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Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 03:32 PM
I'm thinking about getting this game. I got a couple of questions.


1: Is this game hard? I know it's hard becuse it's a sim, but is it super hard?

2: How good is multiplayer?

3: Is there a chat syetem?

4: Can multiple players be in a b17?

5: Is there a good phicis syestem?

6: Off Topic: What's the biggst plane in the game? What plane can take the most damage?

striker-85
05-22-2007, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
I'm thinking about getting this game. I got a couple of questions.?

If you like WWII Combat Flight sims this IS the best there is IMHO.


1: Is this game hard? I know it's hard becuse it's a sim, but is it super hard?

It is as hard or easy as you make it, you can select the level of realism.


2: How good is multiplayer?

I think it's great. There a some really good servers out there.


3: Is there a chat syetem?

Yes, chat bar in game and I use TeamSpeak for voice communications.


4: Can multiple players be in a b17?

No, B-17 is not flyable. In co-op missions though many players can get together and man the guns in a player flyable bomber.


5: Is there a good phicis syestem?

Yes.


6: Off Topic: What's the biggst plane in the game?

Hmmm, the B-29 maybe?


What plane can take the most damage?

The Ki-27... LOL I don't know but it sure seems like it at times http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif...

major_setback
05-22-2007, 03:50 PM
Get the game. It's the best game in the flight sim world, even if you don't fire the guns. The flight model (physics) is just right, especially down low, where there evenn seems to be ground effect modelled (air cushioning between wings and the ground prodicing extra lift).
All planes have different flight model.
You can't fly B17s, you can't man any of the posts in a B17.
You can fly a TB3 - big russian plane, or a Mitchell, He111, Ju88, Betty, or many smaller planes (the B29 isn't flyable) like the Beaufighter, Pe2, A20.

Multiplay is wonderful - chose between quick dogfight servers or more difficult servers. Lots of people online are very experienced though, and you will find it hard to keep up at the start - quite hard.
The game is quite hard to learn, but with practice you will have fun and learn quickly.

You can chat during online play, or even use teamspeak to talk to your team mates.

You will have alittle difficullty with this game if you've never flown a flight sim before (CFS2, CFS3, Microsoft, Lock On etc) but don't let that put you off. It is fun from the start, even for a newcomer.

Welcome. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Huxley_S
05-22-2007, 03:50 PM
You need a good computer and a decent joystick with a twisty grip.

SeaVee
05-22-2007, 03:53 PM
The overall answer to the question is yes - absolutely you should get Il2 1946. One of the best combat flight sims made and a "must have" in my opinion for anyone that likes combat flight.

1. Can be hard at higher flight model settings and (user-adjustable however) and against the good human opponents in multiplayer and even the AI (artificial intelligence) planes if you are new to flight games. Like anything else, as a rookie you are at a big disadvantage up against veterans.

2. Multi-player system is superb. Also cheat free as far as I can tell.

3 -6 I will let others answer.

Again, overall its a great game but you must be willing/able to invest a bit of time learning it and setting it up to get the most out of it. Most decent combat flight games are FAR more complex than console games for X-box or playstation.

Also you need a decent PC to get the best "eye candy" and performance out of these kinds of games.

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 03:55 PM
Do you need a joystick?

major_setback
05-22-2007, 03:55 PM
Yes, get the version of the game called *Sturmovik 1946*, this has everything released until now, you can patch it up to the most present version of the game and hav eeverthing there is to get, including all graphics improvements and new maps (flyable areas) and aircraft.

Xiolablu3
05-22-2007, 03:57 PM
If you like WW2 games then you should certainly get IL2:1946 (You get the whole series when you buy 1946) and play it online.

It is hard but there are easy settings if you really want them, right up to invulnerable where you bounce off the ground if you hit it.

You dont NEED a joystick to play it (You CAN play with keys) but you really do NEED a joystick if you want to play it properly. Keys just cannot control a plane properly. Ask around on the forum for the best cheap joystick if you just want to get one to try the game out. If you have a gameport and use ebay then I can offer some suggestions to get a very good cheap stick.

If you are willing to learn how to fly a WW2 fighter, and are interested in WW2 then definitely buy it.

If you like the Battle Of Britain scenario and like to play single player then Battle OF Britian : WIngs Of Victory is worth a look too.

WHat sort of games are you usually into? Tell us your favourites. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

major_setback
05-22-2007, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
Do you need a joystick?

Not necessary, you can fly without it, but you would be advised to get one, its more realistic, fun and easier!!

You need one with a twist grip, where the twist works the rudder.

With a stic´k the plane feels like a part of you, moves become natural, you will never get that feel without a stick, and anyone you come up against in multiplay (or even AI computer controlled planes) will have an advantage.

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 03:59 PM
Are there any demos availbe?

Xiolablu3
05-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Only very old ones I think.

But it may help you decide.

The game looks much better now and has nearly 300 flyable planes. Take a look at some of hte screenshot threads for how the game looks now.

VW-IceFire
05-22-2007, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
I'm thinking about getting this game. I got a couple of questions.


1: Is this game hard? I know it's hard becuse it's a sim, but is it super hard?

2: How good is multiplayer?

3: Is there a chat syetem?

4: Can multiple players be in a b17?

5: Is there a good phicis syestem?

6: Off Topic: What's the biggst plane in the game? What plane can take the most damage?
1) I wouldn't say its super hard. In single player there are many different settings such as being invulnerable or having unlimited ammo or complex engine management (with this off things are very simple) and so forth that you can turn on and off. Online you have to go with what the server settings are. There are plenty of servers with different settings so you can adapt to whatever you like the most.

2) Multiplayer is very good to excellent depending on what kind of games you're used to playing. Somewhere around 40-50 servers typically available plus co-operative sessions running all the time. Some servers are on constantly while others are just for tournaments. You can usually pack 30-40 people in a typical dogfight server while the number is a bit less for co-operative missions.

3) Chat system? As in text? Yes thats built in. Voice communications is done using TeamSpeak or Ventrillo (I almost always use TeamSpeak).

4) The B-17 is not a flyable aircraft but some others are. The B-25J is fully flyable and mannable at all stations. Minor snag is that the pilot must also be the bombardier but you can have a really great time with buddies manning your top turret, rear turret, and waste positions. There are several other medium bombers in the game. There is one "heavy bomber", the TB-3 (old Russian plane from the early 1930s), which is a hoot to fly but terribly slow. There is also the A-20C, A-20G, Ju-88A-4, G4M-1 Betty, and He-111.

5) The physics system is top notch. Every bullet and every explosive fragment is modeled. Aircraft use a physics based flight modeling system...its not perfect but its still quite accurate. Better than the average game physics system thats for sure.

6) Biggest plane in the game...probably the B-29 Superfortress (not flyable). I think it can also take the most damage. The biggest aircraft you can fly is the TB-3 and the one that can take the most damage that you can fly...mmm...toughie...possibly the B-25 but the P-47 is fairly tough in its own right. Its somewhat subjective I think - depends where you get hit and by what.

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
If you like WW2 games then you should certainly get IL2:1946 (You get the whole series when you buy 1946) and play it online.

It is hard but there are easy settings if you really want them, right up to invulnerable where you bounce off the ground if you hit it.

You dont NEED a joystick to play it (You CAN play with keys) but you really do NEED a joystick if you want to play it properly. Keys just cannot control a plane properly. Ask around on the forum for the best cheap joystick if you just want to get one to try the game out. If you have a gameport and use ebay then I can offer some suggestions to get a very good cheap stick.

If you are willing to learn how to fly a WW2 fighter, and are interested in WW2 then definitely buy it.

If you like the Battle Of Britain scenario and like to play single player then Battle OF Britian : WIngs Of Victory is worth a look too.

WHat sort of games are you usually into? Tell us your favourites. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I like All ww2 combat games, I'm 11 years old, and i'm just hooked on p.c games. Company of heroes,Faces of war, Rush for Belin, you name it. But I wan't to try my first sim.

major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:04 PM
I think that your level of interest in aircraft will determine how much you get hooked on the game.

Shoop_da_whoop
05-22-2007, 04:06 PM
I want to post this before Bear does:

If you want to get a cheap joystick, go to:
http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/recprod.html
Saitek makes the best sticks out there from what I read and there is nothing better then a cheap stick too. I asked around for confirmation that used joysticks are okay from Saitek and lets just say I'm getting the Saitek cyborg Evo shipped to my doorstep as we speak ($15 for something that averagly costs $40? Yes please!)

Zeus-cat
05-22-2007, 04:07 PM
There is a demo for the original IL-2 game, but not for the latest version. That demo is a mere shadow of what the game has become. Not sure where to get it, but there might be a link on the main page of the forums.

As far as a joystick goes, the game is playable without one in theory, but in reality you need one. Let me repeat that, you NEED a joystick.

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by major_setback:
I think that your level of interest in aircraft will determine how much you get hooked on the game.

I very instreted in german ww2 aircraft.

I'm getting the Forgotten battles.

Does it have the

1: Me323

2: Mistel

3: Ju390

4: Dimerler Benz C

major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
I think that your level of interest in aircraft will determine how much you get hooked on the game.

I very instreted in german ww2 aircraft.

I'm getting the Forgotten battles.

Does it have the

1: Me323

2: Mistel

3: Ju390

4: Dimerler Benz C </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't get Forgotten Battles unless you've already ordered it, because all of that content and MUCH more is in Sturmovik 1946 (it includes Aces expansion pack, Pacific Fighters, several other add-ons and many extra planes).

Xiolablu3
05-22-2007, 04:12 PM
Hi Gunguy, it will be a tough learning curve, but you dont have to have all the settings on realistic. You can have them on easy to start with.

You can even turn the cockpit off so you can see through your plane.

You can have icons on the enemy plane with arrows pointing to them

You can have external views on.

All make the game much easier.

You can gradually turn the difficulty up as you get better. If you like realistic WW2 fighter games, then there is no more reaslitic or better game.

Check out the screens in this thread..

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/35010114/p/230

Also there are a lot of videos on youtube, but beware some may look jerky if they are made on old computers. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

This movie shows hte game off quite well :_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YoYssZRf_c&mode=related&search=

I am not sure about demos, there seems to be one if you download Xfore, but there may be another which doesnt need X-Fire, I am not sure. Maybe someone else can help out here.

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 04:15 PM
What are they talking about dvd? I don't get it

major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Mistel consisting of a Fw190 and Ju88 is in the game, the others I don't think so.

This link shows most of the aircraft available...someone else asked how many were in the game. you'll have to look at several posts to see the full content (if they are all counted for):
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/411...111007745#4111007745 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4111007745?r=4111007745#4111007745)

Divine-Wind
05-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
I think that your level of interest in aircraft will determine how much you get hooked on the game.

I very instreted in german ww2 aircraft.

I'm getting the Forgotten battles.

Does it have the

1: Me323

2: Mistel

3: Ju390

4: Dimerler Benz C </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't get Forgotten Battles. Go with 1946, it's the latest version. You can download it from the digital store or just waltz on over to your local Best Buy.

The game has the 323 and the Mistel, but not the Junkers 390 or the Daimler (?) Benz C, unless that's another designation for a German airplane.

major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
What are they talking about dvd? I don't get it

The Sturmovik 1946 version of the game comes on DVD, and a free DVD shows development of the next generation of Flight sims (Storm of War)that is being made by the same developers that made this game.

major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:19 PM
The Mistel is flyable. The Me323 isn't.

Xiolablu3
05-22-2007, 04:20 PM
There was in the beginning 'IL2 Sturmovik' this was a game released in 1999 and there are no more updates.

Then there was Forgoteen BAttles which started the Series.

After this came the addon for Forgotten Battles 'Aces Expansion Pack it added a lot of new planes.

Then came lots of free patches with lots of free planes and stuff.

The Came PAcific Fighters which could be merged with FOrgotten battles and all the other stuff to add even more planes.

Then came more free patches.

-----------------

BUT - All this is irrelevant now. Rather than buy all that stuff you can just buy the DVD of IL2 1946 which includes everything listed above.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubisoft-Il2-1946-PC-DVD/dp/B000KJRGTY

SO make sure you buy IL2-1946 which is a DVD. You should be able to get the DVD quite cheap now, around $19.99

Which country do you live in?? I think its quite hard to find in the USA, thats all.

X-Fire 60 minutes Demo :-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubisoft-Il2-1946-PC-DVD/dp/B000KJRGTY

Not sure how good this demo is, never heard of it before. You may find a 'proper' demo of Forgotten BAttles or Pacific Fighters somewhere if you look.

XyZspineZyX
05-22-2007, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by major_setback:
I think that your level of interest in aircraft will determine how much you get hooked on the game.

I very instreted in german ww2 aircraft.

I'm getting the Forgotten battles.

Does it have the

1: Me323

2: Mistel

3: Ju390

4: Dimerler Benz C </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1&2 are in there.

And the rest of you...come on, the Me323 is bigger than a B-29...

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f239/Skunk24/323vsb29.jpg

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
There was in the beginning 'IL2 Sturmovik' this was a game released in 1999 and there are no more updates.

Then there was Forgoteen BAttles which started the Series.

After this came the addon for Forgotten Battles 'Aces Expansion Pack it added a lot of new planes.

Then came lots of free patches with lots of free planes and stuff.

The Came PAcific Fighters which could be merged with FOrgotten battles and all the other stuff to add even more planes.

Then came more free patches.

-----------------

BUT - All this is irrelevant now. Rather than buy all that stuff you can just buy the DVD of IL2 1946 which includes everything listed above.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubisoft-Il2-1946-PC-DVD/dp/B000KJRGTY

SO make sure you buy IL2-1946 which is a DVD. You should be able to get the DVD quite cheap now, around $19.99

Which country do you live in?? I think its quite hard to find in the USA, thats all.

X-Fire 60 minutes Demo :-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubisoft-Il2-1946-PC-DVD/dp/B000KJRGTY

Not sure how good this demo is, never heard of it before. You may find a 'proper' demo of Forgotten BAttles or Pacific Fighters somewhere if you look.



Can anybody get a link for a demo?

major_setback
05-22-2007, 04:24 PM
The Ju390 isn't in the game but the FW200 is, but you're not able to fly it.

Fw200 in the game. This was googled and stolen from there.

http://acn.waw.pl/sturm/Obrazki/AEP_IL2M_W040306_000110_C04030323284664.jpg

http://batfredland.free.fr/Foe_fw200c3.jpg

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/german-luftwaffe/afc.sized.jpg

Xiolablu3
05-22-2007, 04:36 PM
I dont htink htere is a demo except for that X-FIRE 60 minute one in my other post. Thats a big download for 60 minutes of play. (1000mb).

Better just to buy IL2:1946, its really cheap now and you wont regret it.

Its not the sort of game you play for a day and put back.

If you are anything like us, you play it for months and years. Especially once you get hooked online.

Jaws2002
05-22-2007, 05:10 PM
Here is the old il2 demo. you can play it and see how you like the game.Remember!!!! the game looks a heck of a lot better now. The game was greatly improved in all areas.

http://www.download.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-demo/3000-7547_4-10230099.html

Gunguy2007
05-22-2007, 05:38 PM
is this easy to install?

Jaws2002
05-22-2007, 05:47 PM
The demo should be as easy as click and go.

The full game is the same except for rare minor problems with some hardware. Nothing you can't get over with a little help from the guys here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifif you have problems you can come back here and we'll walk you through. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Philipscdrw
05-22-2007, 06:03 PM
It used to be very complicated to get the full game setup - lots of addons and patches from all over the place. But since the '1946' DVD came out last November it's been really simple:
1) install "Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946" from DVD-ROM
2) install 4.08m patch from internet
3) you're fully up-to-date!


Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
you can have a really great time with buddies manning your top turret, rear turret, and waste positions. The B-25 has the toilet compartment modelled? I must pay more attention! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(I feel this is a more tasteful response than "Thanks but I don't want anyone to man my waste position.")

slappedsilly
05-22-2007, 06:05 PM
Simple answer = yep, get it.

MAX_theHitman
05-22-2007, 06:38 PM
I bought the game 1 month ago and all I can say is... WOW!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Absolutly amazing. AND I have only flown 19 diferent planes so far!
I was only able to buy the IL-2 "Complete edition - version 4.o4m" for 30.00 € (cheap!), but I will soon be buying that IL-2 1946 version.

It´s very easy to fly or also very hard, depending on how you set it up for any given flight/mission on any of the 300+ airplanes available. Plus you can always add diferent "skins" to them to make them more personalized airplanes, which will also add a few 5000+ planes to your garage/hangar collection to fly around in the future. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Whichever way you look at this game... it is very well worth every cent you spend on it. PLUS it´s cheaper than the other famous sims around (I ain´t mentioning names)
BUY IT and TRY IT!

MaxMhz
05-22-2007, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
What are they talking about dvd? I don't get it
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 is the latest in the IL-2 Combat flight Simulator series. It is a 2 DVD package, one DVD is the game, the other is a preview DVD (playable on a stand-alone DVD player) of the first game in the next series SoW:BoB - this will be a Battle of Britain combat flight sim. You do need a good PC (with DVD drive) to play IL-2
Just listen to all us addicts - GET IT http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Skycat_2
05-22-2007, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
... rear turret, and waste positions.
Who flung dung? You could teach monkeys to fly better than that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

T_O_A_D
05-22-2007, 07:56 PM
I breezed through here, but here is the Demo, but it hardly does justice anymore after 5+years
http://www.download.com/IL-2-Sturmovik-demo/3000-7547_4-10230099.html

Bearcat99
05-22-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
Are there any demos availbe?

Forget about the demo. It wont tell you anything as it is an old IL2 demo. If your rig is an XP2500 with a 9500Pro & 512 of RAM or equvalent or better then get the sim.... You will have to tone down the settings a bit with a rig that old... but there are guys who still fly with rigs like that. I knew a guy who was flying ghis sim with a XP1600, 512M of RAM and a 64M video card... thats right... he couldnt fly it well.. but it ran... LOL... Someon in our squad gave him a R9000 and 512 of RAM... and he was amazed... Get the sim. Trust us.

Thisa is the best WWII flight sim on the market to date... bar none.. with even it's chief contender quite a few lengths behind.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VW-IceFire
05-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
It used to be very complicated to get the full game setup - lots of addons and patches from all over the place. But since the '1946' DVD came out last November it's been really simple:
1) install "Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946" from DVD-ROM
2) install 4.08m patch from internet
3) you're fully up-to-date!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
you can have a really great time with buddies manning your top turret, rear turret, and waste positions. The B-25 has the toilet compartment modelled? I must pay more attention! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(I feel this is a more tasteful response than "Thanks but I don't want anyone to man my waste position.") </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Pffft! You know what I mean...those are waste gunner positions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Not sure why they are called that...hoping it has nothing to do with that and more about wasting bullets!

LStarosta
05-24-2007, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:


Not sure why they are called that...hoping it has nothing to do with that and more about wasting bullets!

Quite possibly because the gunners are located in the waist of the aircraft.

Kurfurst__
05-24-2007, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Gunguy2007:
I'm thinking about getting this game. I got a couple of questions.


1: Is this game hard? I know it's hard becuse it's a sim, but is it super hard?

2: How good is multiplayer?

3: Is there a chat syetem?

4: Can multiple players be in a b17?

5: Is there a good phicis syestem?

6: Off Topic: What's the biggst plane in the game? What plane can take the most damage?


It's the best sim around.... by lightyears...

Lovely community, too!

Cold Meat Platter
05-24-2007, 04:15 PM
Is this a forum for a game then? I thought it was for discussing generals. And Lingerie.

HuninMunin
05-24-2007, 04:18 PM
Yes it is for every kind of discussion.
Like the UbiSoft Off-Topic forum - only that we aircraft geeks decided to take it over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Cold Meat Platter
05-24-2007, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by HuninMunin:
Yes it is for every kind of discussion.
Like the UbiSoft Off-Topic forum - only that we aircraft geeks decided to take it over.

sorry man i really should have put a smiley after that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ignore my feeble attempts at your earth "humour"

HuninMunin
05-24-2007, 04:35 PM
Maybe I'm the one who should have put a smiley -
you understood my post "upside down"... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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