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flysgliders
05-29-2006, 01:28 AM
Hi there folks, I am a huge fan of this game, particularly the bombers. I haven't played in About a year or so as I am on a working holiday in Australia. But I remember about a year ago while perusing these boards, I came across images of if not all then the vast majority of stations in a b29 that someone had modeled I was greatly excited by this, convinced that it was only a matter of time before I would be cruising at 25000 shooting down fighters all around me. I have read many threads on heavies but no one has mentioned the B29, was this a figment of my imagination or does anyone else recall seeing these pics?

flysgliders
05-29-2006, 01:28 AM
Hi there folks, I am a huge fan of this game, particularly the bombers. I haven't played in About a year or so as I am on a working holiday in Australia. But I remember about a year ago while perusing these boards, I came across images of if not all then the vast majority of stations in a b29 that someone had modeled I was greatly excited by this, convinced that it was only a matter of time before I would be cruising at 25000 shooting down fighters all around me. I have read many threads on heavies but no one has mentioned the B29, was this a figment of my imagination or does anyone else recall seeing these pics?

FritzGryphon
05-29-2006, 01:37 AM
You are not going crazy, someone was working on a B-29. It was never finished.

flysgliders
05-29-2006, 01:42 AM
Thanks gryphon, its a shame, from what I remember it looked pretty near complete.

Taylortony
05-29-2006, 02:25 AM
I thought it was finished but was a copyright issue or something along those lines?

You should not really have gone to Aus you know, we Brits sent hundreds of them there on so called working holidays in years gone by http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

WTE_Googly
05-29-2006, 04:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
I thought it was finished but was a copyright issue or something along those lines?

You should not really have gone to Aus you know, we Brits sent hundreds of them there on so called working holidays in years gone by http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And the brits thought it was a punishment http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Ashame, a B-29 would have been fun, what with the radar gun system they used and all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

luftluuver
05-29-2006, 04:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Googly:
Ashame, a B-29 would have been fun, what with the radar gun system they used and all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All guns except the tail gun were aimed and fired remotely by a set of gunners. There were four gunner sighting positions, one in the extreme nose operated by the bombardier, and three at the position in the waist where the rear pressurized compartment was located.

Reflector gunsights were placed at each of the four gunner's sighting positions. Each gunsight was wired into the electrical system, and it sent electrical commands to direct and fire the guns. In order to direct the guns, the gunner operated the sight by grasping two round knobs on either side of the sight. The sight swiveled horizontally at the base and the upper section rotated in elevation by a forward and backward twisting of the wrists. The sighting mechanism included an incandescent light source that projected a pattern of dots upward through a lens from inside the sight. This pattern was focused onto a piece of clear glass as a circle of bright dots with one dot at the center. By twisting the right-hand sight knob back and forth, the gunner could make the circle of dots shrink or expand. There was a dial on the back of the sight where the wingspan of the attacking aircraft could be set. With the computer switched on, a target could be tracked smoothly. Gyroscopes scanned the enemy plane's wingtips, and those electrical signals were sent to the turret, allowing it to lead the target and to elevate the guns to compensate for range. The right-hand knob had a "dead-man" switch which consisted of a metal flap which was spring-loaded to hold it out at a 30 degree angle. It had to be held down by the palm of the hand or else the turret would not activate.

Kocur_
05-29-2006, 07:44 AM
What luftluuver means is there was no radar in B-29 defence system. I find the discripion above confusing a bit about thoes dots and "tracking". Gunner set target wingspan, which was telling computer about size of target, and sorrounding target pic with those dots by twisting right knob was telling computer angle made by distance from tip to tip at the distance to target. Thus computer had x of triangle and the angle, so via simple trygonometry was able to calculate the y, i.e. distance to target. Gunner was tracking target by keeping central dot on it, thus giving computer data on target's angular movement. Combination of those enabled computer to compute lead.

JG301_nils
05-29-2006, 08:08 AM
The B-29 was modelled and finished both exterior and interior, but the cockpit(s) were not accepted by Oleg AFAIR. Models were done by 174th_Kami (I believe) same modeller that did the Fw200 Condor (he also finished the cockpits for that too, but they too weren't accepted) and the H8K Emily. Great work, but alas for reasons I don't remember, they were not accepted. This was in the time around the release of PF so maybe too many things were going on at the same time....

WTE_Googly
05-30-2006, 12:39 AM
Sorry yeah I did mean remote, not radar. Been reading a thing about a B-29 raid (can't remember where sorry) in my "Take Off" series of magazines, in which the Bombardier describes targeting enemy aircraft. He just had to track the target, and the lead would be computed for him, amazing stuff, although it did not go into how the system worked, thanks for that detailed description luftluvver!

flysgliders
05-30-2006, 05:57 AM
Thanks for the info lads, as for tony and sending people on 'working holidays' being Irish myself I know all about the sort of holidays the brits send people on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif Any way shame about the lack of big birds, I would of loved to zip over an enemy base at 100ft and V.N.E droppping 20,000lbs . Used to make missions where AI planes would do this, makes quite a mess of the base.

LEBillfish
05-30-2006, 08:07 AM
Ki-45 just missing a B-29

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/untitled.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/IL2/X1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/IL2/X4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/Kaytoo/IL2/X2.jpg

SithSpeeder
05-30-2006, 08:21 AM
My neighbor was a 19 year old radio operator on a B-29 during the last 2 years of WW2 and then for the first couple years of Korea.

On Sunday, he and his wife opened his footlocker for us and showed us the memorabilia they kept from those times and it was amazing. Original pictures from his bomb group, manuals, awards, his dress hat and cap, newspapers of all the key events (e.g., Pearl Harbor, D-Day, V-E Day, V-J Day, etc.), pictures of his friends (and girlfriends...his wife tolerates them, LOL--there were a good number of pictures of her as well).

I asked if I could scan some of the pictures and they readily agreed. Unfortunately, my scanner is down right now (bulb burned out), but the replacement just arrived (just gotta make time to do it.

I told him about how we can "skin" planes and fly them virtually online and he smiled and thought that was cool. I told him I would give a go on his plane and that also brought a smile.

He told me a few stories, too.

* _54th_Speeder *