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Bearcat99
01-08-2010, 11:03 PM
Has anyone managed to land tghis thing? If so how? If you can do it... post a track.

AndyJWest
01-08-2010, 11:29 PM
Um, Bearcat, have you read the Pilots Notes in the Aircraft Guide?

The landing procedure is more involved. Firstly, select suitable area for landing. Landing
approach is standard, with speeds of around 250-300 km/h, with the stabilization auto-pilot
turned on (one white indicator light). At 25-30 meters of altitude begin a flare at 10 to 20
degrees nose-up attitude. The active stabilization auto-pilot will engage (second white
indicator light). Level the elevators at that time. The stabilization auto-pilot will attempt to
keep the aircraft vertical. Do not increase engine power at this time, as this may cause too
much altitude to be gained. Do not chop the throttle below 25%, as this may lead to a stall or
loss of effectiveness of the gas-powered stabilization mechanism.
After the aircraft is stabilized vertically, slowly decrease power to descent. Aircraft with
expanded ammunition and low fuel will hover at approximately 35 to 40% of throttle. When
descending, vertical speed of no more than 5 m/s is recommended. The aircraft is also
equipped with ultra-sound altimeter, which should be used alongside the vertical speed
indicator during descent.
Before touch-down decrease the vertical speed, momentarily opening the throttle. When the
aircraft touches down, three green lights will illuminate on the dashboard. Immediately
decrease power to avoid bunny-hopping
I won't say it always works, but it is definitely the way to go. And if all else fails, and it is going totally wrong, apply full power, climb away, and try again. Just remember to watch your fuel level - running out at 100m in a hover is seldom enjoyable. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Boosher
01-08-2010, 11:33 PM
Never had much of a problem, just don't like the view. If anything, I feel that the Lerche proves helicopters are a viable thing for the future in IL-2.

Phas3e
01-08-2010, 11:38 PM
Air brake, deply that and its easy, I never managed it until I realised the air brake allows it to sit on its tail.

wheelsup_cavu
01-08-2010, 11:44 PM
Try watching this youtube video Bearcat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxXwJpTB4pQ


Wheels

na85
01-09-2010, 12:24 AM
I remember seeing a track of somebody landing a lerche on a MOVING carrier. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-09-2010, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Has anyone managed to land tghis thing? If so how? If you can do it... post a track.

No, and I`m never going to either! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

F19_Orheim
01-09-2010, 01:24 AM
easy peasy if one read the "how to" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jamesblonde1979
01-09-2010, 02:53 AM
I've never flown the stupid thing, why would you bother?

Skoshi Tiger
01-09-2010, 03:12 AM
Well, if we are going to be attacking German Aircraft carriers at Hitlers secret Nazi Moon base in a 1946 senario a modded Lerche is the ONLY aircraft that would be appropriate. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm going to put some time into it!

b2spirita
01-09-2010, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
I've never flown the stupid thing, why would you bother?

Because its a G-A-M-E, played for F-U-N.

Jure_502
01-09-2010, 04:25 AM
Magic word - speed brake, and it's quite fun! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

thefruitbat
01-09-2010, 04:38 AM
Can't say i ever flown it. It holds no interest to me personally, but i don't have any particular grudge about oleg putting it in, it's his game after all.

Choctaw111
01-09-2010, 04:47 AM
It took some practice.
After some time with it, I was not only able to land it, but land it where I wanted.
Many people don't like the Lerche, but I have actually had quite a bit of fun with it.
My youngest son, Nate, always asks me to "fly the plane with no wings". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Bearcat99
01-09-2010, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
Um, Bearcat, have you read the Pilots Notes in the Aircraft Guide?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> The landing procedure is more involved. Firstly, select suitable area for landing. Landing
approach is standard, with speeds of around 250-300 km/h, with the stabilization auto-pilot
turned on (one white indicator light). At 25-30 meters of altitude begin a flare at 10 to 20
degrees nose-up attitude. The active stabilization auto-pilot will engage (second white
indicator light). Level the elevators at that time. The stabilization auto-pilot will attempt to
keep the aircraft vertical. Do not increase engine power at this time, as this may cause too
much altitude to be gained. Do not chop the throttle below 25%, as this may lead to a stall or
loss of effectiveness of the gas-powered stabilization mechanism.
After the aircraft is stabilized vertically, slowly decrease power to descent. Aircraft with
expanded ammunition and low fuel will hover at approximately 35 to 40% of throttle. When
descending, vertical speed of no more than 5 m/s is recommended. The aircraft is also
equipped with ultra-sound altimeter, which should be used alongside the vertical speed
indicator during descent.
Before touch-down decrease the vertical speed, momentarily opening the throttle. When the
aircraft touches down, three green lights will illuminate on the dashboard. Immediately
decrease power to avoid bunny-hopping
I won't say it always works, but it is definitely the way to go. And if all else fails, and it is going totally wrong, apply full power, climb away, and try again. Just remember to watch your fuel level - running out at 100m in a hover is seldom enjoyable. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um no... didn't know there were notes in there.. Should have thought of that... This is a the first time I tried to land one. Never really bothered with it..


Originally posted by F19_Orheim:
easy peasy if one read the "how to" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks


Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
I've never flown the stupid thing, why would you bother?

Because it is in the sim and I want to..

general_kalle
01-09-2010, 09:02 AM
its actually not that difficult with a little practice.
the moving carrier thing is simple. just hover ahead of the carrier and let it move into position below you, then put it down.

VXB77016
01-09-2010, 09:14 AM
It's not easy to do and it requires some patience.

I haven't flown the Lerche for several years but I did make a point of learning how to land it.

In short, come in hot then make a very quick transition to vertical flight. Once you've established vertical flight go easy on your stick inputs.

Once you have the hang of it, it's very easy to do. Like most things Il-2, it's all about developing a feel for it.

The_Stealth_Owl
01-09-2010, 10:32 AM
I think the learch is easy to land. You can even land it like a normal plane and pull up at the very last second.

Eow_TK
01-09-2010, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by na85:
I remember seeing a track of somebody landing a lerche on a MOVING carrier. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I've done it before, coming on whats like a normal approach from behind. It took a few tries, but I did get lucky and got it down once. It just takes a few tries, thats all. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

erco415
01-09-2010, 12:51 PM
You can even "land" in the water- submerging the tail up to the lower fan stage and then climbing back up and away. It seems that Oleg forgot to model the weight of all the water that would flood the tail section.

Best thing to do is practice hovering, descending and climbing vertically at altitude (smoke on helps) until you have the hang of it. Speedbrakes out makes a world of difference, but it can be done clean.

Choctaw111
01-09-2010, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
I think the learch is easy to land. You can even land it like a normal plane and pull up at the very last second.

Got track?
True you can get close to the ground on approach, but you will always wind up going fairly high in the sky before you can begin your slow descent.
I don't find anything in common to a normal plane in landing.

The_Stealth_Owl
01-09-2010, 02:17 PM
Nope.

jamesblonde1979
01-11-2010, 01:09 PM
Darn, you've sucked me in now...

Anything this hard just has to be worth a shot.

K_Freddie
01-14-2010, 01:35 PM
You lot are a bunch of amateurs..

(6.8MB) Velly strong Imperial Aircraft, better than you Amelican rubbish planes (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/ValLanding.wmv)
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

KG26_Alpha
01-14-2010, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
You lot are a bunch of amateurs..

(6.8MB) Velly strong Imperial Aircraft, better than you Amelican rubbish planes (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/ValLanding.wmv)
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Your PC needs to be destroyed by fire immediately !!!!

K_Freddie
01-16-2010, 05:04 AM
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Choctaw111
01-16-2010, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
You lot are a bunch of amateurs..

(6.8MB) Velly strong Imperial Aircraft, better than you Amelican rubbish planes (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/ValLanding.wmv)
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

We didn't hear you screaming with elation after you pulled that off.
To bad you destroyed the prop though.
I have the say that the island was MUCH smaller than I thought it was going to be.
By the way, that was worthy of getting saved in my Il2Movies folder.

Sturm_Williger
01-18-2010, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by b2spirita:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jamesblonde1979:
I've never flown the stupid thing, why would you bother?

Because its a G-A-M-E, played for F-U-N. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well said b2spirita - actually 2 Lerche's dogfighting is good for a drunken evening's laugh - it's almost impossible to tell which way your opponent is going to turn as there's no planform to give it away. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif