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Megile_
05-18-2006, 11:49 AM
SimHQ is going sloooowwwwww..... so I'll upload some of the screens and post them here as I get them. Btw.. isn't that oleg at the controls of the Spitfire? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6686/03new3wr.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6124/031953ff.jpg

Megile_
05-18-2006, 11:50 AM
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5338/blenheimmkif029by.jpg
Blenheim IF... so cr4p yet so good! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Megile_
05-18-2006, 11:56 AM
Anyone seen London? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6469/he111h2bombardier57mx.jpg

Megile_
05-18-2006, 11:58 AM
Gladiator
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8537/gladiatormkii017nc.jpg

ploughman
05-18-2006, 12:02 PM
Post the fields. They're sweet. I didn't download a copy and now the site's virtually stationary.

***edit***]
Here, this is all I could get before the site passed out. Nice eh?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/BOBfield.jpg

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-18-2006, 12:07 PM
So....run the relevance of that autogyro by me again...

Megile_
05-18-2006, 12:07 PM
JU-52

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5103/ju52040iz.jpg

Megile_
05-18-2006, 12:09 PM
Defiant.. the result of intercourse between a Stukka and an IL2
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9678/defiantmki066eb.jpg

Megile_
05-18-2006, 12:16 PM
JU-88A1

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2323/ju88a114wl.jpg

Capt.LoneRanger
05-18-2006, 12:19 PM
wow... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Megile_
05-18-2006, 12:23 PM
SU-26 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/515/su26cockp14ps.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1820/su26m93qi.jpg

Beaufort-RAF
05-18-2006, 12:28 PM
http://simhq.com/_air6/sow_bob/images/Town.jpg

Beaufort-RAF
05-18-2006, 12:28 PM
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/831/bobfields0lw.jpg

Aeronautico
05-18-2006, 12:30 PM
Defiant.. the result of intercourse between a Stukka and an IL2
Uh oh... I suspect a third party involved there, "Hurrie the third party"...

Amazing how the Su-26 cockpit resembles so much those from WWII.

Aeronautico
05-18-2006, 12:31 PM
Don't you guys fool yourself and think those are images from the game engine: they obviously are satellite pictures in fact... what are they there for, I dunno... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Megile_
05-18-2006, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Aeronautico:
Don't you guys fool yourself and think those are images from the game engine: they obviously are satellite pictures in fact... what are they there for, I dunno... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

hmm maybe, I'm inclined to agree though.
I'm sure Oleg said he'd never use photo realistic stuff like that for the ground because it looks naff down low.

Who knows.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Top_Gun_1_0_1
05-18-2006, 12:34 PM
best looking WW2 combat sim today,IMO

Dash_C.
05-18-2006, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Aeronautico:
Don't you guys fool yourself and think those are images from the game engine: they obviously are satellite pictures in fact... what are they there for, I dunno... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

They are tileable so they are definitely textures...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c350/Dash2226/IL-2%20Signatures/bobtile.jpg

ploughman
05-18-2006, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Aeronautico:
Don't you guys fool yourself and think those are images from the game engine: they obviously are satellite pictures in fact... what are they there for, I dunno... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

You're right. I can see IKEA in one of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

mazexx
05-18-2006, 12:47 PM
The interesting thing about the satellite images is that someone has put down a lot of work making them nicely tileable... Why do that for a joke? Anyway, it must be for a demo or something as I cannot think of them used in the engine. Then we would have the awfulness of the M$ sim down low.

/Mazex

-Edit: You beat me to it while writing Dash_C http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Monty_Thrud
05-18-2006, 01:05 PM
There was mention of a Short Sunderland...dont suppose theres a SS

Aeronautico
05-18-2006, 01:16 PM
They are tileable so they are definitely textures...

Damn I didn't notice. I didn't even care to check in fact. Now I'm puzzled, for I refuse to think we're going back there.
It has to be mentioned that IL-2 itself originally had this kind of terrain at a stage of its development, but it was soon to be dumped for its awful look down below.

ploughman
05-18-2006, 01:25 PM
Koo-koo-kah-choo?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/Walrus.jpg

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-18-2006, 01:28 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifShagbat! come to papa!

slo_1_2_3
05-18-2006, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by Aeronautico:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">They are tileable so they are definitely textures...

Damn I didn't notice. I didn't even care to check in fact. Now I'm puzzled, for I refuse to think we're going back there.
It has to be mentioned that IL-2 itself originally had this kind of terrain at a stage of its development, but it was soon to be dumped for its awful look down below. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I hate the satelite stuff it looks horible I realy hope they don't go with that.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
05-18-2006, 01:31 PM
Thats a supermarine walrus aint it ?

mamapajama http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Chivas
05-18-2006, 01:34 PM
I think the glass is half full and we are in for some outstanding graphics down low. I can't wait to fly down rivers with actual river banks.

I like how the tree tops overhang the roads in the screenshot.

There is no way Oleg will use the CFS like down low porridge. Although it will be interesting to see how Microsofts new FSX engine turns out.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-18-2006, 01:36 PM
Indeed it is, Balrog - known and loved as the Shagbat for some reason. I could almost forgo my Whirly-whining for such a ride...

There's a story of a high ranking US 8th Air Force officer who, on seeing that marvel of British engineering for the first time, drove his jeep slowly around and around it for a very long time muttering "Now I've seen it all..." Right now, I feel a little like him...

ploughman
05-18-2006, 01:36 PM
Well it's all so much Batik Chap. But I guess there's a reason for it, like not melting CPUs or something. As this is going to be the basis for an all theatre/all type sim though I'm sure 1c have considered not only the view from high altitude but the ground pounders view. Attacking 3d objects on a 2d map at low altitude, no matter the resolution is not going to be a boat floating strategy in my opinion, and I've not thought about it for very long. Oleg has, I have faith in him. Besides, he's part English. I'm sure he's lovingly crafted a beautiful facsimile of Kent for us to shoot the cr@p out of.

Aeronautico
05-18-2006, 01:40 PM
Maybe Oleg, so obsessed to not give his tricks away to the competition, put them there to deceive it (giving the impression he'd resort to that technology)... and us with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

At least that's my hope. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

ploughman
05-18-2006, 01:52 PM
Something for the weekend gents?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/floater.jpg

Platypus_1.JaVA
05-18-2006, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Something for the weekend gents?

htp://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/mctomney/floater.jpg

What the F*** is that? Italian bomber maybe?

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-18-2006, 02:16 PM
That's an He-59 Lufty air-sea rescue plane. Painted white with big red crosses, they went cammo after those beastly RAF types started shooting at them. Might not have been this mark, but one such rescue plane came down in England where it was discovered to be full of high tech photographic equipment. To much "Ah ha! Told you so...Lufty bounders!" from the RAF.

ploughman
05-18-2006, 02:29 PM
When I get my 6 DoF Track IR visor mounted display I'm going to lean out of the forward gun position on that Walrus, look down and...

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-18-2006, 02:30 PM
...bang your head on the Lewis gun?

Bremspropeller
05-18-2006, 02:33 PM
SU-26


Skip those BoB shyt-planes - I'm in for som RED BULL Airrace stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

ploughman
05-18-2006, 02:39 PM
Leeewis!

May I be the first to lobby for the Su-26 Shvak with BR-82 rockets, please.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-18-2006, 02:56 PM
Hmmmm....Morse and Lewis, two things you'd need to be good at in a Walrus methinks...spooky. I'm waiting for Colin Dexter's Inspector Lancaster series (featuring Sergeant Tallboy) now.

Xiolablu3
05-18-2006, 03:06 PM
At present mip mapping allows using of different texztures for further away and closer, so that therer is less detail when you are further away.

Mip mapping is ancient now and moving on from that, I am sure there will be a technology developed which allows satellite stuff up high and proper polygons/textures down low available now. Its just that the exact height when the 2 methods switch might be noticable, but who looks at the ground all the time anyway?

Modern graphics cards are capable of all types of tomfoolery. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GBrutus
05-18-2006, 03:57 PM
Interesting to note that the pilot sitting in the Spit in the second pic looks like the default pilots we already have. I hope they're going to model some authentic looking RAF/Luftwaffe aircrew for BoB.

Chuck_Older
05-18-2006, 04:28 PM
I went home to my 56.6 and downloaded all the images on page 1 in three minutes, Megile http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Megile_
05-18-2006, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
I went home to my 56.6 and downloaded all the images on page 1 in three minutes, Megile http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/3.gif

Chuck_Older
05-18-2006, 04:39 PM
BTW, I'm much more impressed with the terrain shot than the planes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Arm_slinger
05-18-2006, 04:47 PM
Flyable Blenheim anyone? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Kyebromley/Blenheim_MK-IV_Cockpit_7.jpg

Capt.LoneRanger
05-18-2006, 05:02 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://www.simhq.com/_air6/sow_bob/images/Ju-87B-2_2.jpg

major_setback
05-18-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://www.simhq.com/_air6/sow_bob/images/Ju-87B-2_2.jpg

Is that the Red Cross plane that someone mentioned earlier! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

danjama
05-18-2006, 08:36 PM
The water video wouldnt work for me, can anyone tell me what it was like?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

adlabs6
05-18-2006, 11:09 PM
I loaded all the pics on 56k.

The cockpits are most impressive to me. That's where I'll be most of the time and they look just great. The terrain I'm fine with, after a couple years with FS2004.

Capt.LoneRanger
05-18-2006, 11:59 PM
Yes, major_setback, with a big bundle of bandages underneath http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

A real big painkiller.

mgoyat
05-19-2006, 01:08 AM
Did I see aerials on that Defiant ?
Onboard radar ??? Yesssss !!!!!

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
05-19-2006, 01:13 AM
Well map wise, as long as I can nip down to the red lion in Avebury for a pint or fly past glastonbury tower. It Will be nice to see how he handles some of the towns and places we all know?

I asume we will have the swordfish?

Orheim is gona have a field day with all these ancient battle kites http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Beaufort-RAF
05-19-2006, 01:52 AM
To those getting excited about the Walrus, Defiant etc, they're only AI. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Pretty sure the only British aircraft flyable out of the box will the the Hurri, Spit & Blenheim Mk IV.

But the Blenheim's so great, who cares! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
05-19-2006, 02:02 AM
Correct, Beau

#

RAF flyable
Spitfire Mk.I, Hurricane Mk.I, Blenheim Mk.IV, Gladiator Mk.II (possible)
#

RAF AI
Defiant Mk.I, Beaufighter Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IVF.Blenheim Mk.I, Wellington Mk.IC, Lysander Mk.I, Anson Mk.I, Cierva C.30A/Avro Rota Mk.I (autogyro) & Sunderland Mk.I (possible)
#

LW flyable
Bf-109 E3, Bf-110 C4, He-111 H-2, He-111 P-2, Ju-87 B-2, Ju-88 A-1
#

LW AI
Do-17 Z-1, Do-215 (recon.), FW-200 C-1, He-59, He-115, Ju-52 /3M, Bf-108. and Italian FIAT G.50, FIAT CR.42, FIAT BR.20M

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/index.htm

96th_Nightshifter
05-19-2006, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
The water video wouldnt work for me, can anyone tell me what it was like?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The water video was very impressive, I couldn't get the ju88 video to work though - can anyone tell me what that was like? lol

stathem
05-19-2006, 02:06 AM
Doesn't the Blenhiem also have RDF aerials too..

ploughman
05-19-2006, 02:10 AM
Sim HQ's off line. Performance problems apparrently, although nothing to do with the Sow:BoB shots.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
05-19-2006, 02:17 AM
That's what they say http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

F19_Olli72
05-19-2006, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
Correct, Beau

#

RAF flyable
Spitfire Mk.I, Hurricane Mk.I, Blenheim Mk.IV, Gladiator Mk.II (possible)
#

RAF AI
Defiant Mk.I, Beaufighter Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IF, Blenheim Mk.IVF.Blenheim Mk.I, Wellington Mk.IC, Lysander Mk.I, Anson Mk.I, Cierva C.30A/Avro Rota Mk.I (autogyro) & Sunderland Mk.I (possible)
#

LW flyable
Bf-109 E3, Bf-110 C4, He-111 H-2, He-111 P-2, Ju-87 B-2, Ju-88 A-1
#

LW AI
Do-17 Z-1, Do-215 (recon.), FW-200 C-1, He-59, He-115, Ju-52 /3M, Bf-108. and Italian FIAT G.50, FIAT CR.42, FIAT BR.20M

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/index.htm

Hmm the italian planes are lumped together with LW AI in that list. But im pretty sure ive seen cockpit shots of the BR.20.

F19_Olli72
05-19-2006, 02:38 AM
http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/images/updates/aircraft/BR-20M_cockpit_01.jpg

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/images/updates/aircraft/BR-20M_cockpit_02.jpg

Capt.LoneRanger
05-19-2006, 02:41 AM
Correct, Olli72.

But, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised, if there are more planes in the final than announced.

On the other hand, it may be a plane from the first addon? Who knows.

WOLFMondo
05-19-2006, 02:48 AM
Sod the Blenheim, A flyable Wellington would be sweet! Or even a Sunderland.

Megile_
05-19-2006, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
Sod the Blenheim, A flyable Wellington would be sweet! Or even a Sunderland.

Sod you mondo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Anyone see the Focke wulf screenshots? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

The-Pizza-Man
05-19-2006, 04:42 AM
I don't think satellite images are even an option, not because they don't look good down low(there wouldn't be any trouble running 1m^2/pixel resolution) but where would oleg get satellite imagery circa 1940?

ploughman
05-19-2006, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by The-Pizza-Man:
I don't think satellite images are even an option, not because they don't look good down low(there wouldn't be any trouble running 1m^2/pixel resolution) but where would oleg get satellite imagery circa 1940?

http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/gerufo1.jpg

Megile_
05-19-2006, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The-Pizza-Man:
I don't think satellite images are even an option, not because they don't look good down low(there wouldn't be any trouble running 1m^2/pixel resolution) but where would oleg get satellite imagery circa 1940?


http://www.members.tripod.com/uforeview/gerufo1.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I think it looks a little dense, but other than that I don't think it looks markedly 21st century

danjama
05-19-2006, 05:22 AM
Im sure one of the pictures on page 1 of this thread was a picture of Hornchurch (i could see the tennis courts, school etc), thats just round the corner from me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

Hope my town is in there too, would be cool to see what it was like in 1940!

Capt.LoneRanger
05-19-2006, 05:22 AM
Sat-Photos? Who said, this is a flat scene?

Look at UT2007 and Doom what you can do with a rather flat surface and bumb-displacements. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

ploughman
05-19-2006, 05:23 AM
Seriously though. Post World War Two the UK used it's extensive PR assets to photograph the country. Also, the Luftwaffe recce photos of the UK which I think are archived at the University of East Anglia or somewhere fennish like that would provide a source for high altitude shots (they don't have to be satellite photos).

The South East of England, one way or another, was pretty well recorded by both airforces at or around that time.

danjama
05-19-2006, 06:03 AM
Heres that picture i mentioned, looks so much like Hornchurch area to me (note the tennis courts, train line etc)

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bobtown0mz.jpg

Megile_
05-19-2006, 02:08 PM
so we can bomb Danjama's house? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Destroyer110
05-19-2006, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by F19_Olli72:
http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/images/updates/aircraft/BR-20M_cockpit_01.jpg

http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/IL2BOB/images/updates/aircraft/BR-20M_cockpit_02.jpg


WOW! is that flyable FW-200 Condor cockpit! GREAT!! Now we can have Battle of the Atlantic as well!

Hope we get more great pre-BOB aircraft like the Fairy Battle, the Avro Anson and acme Hampden, so we can create scenarios from the day Britain declared war right up to final days of the BOB.

Excellent news!

The-Pizza-Man
05-20-2006, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Seriously though. Post World War Two the UK used it's extensive PR assets to photograph the country. Also, the Luftwaffe recce photos of the UK which I think are archived at the University of East Anglia or somewhere fennish like that would provide a source for high altitude shots (they don't have to be satellite photos).

The South East of England, one way or another, was pretty well recorded by both airforces at or around that time.

Wouldn't they all be in black and white, it would be a pretty big task to colour them all in.

ploughman
05-20-2006, 05:25 AM
Almost certainly black and white. I've no idea about how difficult it would be to render them in game in colour.

danjama
05-20-2006, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by The-Pizza-Man:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
Seriously though. Post World War Two the UK used it's extensive PR assets to photograph the country. Also, the Luftwaffe recce photos of the UK which I think are archived at the University of East Anglia or somewhere fennish like that would provide a source for high altitude shots (they don't have to be satellite photos).

The South East of England, one way or another, was pretty well recorded by both airforces at or around that time.

Wouldn't they all be in black and white, it would be a pretty big task to colour them all in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually thats something i love about England; the colours wouldnt of changed much, even now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

VW-IceFire
05-20-2006, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Aeronautico:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">They are tileable so they are definitely textures...

Damn I didn't notice. I didn't even care to check in fact. Now I'm puzzled, for I refuse to think we're going back there.
It has to be mentioned that IL-2 itself originally had this kind of terrain at a stage of its development, but it was soon to be dumped for its awful look down below. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Uuuuuuhhhhh.....we still have that technique. IL-2 uses all tiles everywhere. Those tiles are much higher in resolution than the tiles we currently have. I'm sure they will look fantastic when its put together. What IL-2 does is put tiles down, then blend edges together between different types of tiles, then places a detail texture ontop and bammo we have the nice looking terrain we already have. There isn't much better in the industry.

Thing is that the picture there is not a sattelite view but rather an artists painting. Its intentionally tilable and for good reason. I'm sure we'll see how that one fits into the ground detail later when they start releasing pictures of it.

Aeronautico
05-20-2006, 09:31 AM
I know IceFire, but in IL-2 they're "painted", with no object whatsoever in it, while on these tiles they come from pictures therefore there are trees, buildings: they look UGLY when they are flat, or so do they in every other flight sim...

heywooood
05-20-2006, 09:54 AM
I wouldn't expect anything in BoB to be a step backward...

I would like to hear Olegs Merlin engine in a sound sample though.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Monty_Thrud
05-20-2006, 10:05 AM
Yes...i have a Dyson hoover if he would like to sample it... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

heywooood
05-20-2006, 10:11 AM
Dysons' suck.

stanford-ukded
05-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Boom Boom http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I_ZG52_Gaga
05-21-2006, 06:24 AM
Hey ! where is that nice pic of a town i once saw in SimHq?
It looked very nice though it seems imposible to see any ground targets from really high ...
Is this the way way it's gonna be? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I love it!! Is it?

Schtolz
05-22-2006, 06:11 AM
Ju-87B-2

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55875&d=1147993936

Schtolz
05-22-2006, 06:12 AM
Town

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55878&d=1148006066

Bartolomeo_ita
05-22-2006, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by Schtolz:
Town

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55878&d=1148006066

IS IT THE GAME? o_o

danjama
05-22-2006, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Bartolomeo_ita:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schtolz:
Town

http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=55878&d=1148006066

IS IT THE GAME? o_o </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently. Looks like an aerial of Hornchurch to me.

Feathered_IV
05-22-2006, 08:41 AM
If no one is willing to repost any further images here, is it possible to describe them? Curious as hell what there was to see. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Crop-Duster.
05-22-2006, 09:16 AM
STOP QUOTING THE SAME IMAGE OVER AND OVER U NUMBNUTS!

Beaufort-RAF
05-22-2006, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
If no one is willing to repost any further images here, is it possible to describe them? Curious as hell what there was to see. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Most of the pics were textureless renders of aircraft we already know about, only the Blenheim cockpit seemed exciting to me.

Megile_
05-22-2006, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Crop-Duster.:
STOP QUOTING THE SAME IMAGE OVER AND OVER U NUMBNUTS!

ACHTUNG CAPSLOK!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

danjama
05-22-2006, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Crop-Duster.:
STOP QUOTING THE SAME IMAGE OVER AND OVER U NUMBNUTS!

ACHTUNG CAPSLOK!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Manu-6S
05-22-2006, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Destroyer110:
WOW! is that flyable FW-200 Condor cockpit! GREAT!! Now we can have Battle of the Atlantic as well!

Hope we get more great pre-BOB aircraft like the Fairy Battle, the Avro Anson and acme Hampden, so we can create scenarios from the day Britain declared war right up to final days of the BOB.

Excellent news!

Look at the knobs between the seats... it's Italian (BR.20) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

csThor
05-22-2006, 11:09 AM
Actually I wonder why the Fw 200 made it into the game. In 1940 it was nothing more than a rare transport aircraft and VIP transport for Hitler and his entourage. Wasted effort in my eyes - should have been diverted to some useful planes (e.g. flyable Do-17, Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, Fairey Battle or Swordfish).

FliegerAas
05-22-2006, 11:50 AM
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/8018/view00174my.jpg
source (http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/388104122/m/4641029783)


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Dunkelgrun
05-22-2006, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by csThor:
Actually I wonder why the Fw 200 made it into the game. In 1940 it was nothing more than a rare transport aircraft and VIP transport for Hitler and his entourage. Wasted effort in my eyes - should have been diverted to some useful planes (e.g. flyable Do-17, Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, Fairey Battle or Swordfish).


The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Now BoB without a flyable Do17? I do hope not - essential plane in my book.

As for the aerial/satellite photo controversy; both of those images, the countryside and town, are horrible. It's not possible to use modern photography if you want to aim for realism.
England has lost a great part of it's woods and hedgerows since the war, and the terrain across the south of the country varies enormously. Also that pic of Hornchurch (?) is stuffed full of MODERN housing estates.
The ground detail has to be taken from period photography and mapping; it's all available - basic small scale RAF air maps are available on eBay all the time, and the large scale stuff and air photos (the Ordnance Survey has been flying the country for years) is all held by one or other of the government departments.

Btw, nobody has so far mentioned the French and Belgian countryside - what's that going to look like I wonder?

Cheers!

csThor
05-22-2006, 12:17 PM
The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map

Where did that come from? The Fw 200 wasn't reequipped as bomb-carrier until early 1941 and then they operated only with I./KG 40 in a long-range sea recon / air-based submarine coordinator role. The bomb load was added as there weren't enough submarines to do the job as intended - it was never used as bomber during BoB.

stanford-ukded
05-22-2006, 12:32 PM
Does anyone have the water video available to post?

RocketDog
05-22-2006, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bartolomeo_ita:

IS IT THE GAME? o_o

Apparently. Looks like an aerial of Hornchurch to me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It might be based on a real place, but it looks like a tile because it can be repeated up-down and left-right.

At any rate, it looks rather better than the green deserts we have now.

Cheers,

RocketDog.

Megile_
05-22-2006, 01:14 PM
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5301/vortalpic1128096ss.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8197/vortalpic1128080fa.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1094/vortalpic1128075ap.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9123/vortalpic1128065wv.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2990/vortalpic1128050ej.jpg

danjama
05-22-2006, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
Actually I wonder why the Fw 200 made it into the game. In 1940 it was nothing more than a rare transport aircraft and VIP transport for Hitler and his entourage. Wasted effort in my eyes - should have been diverted to some useful planes (e.g. flyable Do-17, Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, Fairey Battle or Swordfish).


The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Now BoB without a flyable Do17? I do hope not - essential plane in my book.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto on the Dornier17.

Are you being serious about Liverpool?

If you are that us some severe BS!!! How the hell can anybody sell a Battle of BRITAIN game without the northern parts? WTF gives!? Its a joke if that is true.

This game is sounding worse and worse everyday to me, and why the hell should i buy it if the full size map that should be included isnt?!

Pfft.

LStarosta
05-22-2006, 01:26 PM
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~clumpkin/carbury.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Danschnell
05-22-2006, 02:29 PM
im interested in the AI defiant. It will be interesting to see how they work the AI. In IL2 if a plane runs out of forward firing ammo it simply flies in a straight line, but the defiant is a fighter but never had any forward firing guns. I wonder if there'll be a new kind of AI programmed to make planes try and get ahead of their enemies to make use of rear guns.

Schtolz
05-22-2006, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~clumpkin/carbury.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

EAW

danjama
05-22-2006, 03:32 PM
I LOVED EAW! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Dunkelgrun
05-22-2006, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by csThor:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map

Where did that come from? The Fw 200 wasn't reequipped as bomb-carrier until early 1941 and then they operated only with I./KG 40 in a long-range sea recon / air-based submarine coordinator role. The bomb load was added as there weren't enough submarines to do the job as intended - it was never used as bomber during BoB. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


'After the fall of France I./KG40 was established at Bordeaux with seven Fw200Cs for maritime reconnaissance and shipping strike. Several of the unit's aircraft were shot down over Britain during the Battle. In order to put in a maximum effort against Merseyside on the nights August 28th-31st, 1940, aircraft of I./KG40 were used as ordinary bombers.'

- from 'The Narrow Margin' by Derek Wood & Derek Dempster; p.288.

Cheers!

rugame
05-22-2006, 04:43 PM
EAW ftw! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

It looks like they are using the vehicles / Flak guns etc from the RTS that 1C games was creating..wartime commander i think?

I_ZG52_Gaga
05-22-2006, 06:02 PM
Million thanks for the town picture guys!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Isn't amazing? I saw a pic of a german tank and i swear i saw tall grass around it!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

FliegerAas
05-22-2006, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by I_ZG52_Gaga:
Million thanks for the town picture guys!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Isn't amazing? I saw a pic of a german tank and i swear i saw tall grass around it!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5531/grab00404eo.jpg
Again taken from here...clicky (http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/388104122/m/4641029783)


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Spinnetti
05-22-2006, 07:06 PM
Nice!

I sure wish you would be able to see your legs in the cockpit view.. Really spoils it that you fly a ghost airplane..

AVG_WarHawk
05-22-2006, 07:32 PM
That tank shot looks just like WWII WarTime Command. Very nice!

Feathered_IV
05-22-2006, 09:25 PM
Aha! many thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Charlie901
05-22-2006, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Dash_C.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aeronautico:
Don't you guys fool yourself and think those are images from the game engine: they obviously are satellite pictures in fact... what are they there for, I dunno... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

They are tileable so they are definitely textures...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c350/Dash2226/IL-2%20Signatures/bobtile.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



Anyone see anything wrong with this picture yet.....
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
(Hint) They are a series of repeating tiles ala Falcon 4.0.

I actually wouldn't be suprised if they were taken from the aforementioned.

Just look at the repeating textures from left to right..(ie the lakes, etc).....YUCK!

And they are definately not satellite photos cause you would never seen the terrain repeat itself like in this pic.

I really hope this is not how the new BoB terrain will look (repeating tiles)as it would represent a serious setback in the landscape grafix department......???

Dunkelgrun
05-23-2006, 02:39 AM
Just look at the repeating textures from left to right..(ie the lakes, etc).....YUCK!




Those bluey-green bits aren't lakes; they may be fields of young wheat although I can't be sure. The time of year looks a bit off for spring wheat. Definitely not water though.

Agreed that they look horrible...

Cheers!

The-Pizza-Man
05-23-2006, 02:47 AM
To add to what I've posted previously

http://blogs.technet.com/pixelpoke/archive/2006/01/21/417847.aspx

This is the blog of one of the devs for FSX, but it shows the difference between 5m/pixel(FS9) and 1m/pixel(FSX). If they can get some aerial photo imagery that is useable and has high enough resolution I think it would look really good.

Megile_
05-23-2006, 03:11 AM
1m/1px looks like a good way of implementing these sorts of textures... but what about the performance?

Baco-ECV56
05-23-2006, 08:11 AM
NAd just how do you include WWII type of edifications in a 2006 satelite image?

Or worst yet how do you blned WWII 3D Buildongs into a modern landscape?...

Nah.

If anything, hand made tiles a la EAW, onlly better.

danjama
05-23-2006, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
Actually I wonder why the Fw 200 made it into the game. In 1940 it was nothing more than a rare transport aircraft and VIP transport for Hitler and his entourage. Wasted effort in my eyes - should have been diverted to some useful planes (e.g. flyable Do-17, Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, Fairey Battle or Swordfish).


The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Now BoB without a flyable Do17? I do hope not - essential plane in my book.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto on the Dornier17.

Are you being serious about Liverpool?

If you are that us some severe BS!!! How the hell can anybody sell a Battle of BRITAIN game without the northern parts? WTF gives!? Its a joke if that is true.

This game is sounding worse and worse everyday to me, and why the hell should i buy it if the full size map that should be included isnt?!

Pfft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can i get a confirmation of this Liverpool blunder?

Maj_Solo
05-23-2006, 09:25 AM
EAW was where I started on-line. Thanx for posting picture. I liked the Tempest and the Spit-9 and the FwD9, 109K you could use too, P51 worked but needed a strategy that consumed a lot of time.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-23-2006, 09:33 AM
But let's not have any howlers like the twenty pence piece in the RAF loading screen with SoWBoB, eh? A real immersion killer that was, worse than poxy icons all over the windscreen if you ask me...

Dunkelgrun
05-23-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
Actually I wonder why the Fw 200 made it into the game. In 1940 it was nothing more than a rare transport aircraft and VIP transport for Hitler and his entourage. Wasted effort in my eyes - should have been diverted to some useful planes (e.g. flyable Do-17, Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, Fairey Battle or Swordfish).


The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Now BoB without a flyable Do17? I do hope not - essential plane in my book.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto on the Dornier17.

Are you being serious about Liverpool?

If you are that us some severe BS!!! How the hell can anybody sell a Battle of BRITAIN game without the northern parts? WTF gives!? Its a joke if that is true.

This game is sounding worse and worse everyday to me, and why the hell should i buy it if the full size map that should be included isnt?!

Pfft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can i get a confirmation of this Liverpool blunder? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Go back 11 posts to where I quote my source, but get one thing clear - IT'S NOT A BLUNDER!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You need to read some books about BoB - it wasn't all dogfighting over Kent.

Check out this selection (not the whole story):

July 10th (night) - western Scotland attacked
July 11th (day) - Portland Harbour raided (night) Activity over SW England and Yorkshire coast
July 12th - (day) - shipping attacked off Aberdeen
July 14th - (night) - Bristol area raided
July 15th (day) - Yeovil bombed

That's just the first week, and none of those places will be on the map with the possible exception (hoping) of Portland.


Especially check out 15th August, when apart from many other raids across the south, Luftflotte 5 based in Norway sent a mass of unescorted bombers to attack Northumbria and Yorkshire - in daylight.

You won't be able to replicate that in BoB either; limitations of the map size I'm afraid. It would knacker your PC to have the whole of GB mapped, and the majority of the action was in the south.

Cheers!

Charlie901
05-23-2006, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Just look at the repeating textures from left to right..(ie the lakes, etc).....YUCK!




Those bluey-green bits aren't lakes; they may be fields of young wheat although I can't be sure. The time of year looks a bit off for spring wheat. Definitely not water though.

Agreed that they look horrible...

Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



They sure look strangely like the color of the water of the lakes in Falcon 4.0 to me......

Besides the fact that the exact tile pattern repeats itself from left to right and top to bottom... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

justflyin
05-23-2006, 12:44 PM
As for B.o.B and my enthusiasm towards it, I'm thinking that I'll be flying this current series for quite some time to come.

Once they get things rolling and expand into the other theaters, I'll give them a looksee. Until then, thank you Oleg and 1C for the only online game that I play.

Chivas
05-23-2006, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Charlie901:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

Just look at the repeating textures from left to right..(ie the lakes, etc).....YUCK!




Those bluey-green bits aren't lakes; they may be fields of young wheat although I can't be sure. The time of year looks a bit off for spring wheat. Definitely not water though.

Agreed that they look horrible...

Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



They sure look strangely like the color of the water of the lakes in Falcon 4.0 to me......

Besides the fact that the exact tile pattern repeats itself from left to right and top to bottom... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Charlie....that won't be the only tile....its just one of many...I'm sure when you see the entire english country side...you won't be disappointed. Relax...there will be many more screenshots sooner or later.

PapaFly
05-24-2006, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Megile_:
SU-26 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/515/su26cockp14ps.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1820/su26m93qi.jpg

WTF? Is this BS or are we really getting a SU-26? THAT WOULD ROCK!!!!

The-Pizza-Man
05-24-2006, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Megile_:
1m/1px looks like a good way of implementing these sorts of textures... but what about the performance?

Of course there are performance impacts, it's bound to happen when you have 16 times the number of pixels, but they are off set by increases in the capabilities of hardware. You can't expect to be able to run BoB, FSX or any next gen flightsim on your grandmothers 486. I'm going to try and hold out until after Vista is released before I build a new computer.

danjama
05-24-2006, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by csThor:
Actually I wonder why the Fw 200 made it into the game. In 1940 it was nothing more than a rare transport aircraft and VIP transport for Hitler and his entourage. Wasted effort in my eyes - should have been diverted to some useful planes (e.g. flyable Do-17, Bf 109 E-1 and E-4, Fairey Battle or Swordfish).


The Fw200 did take some part in the Battle... it bombed Liverpool. Trouble is, we aren't going to get Liverpool on the map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

Now BoB without a flyable Do17? I do hope not - essential plane in my book.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto on the Dornier17.

Are you being serious about Liverpool?

If you are that us some severe BS!!! How the hell can anybody sell a Battle of BRITAIN game without the northern parts? WTF gives!? Its a joke if that is true.

This game is sounding worse and worse everyday to me, and why the hell should i buy it if the full size map that should be included isnt?!

Pfft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can i get a confirmation of this Liverpool blunder? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Go back 11 posts to where I quote my source, but get one thing clear - IT'S NOT A BLUNDER!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You need to read some books about BoB - it wasn't all dogfighting over Kent.

Check out this selection (not the whole story):

July 10th (night) - western Scotland attacked
July 11th (day) - Portland Harbour raided (night) Activity over SW England and Yorkshire coast
July 12th - (day) - shipping attacked off Aberdeen
July 14th - (night) - Bristol area raided
July 15th (day) - Yeovil bombed

That's just the first week, and none of those places will be on the map with the possible exception (hoping) of Portland.


Especially check out 15th August, when apart from many other raids across the south, Luftflotte 5 based in Norway sent a mass of unescorted bombers to attack Northumbria and Yorkshire - in daylight.

You won't be able to replicate that in BoB either; limitations of the map size I'm afraid. It would knacker your PC to have the whole of GB mapped, and the majority of the action was in the south.

Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is EXACTLY why im pissed off! And YES it IS a blunder!! Its utter bull****.


You need to read some books about BoB - it wasn't all dogfighting over Kent.

That is exactly my point, it wasnt all dogfighting over the south east, ive readm y fair share of BOB histories, so WHY isnt the North being modelled? What kind of ****ty battle of britain is this going to be?!

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-24-2006, 03:14 AM
Portland Whiners Unite! I wanna bomb my own house!

Megile_
05-24-2006, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Portland Whiners Unite! I wanna bomb my own house!

Ditto!!! your house.. not mine

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-24-2006, 05:27 AM
If you would like to join Megile and bomb my house, please copy this and use in all your posts...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/PortWhiner.jpg

Friendly_flyer
05-24-2006, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by Charlie901:
They sure look strangely like the color of the water of the lakes in Falcon 4.0 to me......

Besides the fact that the exact tile pattern repeats itself from left to right and top to bottom...

The colour is actually spot on for a spring wheat field. The problem is that the pattern is a tad to large for the tiles, maaking the repetetive pattern very visible.

major_setback
05-24-2006, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
If you would like to join Megile and bomb my house, please copy this and use in all your posts...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/PortWhiner.jpg

Do you live there?

I spent several summer holidays there as a child. I have an aunt who lives in Fortuneswell (spelling). Please don't bomb it! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-24-2006, 05:53 AM
Good spelling, Major http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I'm just over the bridge from Portland in Wyke Regis - once a village, now a suburb of Weymouth. On a serious note the area was regularly visited by the Luftwaffe, being covered by Warmwell airfield. It's in 'the other BoB', complemented by an oversized white horse just outside Weymouth - a nice touch and a useful landmark - as I'm sure the real one was. The area should be included, IMHO.

stathem
05-24-2006, 06:17 AM
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.

I want to bomb Stan Boardman's chippy; preferably with the culry haired unfunny racist scouse whit inside it.

Megile_
05-24-2006, 06:20 AM
I'm 98.547% sure I'm gonna fly Spitfires in BoB... and maybe Emils too... probably Stukkas and Blenheims also.
Hell I may just fly them all.

Megile_
05-24-2006, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11

danjama
05-24-2006, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-24-2006, 06:28 AM
"Achtung! Scouser! Hide der valuables Fritz!"

LStarosta
05-24-2006, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a conspiracy of cartographers!

stathem
05-24-2006, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a conspiracy of cartographers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Arm_slinger
05-24-2006, 10:42 AM
Damn I used to live there Low Flyer! I spent my first two years of life living on Croft road, and spent 4 years after that living on Dumbarton Road on the main land!

I went to the school in Wyke Regis.


I'd hate to bail out there, the currents are bloody nasty.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-24-2006, 11:03 AM
Small world, eh? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Beaufort-RAF
05-24-2006, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.

I want to bomb Stan Boardman's chippy; preferably with the culry haired unfunny racist scouse whit inside it.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Metabaron2005
05-25-2006, 10:10 AM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c350/Dash2226/IL-2%20Signatures/bobtile.jpg

This presumed BOB texture screen is in fact a reworked satellite picture. So we can say it's probably the real BOB texture.

The repetition of the fields and forests is evident, even if there are some subtile variations.The neighbourhood of London looks identicly the same on Google Earth :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/England.jpg

And here from closer :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/England2.jpg

It looks like this parcel was taken during spring if you compare it to the other darker textures.

Nice job anyway ! I hope that the bushes and the fields won't be only some photographical illusions like in IL2.

M.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/LOGGO/Loggo03.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-25-2006, 10:31 AM
Hmmmm....interesting.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/townx4.jpg

Metabaron2005
05-26-2006, 05:49 AM
This is how BOB will look like :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/raid-baron/ww2_109-6.jpg

Xiolablu3
05-26-2006, 06:17 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Not too many 109G's or Tiger tanks in the BOB 1940 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

We have large stock of .50 cals anyway, so the Tiger would be useless.

We have also paved many fields with concrete so that men with .50's hidden up trees can aim below the Tiger and let the bullets 'bounce up' underneath and kill them!

We are prepared!

mothyp
05-26-2006, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
So....run the relevance of that autogyro by me again...

it was used to calibrate the RDF towers, it would toddle off to the mid channel at a certain height and sit there so that the RDF operators could get a confirmed height/position fix on the osciloscopes, thats the relavence to the Battle of Britain!

major_setback
05-26-2006, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
Hmmmm....interesting.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/Low_Flyer/townx4.jpg

OMG you are right, they are tileable; well spotted! These will look terrible though from altitude (just like your picture shows), and the same goes for the other tile earlier in the thread. The repetitive pattern is all too easily noticeable.

Metabaron2005
05-26-2006, 09:28 PM
Do you think they care about that ? IL2 is full of these repetitives textures. For the fields there must be 5 or 6 different ones as much as for the forest edges and the rest is repetition. I think they are capable do do the same in BOB.

LStarosta
05-26-2006, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by stathem:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a conspiracy of cartographers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

England! I don't believe in it.

Friendly_flyer
05-27-2006, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by major_setback:
OMG you are right, they are tileable; well spotted! These will look terrible though from altitude

That's what English weather is for. You won't see a thing from altitude.

Chivas
05-27-2006, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Metabaron2005:
Do you think they care about that ? IL2 is full of these repetitives textures. For the fields there must be 5 or 6 different ones as much as for the forest edges and the rest is repetition. I think they are capable do do the same in BOB.

I found it interesting that you say that IL2 is full of repetitive textures. I only recall seeing some repeating crop fields that were done well enough not be annoying.

So I checked quite a few of the 60 or so maps and found only a couple of maps with repeating tiles but again done in such a way as not be noticable. Atleast nothing even close the tiles that have been stuck together here.

The sky isn't falling....I'm sure Oleg will have some beautifull terrain textures and tiles arranged in such a way as to be very believable.

DuxCorvan
05-27-2006, 01:45 PM
UGLY http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

danjama
05-27-2006, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a conspiracy of cartographers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

England! I don't believe in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recently watched Hamlet in the theatre, it was excellent. There is alot more comedy when it is acted out; Gildenstern and Rosencratz sucked though.

KOM.Nausicaa
05-28-2006, 06:23 AM
Hi all.

Metabaron, except from using the wrong plane and the wrong tank http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif is probably actually right....this is how BoB will going to look.

There have been many many hints in the past, in quotes and screenies, that we will see a much more detailed "vegetation", especially grass.
After having read so many Oleg-and others- posts, seeing pics, if you make conclusions of all the crossreferences you can be pretty sure that it will be there in some form.

My theory about tiles in SoW:BoB:

Tiles out of reworked satellite pictures/custom paintings will represent terrain in high altitude shots, similar to the MS:FS series and other flightsims. Those tiles have the underlying "repeated" layer (as can be seen in the two tiles posted here) and a custom applied second, third etc, layer that covers some of the areas to hide the "repeating" and to give some individual look to areas. That is pretty much how FS works, and it can look really good from high up, and if I may so, much better then IL2 from high up today.

Now comes the really interesting part.
What happens when you get lower? In CFS3, as in FS2004, the quality drops dramatically here because the "standard tile" is not replaced by anything consequent to give the feeling that you actually start to see details in fields, forests etc. Instead you fly over some very ugly pixel soup. No wonder, because you are now very close to a tile that has been designed to be looked at from 5000ft+. It is like looking at a very bad Jpeg print out with a magnifying glass.

My guess is that it's here that SoW:BoB will do things differently. If you look back we have somthing similar already in IL2. When you get closer, new tiles and details will jump in that give you the feeling of details on ground. In IL2 its mainly the standard "grassfield" pattern, and some other things. That is why IL2 always looked much better close on the ground then CFS3. My theory is that SoW:BoB does the same, but in a much further extend. Trees will come in on the exact location where they can be seen in the high-altitude tile, grass will come in, road textures will be drawn, etc etc etc. The brilliant thing is that it is probably on a corresponding spot to where it could be seen on the high altitude tile...so there will be no difference, but a closer and closer description of details...well like in reality in fact. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Just my theory. What do we bet ....? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-28-2006, 06:42 AM
Good post, KOM.Nausicaa. The big O himself has said that they're making a completely new sim 'from the ground up'. I think they're in a no win situation at the moment. If they show us nothing, everyone goes "Where is it?" If they show us little bits, everyone goes "Is that it?" I'n sure there's lots more to come. As for the present terrain, just go for a low-level potter about on the Normandy map - the nearest we've reached to Britain so far. Then ask yourself "With a few hills, harbours, well-known landmarks and airfield layouts would this be all that bad for BoB?"

KOM.Nausicaa
05-28-2006, 06:58 AM
Thanks Low_Flyer.

I also think that some here draw too quick conclusions out of the repeatable tiles. When well done, they can look very convincing. It just asks for artistic intervention in a second, third, etc, layer, on top of those tiles to blend in individually designed areas.
IL2 does just that today--it's full of repeated tiles.

alert_1
05-28-2006, 08:50 AM
I bet Oleg is using the same technology as in LOMAC. He even mentioned that a few gifted atrist switched to his team http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
And LOMAC looks damn well to me, high or low.

heywooood
05-28-2006, 01:49 PM
Isn't it about time for an update on BoB?...

Really - if they still plant to release it in November this year, shouldn't we be seeing more?

FC02
05-30-2006, 06:12 AM
I love that fields so much -_^

tigertalon
05-30-2006, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by major_setback:
OMG you are right, they are tileable; well spotted! These will look terrible though from altitude (just like your picture shows), and the same goes for the other tile earlier in the thread. The repetitive pattern is all too easily noticeable.

And completely unrealistic in a pilot-orientating regard...

Capt.LoneRanger
05-30-2006, 07:17 AM
The real landscape in Southern England is tileable, too - period http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

heywooood
05-30-2006, 08:35 AM
Where is the BoB website?....anybody..?

E3 was weeks ago now.

Megile_
05-30-2006, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a conspiracy of cartographers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

England! I don't believe in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recently watched Hamlet in the theatre, it was excellent. There is alot more comedy when it is acted out; Gildenstern and Rosencratz sucked though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

danjama
05-30-2006, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by danjama:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Vote here for the inclusion of Liverpool.



Yeah Liverpool for sure!11 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently we dont get votes, The North of England doesnt exist to Oleg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's a conspiracy of cartographers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

England! I don't believe in it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I recently watched Hamlet in the theatre, it was excellent. There is alot more comedy when it is acted out; Gildenstern and Rosencratz sucked though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

not sucked like that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif