Germans. Here is another photo of them laughing and apparently having a good time: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/GermanPoliceTormentingJew.JPG

There was another one I saw of uniformed SS-men laughing and having a good time with axes over a Polish partizan. That one is at the museum in Aushwitz. Speaking of which, here are some pictures of Dr. Mengele and other camp staff smiling, laughing, and having a good time, ha-ha-ha: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...amp-guards-play.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-482691/Day-Auschwitz-The-laughing-death-camp-guards-play.html) To paraphrase that article, even morally bankrupt and illimitably cruel people are able to laugh, joke, and be whacky.

Rjel
12-29-2009, 07:08 PM
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll155/Rjelmiles/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-13.jpg

When I was a little kid we had neighbors who's cattle gave each other piggy back rides like that too. Or at least that's what my folks told me they were doing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Choctaw111
12-29-2009, 07:42 PM
It is always nice to see the lighter side of military service http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

jarink
12-29-2009, 07:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-15.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only is he a good wingman, he's also my BEST FRIEND! http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

jarink
12-29-2009, 07:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Woke_Up_Dead:
Ah yes, those whacky Germans. Here is another photo of them laughing and apparently having a good time: </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I suppose this means you take the blame and responsibility for every crime ever committed by anyone from your country?

What the Nazis did was horrible. However, you seem to ignore the fact that the majority of German soldiers were not Nazis and didn't commit crimes against humanity.
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Feathered_IV
12-29-2009, 08:16 PM
No, stop right there. The majority of German soldiers did nothing to oppose Naziism and their nation's crimes against humanity. Their lack of moral courage is unquestionable.

Thank you Woke_Up_Dead for providing a balanced view.

jarink
12-29-2009, 10:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Thank you Woke_Up_Dead for providing a balanced view. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, we should be thanking Waldo.Pepper for posting these pictures in the first place to provide the balanced view. They show these soldiers as what most of them were: soldiers serving their country. If you want to blame Germans for turning a blind eye to Naziism and it's crimes, then you should also be questioning why all the nations of Europe didn't join together before September 1939 to eradicate the Third Reich even though it's crimes and intentions to eradicate Jews, Slavs and other ethnic minorities were already well known.

If we were talking about the military leadership, I'd agree with you. But put yourself in the shoes of a typical infantry conscript or a 13-year old flak helper and see if things might look different.

Rjel
12-29-2009, 10:39 PM
Our history would be a lot less bloody if more of mankind had had the courage and foresight to recognize evil for what it was in time to stop it. Unfortunately, few of us were, are or ever will be that capable.

Ba5tard5word
12-29-2009, 10:52 PM
I think it's better to be reminded that the Nazis were just average humans..."the banality of evil" and all that. It's really easy to pretend that people like the Nazis were inhuman savages driven by bloodlust and propaganda, but at the end of the day they were humans, and we shouldn't forget that because what they did, and what any average German soldier did, could be done by anyone.

If anything these photos are more chilling and weird and illustrative of the potential failings of any human much more than they make light of savagery and tyranny.

AndyJWest
12-29-2009, 10:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
I think it's better to be reminded that the Nazis were just average humans..."the banality of evil" and all that. It's really easy to pretend that people like the Nazis were inhuman savages driven by bloodlust and propaganda, but at the end of the day they were humans, and we shouldn't forget that because what they did, and what any average German soldier did, could be done by anyone.

If anything these photos are more chilling and weird and illustrative of the potential failings of any human much more than they make light of savagery and tyranny. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sadly true.

I'd add, however, that the reason the pictures were so funny in the first place was the contrast between the common humanity of thi soldiers, and the system who's uniform they were wearing. Had they been GI's or Tommies, the images would have hardly been worth commenting on.

LEBillfish
12-29-2009, 11:41 PM
gawds......"that guys"....

K2

Friendly_flyer
12-30-2009, 03:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
Our history would be a lot less bloody if more of mankind had had the courage and foresight to recognize evil for what it was in time to stop it. Unfortunately, few of us were, are or ever will be that capable. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Words of wisdom there, Rjel

KRISTORF
12-30-2009, 04:34 AM
Great pics Waldo, and great to see the lighter side of military life (as Choc said)

Question though, why can we not have a thread that is lighter and with no nasty content without it being turned into a 'the nazi's were evil' etc?

We know this and most accept it, but just for once can we also acept there was a lighter side to the Axis allies?

Manu-6S
12-30-2009, 04:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
Our history would be a lot less bloody if more of mankind had had the courage and foresight to recognize evil for what it was in time to stop it. Unfortunately, few of us were, are or ever will be that capable. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And who decides what's "Evil"?
They though they were right. IMO these are empty words.

Some examples (OT)?
Pollution, deforestations, double standards about civil rights (according if the criminal govern is a "friend" or not).

I know that industry is moving in China and India because there the labour cost less... and in the meanwhile our workers get fired.

"The Globalization" they say.

Now the people who protested years ago against this there called anarchics and also terrorists.

So is "the Globalization" a Good thing or a Bad thing? Is good for the rich people and bad for the normal people... but you know world is ruled by the rich ones.

Evil is hate, and hate is created by injustices... The injustices that we are making now (the root of terrorism) and those made by our ancenstors after the WW1 (who created the Nazi).

Skoshi Tiger
12-30-2009, 05:03 AM
This photo's just go to show that the German soldier was just and average Human Being. For me the scary thing was that all those atrocities were carried out by average people.

We ALL have it inside of us to do those things.

On thing that I think is remarkable about humans is that we can talk ourselves into believing anything or let ourselves be talked into believing things we want to. Its part of our nature to want to believe we're right! (and there is nothing you can say to make me believe otherwise http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Every so often it's important to step back from what you are doing and ask yourself if it's the right thing to do.

Unfortunately for the poor old average German solider by the time they worked out it was a bad thing to do the momentum of the Nazi movement pulled them along with it.

What would happen to a soldier if he refused to carry out an order? (and "just following an order" is NEVER a justification performing an evil act!)

It is a situation that I am very thankful that I have never had to be in.

In the Australian culture it was considered an honour to buck authority and tell your superior to Rack-Off if they gave a stupid or bad order (One of the privileges of being a volunteer citizen solider). I don't think that part of the German culture of the time.

RSS-Martin
12-30-2009, 05:14 AM
Ever wondered why very very few from Germany particapte here? Not that they do not know of this forum, but comments like some of the above....not that the past is forgoted, but maybe the pointing of fingers "Germans=Nazis" is not exactly an encouragement to particapate.
If you dig long enough you would find also plenty of nasties commited by other nations too. But who would get the idea, to asociate generations that where born long after those terrible things happened, to be of the same mentality or even put them on the same level as those who did those crimes?
A shame that light hearted threads seem next to impossible when the focus is not on those who where fortunate to be on the winning side.

Some should give that may be some though.

But my guess is this will fall on deaf ears.

Uufflakke
12-30-2009, 07:25 AM
And another thread f*cked up and hijacked.
Thanx Woke_Up_Dead... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Your avatar reminds me of this funny image by the way.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh195/Uufflakke/GermansCows.jpg

robtek1957
12-30-2009, 07:47 AM
I think this pointing out of atrocisms against humanity should be done only from people whose country didn't participate in any!!!
That excludes almost any country i know!!!
As a matter of fact i couldn't name one right now without research.

rnzoli
12-30-2009, 08:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skoshi Tiger:
This photo's just go to show that the German soldier was just and average Human Being. For me the scary thing was that all those atrocities were carried out by average people.

We ALL have it inside of us to do those things. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
+1 and on top of this, the more some peoplein here preach othrers on the high morale etc., the more worried I am about what THEY want to hide inside...

Interesting photos, there is certainly always a lighter side of the service, in all armies, even today.

Rjel
12-30-2009, 08:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Manu-6S:
And who decides what's "Evil"?
They though they were right. IMO these are empty words.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was speaking more in terms of recognizing the roots of the evil, such as those who's maniacal dreams lead the rest of us down the wrong path.

As to who decides, I guess I don't know either. That's why I said most of us don't have that ability. If I did, I wouldn't be wasting my time sitting here explaining it to you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

AWL_Spinner
12-30-2009, 09:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And another thread f*cked up and hijacked. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Too true. Those who so easily take offence at the possibility of viewing some individuals in the WWII German military as humans first and uniforms second should sit down one rainy weekend and read through "The Forgotten Soldier". Not every smiling eighteen year old is dreaming of atrocities against humanity.

If these were all Luftwaffe pictures I bet there'd be no complaints, because all pilots were virtuous and all soldiers were evil, right?

Not wishing to add to the thread hijack, sorry!

Manu-6S
12-30-2009, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Manu-6S:
And who decides what's "Evil"?
They though they were right. IMO these are empty words.
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As to who decides, I guess I don't know either. That's why I said most of us don't have that ability. If I did, I wouldn't be wasting my time sitting here explaining it to you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tiger wrote a good statement:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Every so often it's important to step back from what you are doing and ask yourself if it's the right thing to do (fix: to do for myself AND for the others). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Every decision we take should be REALLY evaluated on its collateral effects.

Instead we go direct to our goal... don't care of the people we're stomping (ex: "Lets bomb Afghanistan!", "Lets bomb IRAQ!".. next?).

The old "Don't do to others what you don't want others do to you": It's utopia, I know...

PS: Be clear, I'm not defending Nazi regime, and in the same way I'm stating that TODAY we are taking decisions who will affects our future in a grim way.

TS_Sancho
12-30-2009, 11:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This photo's just go to show that the German soldier was just and average Human Being. For me the scary thing was that all those atrocities were carried out by average people. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree. We are all capable of savagery.

I enjoyed the photos, but found them sad and a little chilling for reasons others have already stated.

Good find Waldo!

Metatron_123
12-30-2009, 12:09 PM
I won't commment on anything but the profoundly intriguing nature of these humorous photos, especially the blitzkrieg/kitten combo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

What are those soldiers wearing in that photo that looks like glasses?

Also I wonder what that SS officer is shouting at the American private.

Thanks for posting!

Muddy17
12-30-2009, 05:56 PM
I find it odd that a person or persons in these forms would jump up on a soap box over this mans post to get all up about something we all know happend 70 years ago and if you despise it so much what the heck are you doing playing a game about it.????!!!????????

by the way I did find it funny [the post that is]
And I thought political nonsens was not aproved

Woke_Up_Dead
12-30-2009, 07:04 PM
Really? Waldo posts some pictures of German soldiers laughing and having fun and all is good. I post some pictures of German soldiers laughing and having fun and all of a sudden the thread erupts with banalities about not all Germans being Nazis and all German soldiers being human. I don't understand...

Here are some more pics of German military men having fun and laughing during the war.

Forced labour is a hoot:

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/poland/Kazimierz/PodgorzeGhettoLabor.jpg


These Wehrmacht soldiers are certainly having a good time:

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/dachau/SoldiersLaughing.jpg


Shaving a dude with a pen-knife, haha, what a lark!

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/NA002058.jpg?size=67&uid=8985382D-DF27-4481-AFE9-0C105A8CA1E6

Muddy17
12-30-2009, 09:58 PM
Your missing the point, None of us have to come here to see how rotten the Germans were or here anybody elses opinion about it. Not what these boards are for. I do not see any problems with the original post and did not see the need to hijack it for anti-nazi propoganda when we all know what they did.

If you have no interest in WWII then leave or dont post

Maico_249th
12-30-2009, 11:14 PM
Stop bringing everyone down with your political BS. I give a damn about politics. The pics are fun and great pictures. Yes, its a shame that Germany did bad things. Its a shame that Americans (I happen to be one) did bad things. EVERYONE does bad things in times of war. These are pics of Young men having a good time. Reminds me of my time in the service. WWII is over by a long shot. In this forum we just want a good time. We are not interested in political Bull. Stop throwing your prejudice around and think of all the people you will hurt. I have friends who's parents fought with Germany. Are they bad people? NO. And don't dare think these people or that people are all bad people. That would make you a bigot. Fly the planes read the posts and enjoy or else look away.

Maico_249th
12-30-2009, 11:20 PM
"No, I am telling you. ITS A BOY!"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/humour/better/Dontyouguyshaveanythingbettertod-16.jpg

orville07
12-30-2009, 11:31 PM
Muddy, WokeupDead is perfectly entitled to provide a counterbalance and some context/reality to all this "Jolly Japery", and I am with him 100%. I love a good laugh as much as the next bloke, but sorry I don't generally find grinning SS/Totenkopf murderers particularly funny; wokeupdead is merely pointing out what these kind of people found 'funny' and the sort of 'hilarious antics' they enjoyed, and I salute him for it.

I tend to get a bit emotional about this as I was born with a disability which means had Germany subjugated Britain I would certainly not even be here. I would have been quietly disposed of. What a laugh, eh.

And as to any pseudo-intellectual musings about the 'Nature of Evil'....Please, give me a break. I am not interested in your moral relativism and some on this forum in the past have even come across as borderline apologists. BS, most normal people can see stark, abject Evil for what it is.....No dissertation required.

It has nothing to do with 'Germans', and anyone who thinks they are somehow wicked as a people are f*****g idiots. It is entirely about a wicked and perverse ideology called Fascism/National Socialism. The Germans were will not be the last.....It is a human problem.

I can't really bring myself to laugh at many of these photos, because I know what passed for humour in the 3rd Reich. But that's just me, and there you have it. Britain along with many European countries sadly has its Fascist elements too. To them I say watch your back, it will happen over my dead f****g body, but more likely yours.

Exuent.

AndyJWest
12-30-2009, 11:50 PM
As I suggested earlier, it is the fact that these photos are of German soldiers that makes the images so incongruous. Of course they weren't all psychopathic mass murderers, but were they not in Wehrmacht uniform, the 'joke' wouldn't work. Military uniforms have a purpose beyond camouflage and identification: anyone wearing one is identified with the system he is fighting for. This is one of the tragedies of war, that it reduces people to abstract representations of 'the state' or whatever. The pictures demonstrate how false this is, but they don't change the reality of war one bit.

Tully__
12-31-2009, 12:18 AM
Enough. People are getting too hot under the collar over what was intended in a light hearted manner. While I understand that some are sensitive to this, there was no ill intent in that post. None of them could be construed to have anything like the connotations raised by WokeUpDead. Orville, I see only two SS patches in that first post (maybe 3).

I'm not going to try changing anyone's opinion as I see no opinions that need changing, however I am going to close the thread.