View Full Version : HOTAS Cougar

03-02-2005, 02:26 PM
Just had to tell someone that mine was delivered today - Wife just doesn't get it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

03-02-2005, 02:35 PM
Good for you mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

03-02-2005, 03:02 PM
Tell us what you think, what other sticks have you tried and how does it compare?

03-02-2005, 03:43 PM
I'm quite satisfied with mine - got it about 3 month ago as a personal christmas present for myself - boy was I surprised - guess that's the one good thing of Alzheimer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The stick and quality is excellent, but honestly, if I've had the choice, I'd bought a CH-HOTAS. I'm still tempted sometimes, to use my old Fighterstick GP again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

03-02-2005, 04:22 PM
loving mine. check out this site if you haven't for lots of good info on anything you want to know.
I'm in the process of modding mine similar to the Uber Ultra cougar that you will find in the mods section.

03-02-2005, 04:46 PM
I love the throttle and software programming. I found the stick unusable unless you fly jets or bombers. There are some very good mods to vastly improve this but they are atleast as expensive as the original stick.

03-02-2005, 05:13 PM
Well - LOMAC is alot more enjoyable... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I will have to work on my IL2 mapping - Thanks for the link Ibhskier37 -

Chivas - Mods?

03-02-2005, 07:21 PM
I had plans on a Cougar until the price of the X45 lured me away. I still may end up with one just to try at least.

03-02-2005, 07:48 PM
The only mod most people need is to remove the rubber boot from the base of the stick and replace it with on made from cloth, I use part of a old sock for this. Without this it feels way to stiff for prop sims.

03-03-2005, 01:02 AM
The mod's replace the stiff springs and gimbals for a much smoother movement thru the axis. You can check them out the "œber II Nxt" and others at


03-03-2005, 02:50 AM
with original set of TM hotas cougar, u get problems PRETTY soon, i had to wait 2 months after some spikin started to appear, no matter if i cleaned the potentiometers etc. it worns out really fast, loses paint, in 4 months my first cougar was out of order, could not fly anymore with it, cos had to use 40% deadzone because of spiking, potentiometers worned out in that condititin, and had to make some "latenzy" to get those enrmous spiking effects away, well, quarantee chance to new set of cougar, i though i just had "monday" version of it first, but no, same **** happened with second set. big gap worned on stick center, and pots worned out. i returned cougar set to shop and demanded my moneys back because it didnt reach the quality expectations which has been hyped about it. well, got my moneys back and invested them righway on CH Fighterstick and CM pro throttle, both USB, been satisfied since that, been using there for over 2 years now without problems, with simped rudder pedals. can make accurate shooting.

well, i have friend who modded his cougar with bi money, those uber mods and etc, still, he has
problems with cougar. i will never invest my moneys on TM or guillemot products anymore.
there were rumors about cougar that it was just advertisement model of cougar which then bigger bosses in TM demanded to put on markets. that they planned to make it to be good quality, but they got greed and didnt finish the job they started.. Cougar would have come Excellent but, owners wanted money, and got their fingers burn cos of it.

my tip for Virtual pilots is not to buy TM hotas Cougar, but set of CH products, those things last, even as they are plastic made.

03-03-2005, 03:09 AM
I wish you better luck.

For $300 Cougar IMO it is very bad stick out-of-the-box. I was quite satisfied for few months although the stick force was way too heavy from the beginning, but after that problems begin to rise. Contuinuos disconnects, spiking pots, big center-play as it quickly weared out bugged me out, but throttle-pot-cooking 2.04 software and 3 months waiting for spare part was enough for me. I turned to Saitek hotas and never looked back.

Sad thing is that I also bought Simped gameport pedals who need Cougar, so I still have Crapgar as an "adapter" for my pedals.

03-03-2005, 03:09 AM
I only had two joysticks in my life, a Thrustmaster F16 Hotas that lasted forever. Had to replace the springs a few times otherwise it was just fine. New operating system made it impossible to map the F16 so the Cougar came to my €œcockpit€ a few years ago. Thou the learning curve is long and the springs feel a bit strong in the beginning I haven€t had a problem with it so far. I just hope that they will produce 64 bit drivers for it so that it will continue to be with me for as long as it lasts. We have a X45 Saitek in the house to but€¦.