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Eaglez47
09-10-2005, 11:57 AM
Hi well i just started playing IL2 FB and after i learned to take off i started to try different missions. The first time i got into the battles my propeller just stopped moving and i crashed, i then get where it says STALL! when diving and dont know what causes stalls and why did my propreller stop all of a sudden? Thanks a bunch and hope to see you guys some more P.S. How do you get online? just want to watch some other guys fly

Eaglez47
09-10-2005, 11:57 AM
Hi well i just started playing IL2 FB and after i learned to take off i started to try different missions. The first time i got into the battles my propeller just stopped moving and i crashed, i then get where it says STALL! when diving and dont know what causes stalls and why did my propreller stop all of a sudden? Thanks a bunch and hope to see you guys some more P.S. How do you get online? just want to watch some other guys fly

danjama
09-10-2005, 12:05 PM
maybe u tapped the engine off button by mistake i do it quite alot in battle. And a stall is when you are to slow and there is not enough air going over/under the wings to create lift. To prevent stalls dont pull back the elevators too quickly and keep ur speed up! You may find spins come abut too. these are due to uneven air on each side of the plane. To stop a pin/try to stop, reduce throttle, kick opposite rudder and wait for the spin to stop. Then gently pull back. You probably guessed that to recover from spins and stalls you need quite alot of altitude(height). Well that is just the basics. Use the internet for more info.

F0_Dark_P
09-10-2005, 12:14 PM
have you never played a flight sim?

you stall cause you are pulling to hard on the stick mate, try to be more gentle, it can take some time until you have got the feeling for the plane that you are flying

and that thing with the engine, i think you pulled some negative G's, for example that is when you dive to fast with the Hurricane or the Gladiator

but anyway just keep on flying you will get the hang of it one day, but remember be gentle with the stick dont pull hard

and welcome to the forum and the world of il2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


[EDIT] to slow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

hamselv2
09-10-2005, 01:00 PM
If you want to see other people fly, you could download recorded tracks.
You can find a lot of recorded tracks here:

http://www.dreyermachine.com/il2/

http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/tracks.htm

http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/viewforum.php?f=...609cb983f0f17e24948e (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=ac33f4c76316609cb983f0f17e2 4948e)

Eaglez47
09-10-2005, 02:19 PM
Thanks a bunch for the answers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I have a Cyborg Evo Saitek Stick, what numers should i use? And with the stalls what default button is it to turn off the engine? Thnks a bunch, please tell me those numbers !!! THANK YOU

Taylortony
09-10-2005, 02:47 PM
OK http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I is the engine Key, if you go ingame and go esc then controls you can see what key is mapped to what control http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif there might be some info on the cd in the manual PDF if it has one...


Stalls
I will answer this as basic as i can, no offence but I do not know what standard of aeronautical knowledge you have so will give it to you basic...

A wing is almost flat on the underside but curved on the top outwards in a bow shape...

as the air passing over it has to travel faster over the top to get to the back edge due to having to travel further than the air passing over the direct flat underside route this creates an area of low pressure above the wing... the higher pressure under the wing then pushes the wing up into the lower pressure area and that is lift... the higher the air gets on the top surface due to the shape the greater the drop in pressure so the higher the lift there, this is called the centre of pressure... ok, now if you tilt the front of the wing upwards that moves the high point forward due to the angle against the air flow and the centre of lift moves fwd.. when you tilt the wing far enough the center of the lift gets to the leading edge and then goes fwd past it, the low pressure then collapses and breaks up under the leading edge, the air in effect STALLS and the lift is lost, therefore the wing fails to produce any lift and drops, this is a stalled condition, to rectify this you push the nose down and move the centre of pressure rearwards, flaps also effect this by in effect altering the shape of the wing and increasing the lift at lower speeds.... An aircraft normally has what is called wash out and wash in.... this is a twist in the wing so as an example the wing at the fuselage has a different angle of attack from the tip, this has two advantages, if a wing was to stall across the whole of the wing at once then you would lose aileron control which is bad... so if you have a higher angle at the fuselage that will stall first, THIS IS GOOD.... it means your ailerons are still effective in control and as the wing root stalls the air spilling off the back of the wing is dirty, IE swirling and in turmoil.... this dirty air hits the horizontal tailplane and creates buffet on the elevators, this warns the pilot that the wing is beginning to stall through the column and gives him time to reduce the angle of attack of the wing before the whole wing stalls..........

you can prevent this in 2 ways one is to use flaps to as said increase the curvature of the wing and reduce the stall speed or 2 keep up forward speed in a turn and reduce the effects that way by not letting speeds reduce to a critical point when the wing will stall..


Hope that helps

FoolTrottel
09-10-2005, 04:28 PM
In addition to Taylortony's reply: See how it flies (http://www.av8n.com/how/)
It's a big read ... but if you do get through it and understand it you'll get the hang of flying ... and it'll help you fly this game.

For online play ...
Go and check out Hyperlobby (http://hyperfighter.sk/), it's third party client, which most ppl use.
But, you'll need to upgrade FB with AEP and PF to be able to truly 'join' as most ppl have that merged version... and the versions are not interchangeable...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">what numers should i use? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Guess this is about stick-sensitivities?
Well, this is all about personal preferences.
But, there are some recorded values:

Oleg's:
aileron=0 1 3 6 12 21 32 44 61 81 100 0
elevator=0 1 4 8 15 24 33 44 60 77 100 0
rudder=0 0 10 19 32 43 54 63 74 86 100 0

Captain Brown's:
aileron=0 0 1 3 7 9 14 18 23 27 33 0
elevator=0 0 0 3 5 8 12 16 21 27 34 0
rudder=0 0 0 2 4 6 9 12 17 21 26 0

The first and last digits (zeroes) refer to dead zone and filtering!

Have Fun!

rnzoli
09-11-2005, 03:46 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hamselv2:
If you want to see other people fly, you could download recorded tracks.
You can find a lot of recorded tracks here:

http://www.dreyermachine.com/il2/

http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/tracks.htm

http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/viewforum.php?f=...609cb983f0f17e24948e (http://www.french.themotorhead.com/il2/viewforum.php?f=12&amp;sid=ac33f4c76316609cb983f0f17e2 4948e) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


just checked 1st link.... he flies well... but the guy gave up flying in combat after 8 months

"I've become somewhat bored with combat. Air combat is not challenging enough, air combat is basically just a complicated version of Paper, Rock, Scissors"

never heard of him since then

that's a lesson on its own, i guess

wonder what is the average of flight career expectancy with this sim. i mean, after what time they quit usually

ytareh
09-11-2005, 04:16 AM
It sounds as if you are trying high difficulty settings as a beginner.Now there are two philosophies here.Personally I would say start with easier settings -you can choose to make stalls and spins impossible if you like .(Are you aware of these adjustments-eg can make ammo more powerful or unlimited etc)But some would say bite the bullet and stick with "full real" settings.I guess it depends whether you learned how to ride a bicycle with training wheels/stabilisers or not!!!(I did and still made national champ!)Anyway it took me a year to get to full real settings and I still dont go near superchargers,radiators etc...

Eaglez47
09-11-2005, 07:35 AM
Another question, after you bail what are you supposed to do ? cna you control your pilot or wht? Can you get into another plane? thnks

Taylortony
09-11-2005, 10:12 AM
when you land or bail out.. go ESC then refly.. thats the only way round it, the only control you have over parachuting pilots is to shoot their chutes off from another plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif