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WereSnowleopard
05-21-2005, 09:28 AM

archer49d
05-21-2005, 09:34 AM
I kill tugboats, no questions asked. I'll sink a fishing ship only if its inside German "territorial waters" and is an enemy one (probably a spawning error on the part of the game, but I say it's allied operatives being dropped off). Otherwise it's best to avoid them, because even if your after the 84 tonnes they'll call their destroyer buddies over to kill you.

TooFastForLove.
05-21-2005, 10:07 AM
Likewise I just don't feel right about destroying a fishing boat, and I have yet to see one in German waters. Tug boats I suppose I have to kill. Whats a tug boat doing out at sea anyway? I suppose it would be to rescue a disabled ship.

Jose.MaC
05-21-2005, 10:21 AM
Total war is total war, planning to starve a country to its knees doesn't allows you compassion. If they are near enought to spot me, they're gonna die! By machinegun, of course. Two magazines and goes bye bye!

OgreB
05-21-2005, 11:07 AM
U-boat officers ( depending on moral center) sank all enemy ships..fishing..especially whaling! ( whale oil=machine oil/lubricants)
They destroyed/captured almost all of the northern whaling fleets...especially Norways.

But they usually took prisoners or allowed them to escape the ship before sinking..

It was only with Doernitz's " Total War" proclamition that it started to get ugly.


But the US did the same to Japan...

The Germans were more willing ( at first) than the US to take prisoners..
The US subfleet was infamous for machine gunning boat sinking survivors...
One ship, after sinking a troop transport, actaully ran out of small caliber ammo because the were mowing down hundreds of helpless men.

War is hell....

eodseal2000
05-21-2005, 11:14 AM
Fishing boats will report your posistion is they see you!
They are considered "spying eyes" and are not your friend!
Sink they if they are not German.
War is Hell.
I sent a Contact Report on a Tug Boat and German Bombers found and sunk it, before I could get to her!
Awsome!

kruckgp
05-21-2005, 11:22 AM
I giggle while I flak gun them to death. Afterwards, I telegram their wives and suggest that they visit my chateau in the Black Woods...only seven women so far, but I'm only on my third patrol for this career http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

OgreB
05-21-2005, 11:24 AM
That's just evil....

Horvald
05-21-2005, 11:34 AM
Greenpeace would be proud of my flak crew. Think of it in a different light you potentially might be saving a dolphin....ok ok, thats not the reason I do it,I am just an evil bastard and like creating little viking funerals everywhere I go.

W.Irving
05-21-2005, 12:54 PM
Big no no.
Fishing vessels are a waste of ammunition as far as I am concerned. Tug boats likewise. I also feel bad about sinking unarmed, civilian ships.

I do wish there'd been life boats and crew members escaping the sinking ships so you'd be faced with the choice of either gunning them down or leaving them be.

gildagr8
05-21-2005, 01:11 PM
i go with what general eisenhower sed:" war is war, kill ore be killd"
and i do not take eny risks so ill kill eny unknown boat that belongs to the enamy sid yes yes evan if he justs wants to "sell the fish to bring food on his family table" lol

InfectiousDust
05-21-2005, 01:16 PM
As long as I have enough ammunition, anything red is fair game. Since this is only a game, I don't feel there are any moral implications whatsoever.

I say light em up and let em burn! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Dolinseks
05-21-2005, 03:55 PM
I dont attack fishing boats, but I do attack Tug boats.

Bubblehead1948
05-21-2005, 04:06 PM
posted Sat May 21 2005 10:14
Fishing boats will report your posistion is they see you!
They are considered "spying eyes" and are not your friend!
Sink they if they are not German.
War is Hell.
I sent a Contact Report on a Tug Boat and German Bombers found and sunk it, before I could get to her!
Awsome!
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http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Hmmm... This is interesting. I spotted one off the Norwegian coast and began pursuit until I realised what it was. I don't believe I was spotted. I currently operate a type II, and I've gotten somewhat good with it.
I didn't figure the fishing boat was worth a torpedo. But since these boats are an entity of commerce, and a potential tattle-tail, maybe I'll target them with AA if the opportunity presents itself.

Maj_Solo
05-21-2005, 04:12 PM
ofcourse, no food to the troops, I might even do them a favour, who wants fish anyways http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MohawkDaddy
05-21-2005, 05:19 PM
Tonnage is tonnage. In SH1 I used to blow sampans away with the deck gun all the time. It's a shame for role playing purposes we can't board them and then put the crew in life boats before we sink them. I let them have it in the daylight. If it's night time I may go after them, depends on how much real world time I have on my hands. If they see you and the boat has a radio, you know any patriotic skipper would drop a dime on you.

WereSnowleopard
05-21-2005, 06:08 PM
Some of you said that they will call destroyer in but all time when I got contact with fishing boat was far away as they hadn't spot me yet. It happen while I go 1054 sudden go to 32 that alert me to look what my watch officer spot it as same with sonarman alert me to check what it was. I usually igrone after first time destroyed it to see if we get bonus or whatever. Yes, it happen to me in bad storm in night as got sound contact and take me a while to close up to see what it was...oh well it was tiny fishing boat. I wish that sonarman will tell me what kind of boat he heard.

Celeon999
05-22-2005, 07:13 AM
I dont attack fishing boats.
They arent worth the ammunition.

I always try to evade them by going to periscope depth and let them pass until they are out of range.

In the war there were many fake fishing boats. These were spy boats who used their civil status to watch enemy ship and air traffic and looked for enemy submarines also.

A similar threat were neutral ships.
Neutral does not mean they like you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

American trade ships were also neutral before the end of 1941 but you can be sure that every American ship with radio has reported instantly the position of every german vessel it came across to the brits.

Its no secret that "neutral" american destroyers attacked german subs long before the declaration of war with the USA . They hoped that the german subs would make counter attacks on them so the USA could enter the war for "Defence" reasons.

Thats why Hitler strictly forbid the attack on american ships. I remember a story of a german sub that asked via radio for the attack permission on a american war ship called "Texas" that i had spotted.

The message was : AMERICAN BATTLESHIP "TEXAS" SPOTTED IN BLOCKADE AREA. HASNT SPOTTED US. NO ESCORTS. IN EXCELLENT ATTACK POSITION. ASK PERMISSION TO SINK TEXAS. U-203

The Answer from BDU was : FœHRER HAS ORDERED PREVENTING ANY INCIDENTS WITH USA FOR THE NEXT WEEKS. ATTACKS ONLY ALLOWED ON VESSELS THAT ARE CLEARLY HOSTILE. OFF SWITCHED LIGHTS ON WAR SHIPS ARE TO BE SEEN AS NO PROOF OF HOSTILITY.

A german uboat reported in 1940 that it had observed three american destroyers changing their nationality flags to royal navy on the open sea were they thougt no one could see them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Then they formed a sub hunt formation.

An explicit break of the geneva war conventions.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So trust no one and stay stealthy baby http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif!

zzzspace
05-22-2005, 08:54 AM
Geez, I'd slaughter a digital rubber-ducky and blow every dewy-eyed fur seal pup, quietly minding its own business, off the fricken digital ice-pack. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What is it with people who want the pretence of Mr. Sensitive €˜moral superiority dude€ about not performing the coup-de-grace on a bitmapped 3D model? ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif ... but then have no qualms about virtually drowning a few hundred digital bad guys pottering along harmlessly in their respective rub-a-dub-dubs, one sunny digital afternoon ... I guess the desire to butcher them must all be in the presentation then ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif too funny! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Beuf_Ninja
05-22-2005, 09:06 AM
I kill everyone I can, my aim in this war is to destroy the morale of the British pig dogs and what could be more demoralising than the complete loss of the food source that the sea provides. That is the horror of war, turning other humans into mere statistics to be erased. Saying that I won't bother chasing them over any distance but if I can get into position ahead of them they will be delivered into the arms of Zeuss!

CrossWire1969
05-22-2005, 09:14 AM
Don't think I would bother with I honest, hard working fisherman. But I would render to the deep a dingy full of Baywatch actors.

tinneri
05-22-2005, 09:50 AM
FISHING SHIPS ARE FEEDING ENEMY TROOPS !!!

WereSnowleopard
05-22-2005, 01:55 PM
Well, if your U-boat have problem cause sink that force you float in water...fishing boat show up and see you...will they machinegunning you or rescue you if hadn't heard about what U-boat did to fishing boats. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

kpill
05-22-2005, 06:31 PM
Call me cold hearted, but war is hell and i'll sink any enemy ship, where ever i find it!