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GAU-8
08-04-2007, 04:17 AM
going out on a limb here.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

approx 12:30-12:45 last night.

was outside talking to the wife. out of the corner of my eye, I saw a shooting star, and i caught the last glimpse of it..and it "stopped"....thats when i saw the blinking...the blinking and every once in a while, another tiny light emrged from it, flew around in close proximity...then went back... i saw this maybe 4 times. the main image DID NOT follow the typical earth rotation/star gazing pattern. it was heading one direction..getting closer to another star, a few minutes later..it was going AWAY from that star..and then disappeared from sight.

i watched for a few minutes going "WTF is THAT??!

i live near BUSH airport, but aircraft dont look like this(not a "typical" type.)

it was BRIGHT RED then WHITE (and sometimes green). i thought "that is odd, not a typical "twinkle" of the stars", so i looked around. NO OTHER stars were twinkling. sure there was a mild shimmer, but not a BLINKING type fashion.also it looked like 2 headlights (more or less) compared the the first star i have on film it looks nothing like! (single bright white dot)

i finally remembered to grab the camcorder...this is what i have (all though heavily cut for here.)

i have about 20 minutes of this footage. so if you want to see more, i can burn it onto a disk or something (unedited) for your query.

i WANT to say "satellite"....but is it possible for them to change orbit/pattern?

how can i contact someone who might know possible viewing of a sattelite during a certain time,date..??? video is crappy for now, maybe i will reload it (didnt know photobucket can do 100 megs) so i might try it again in a bit.

anyways about the clip. i was trying to smoke a cig, drink some dr.pepper, (yeah i know for the name of humanity i could have put the drink and smoke down...geez..)and cath the thing alll at once....so my "dialog" if you call it that..is er...... not the greatest.

i am not saying this is ALIEN, but it aint no star,...possible mil tech birds? satellite.. who knows.

heres the clip.

possible answers?? (the TWO lights are ...lights from my backyard....not starts at the start of the clip:P)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/th_whatisthis.highquality.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/?action=view&current=whatisthis.highquality.flv)

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 04:17 AM
going out on a limb here.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

approx 12:30-12:45 last night.

was outside talking to the wife. out of the corner of my eye, I saw a shooting star, and i caught the last glimpse of it..and it "stopped"....thats when i saw the blinking...the blinking and every once in a while, another tiny light emrged from it, flew around in close proximity...then went back... i saw this maybe 4 times. the main image DID NOT follow the typical earth rotation/star gazing pattern. it was heading one direction..getting closer to another star, a few minutes later..it was going AWAY from that star..and then disappeared from sight.

i watched for a few minutes going "WTF is THAT??!

i live near BUSH airport, but aircraft dont look like this(not a "typical" type.)

it was BRIGHT RED then WHITE (and sometimes green). i thought "that is odd, not a typical "twinkle" of the stars", so i looked around. NO OTHER stars were twinkling. sure there was a mild shimmer, but not a BLINKING type fashion.also it looked like 2 headlights (more or less) compared the the first star i have on film it looks nothing like! (single bright white dot)

i finally remembered to grab the camcorder...this is what i have (all though heavily cut for here.)

i have about 20 minutes of this footage. so if you want to see more, i can burn it onto a disk or something (unedited) for your query.

i WANT to say "satellite"....but is it possible for them to change orbit/pattern?

how can i contact someone who might know possible viewing of a sattelite during a certain time,date..??? video is crappy for now, maybe i will reload it (didnt know photobucket can do 100 megs) so i might try it again in a bit.

anyways about the clip. i was trying to smoke a cig, drink some dr.pepper, (yeah i know for the name of humanity i could have put the drink and smoke down...geez..)and cath the thing alll at once....so my "dialog" if you call it that..is er...... not the greatest.

i am not saying this is ALIEN, but it aint no star,...possible mil tech birds? satellite.. who knows.

heres the clip.

possible answers?? (the TWO lights are ...lights from my backyard....not starts at the start of the clip:P)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/th_whatisthis.highquality.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/?action=view&current=whatisthis.highquality.flv)

SeaFireLIV
08-04-2007, 04:27 AM
Well, it`s certainly a flashing red and white light...

Who knows? I`d love to speculate, but it`s pretty much impossible. Good work catching it, though.

Why are UFO`s always fuzzy and indistinct? One day someone will get a UFO in pristine ultra clear view so you can see the little alien waving inside! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 04:31 AM
well part of it is how i compressed it... on camera, and even on large A "REAL" high quality format...it looks a lot better.

sucks, i tried to call several possible places(NASA, observatories...etc.etc) that would have access to telescopes, and stuff, but everybody was closed.

i guess too many "MUFON" people call all the time :P

danjama
08-04-2007, 04:33 AM
i cant tell what it is. From your vid id say aircraft, but i cant tell at all because it is zoomed to close to see the type of movement.

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 04:39 AM
i would like to say that as well, but with my living at an airport, im accustomed to seeing mid, and HIGH traveling aircraft....and this was much higher. and like i said...this was at the end of the shooting star.

for about 5 minutes, its travels towards the first star in the vid with litle satelite "stars" around it, regoins, then is stationary for about 10 minutes, THEN travels away from the first star, then disappears!

A CLOUDLESS night too.

thing is, unlike a satellite ..which goes from horizon to horizon, and can be tracked in a predictable path, and unlike a "normal" aircraft..the "lights" stayed the same position, no matter which way it flew. im accustomed to seeing all sorts of nav light patterns, placement, and but this didnt fit anything i have...bah. i dunno.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

pointless . i'll never know http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

DuxCorvan
08-04-2007, 04:47 AM
That looks like human-made navigation flashlights. Maybe pilot balloons (pibal) with attached flashlight -both to measure visibility and to prevent accidents. The erratic paths you are describing could very well apply to them.

danjama
08-04-2007, 04:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GAU-8:
i would like to say that as well, but with my living at an airport, im accustomed to seeing mid, and HIGH traveling aircraft....and this was much higher. and like i said...this was at the end of the shooting star.

for about 5 minutes, its travels towards the first star in the vid with litle satelite "stars" around it, regoins, then is stationary for about 10 minutes, THEN travels away from the first star, then disappears!

A CLOUDLESS night too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the shooting star bit was very interesting.

maybe this first star is also some sort of "ship" and they are meeting/linking.

Have you ever seen a shooting star? I have, would like to know if it was moving at similar speed or faster/slower.

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 04:56 AM
yeah seen a few. usually its like a razor thin but brilliant light as it burns up.

first off, i cant discredit anything you guys say.. so im not trying to be argumentative here, but if something comes up in your ideas that may be different, from what i saw, ill try to fill in the gaps.

it may have been the ballon thing....maybe.

reason why im thinking this is because even an aircraft (even just a speck) you can still visually track with your eyes, and can tell that it is moving. with this "thing". there was no "true" movement...the only way i could tell was by using refence points on the horizon, or earths rotation and predicting where the stars were going to be a few minutes later. this one didnt fallow that. i couldnt see REAL travel solely on its own with my eyes. only using reference points.(still assuming it COULD possibly be a star, like mars or something) the star at the first of the vid is what I gauged the "travel" with its friend in question, along again, with the rest of the star pattern.

B16Enk
08-04-2007, 05:19 AM
Well I've seen similar in the UK, including the colour variation.
Very high altitude, looked like a shooting star but changed direction.
Clear night too.

Never saw lights leaving and joining though!

raaaid
08-04-2007, 05:26 AM
flash

it was venus that having a more inner path than earth from earths view seems to make an orbit in which it advances and then regreses

you just caught the reverse sense moment of venus

was it in the celestial equator where the sun and moon pass by?

DuxCorvan
08-04-2007, 05:47 AM
Raaaaid, the apparent movement of Venus you talk about is right, but it doesn't happen in seconds or minutes. It requires hours and days to become apparent and observable.

Besides, Venus light may be flickering due to atmosphere conditions -specially in hot evenings- but not in that exaggerated way.

Finally, Venus is much more bright, and appears just before dawn or right after sunset, never past midnight -which is the time all happened.

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 05:48 AM
well, i dont know anything about stars, so here goes basic info. hope it helps...

im in houston texas. viewed around 12:30ish to about 1:00ish a.m.

from my backyard, i was looking ROUGHLY southwest.

if the horizon was a 0 degree angle, i would maybe(??) say the object in question was about 35-45 degrees up off the horizon.

the first star in vid, was all by itself to the naked eye. allthough a "clear night" houston got smog/bright lights at night...so im not going to say it was a "perfectly clear night".

sorry if the info doesnt help or yall are scratching your heads going "WHAT??" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Hawgdog
08-04-2007, 06:00 AM
Could it have been, oh, I dont know...a moonbat?

MEGILE
08-04-2007, 06:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hawgdog:
Could it have been, oh, I dont know...a moonbat? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


too much carbon emissions.

COol video.. no idea

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 06:22 AM
yikes! about 22 minutes of film in entirety..with about 10 minutes of "could be anything" blinking away.

you tube has a 100 meg/ 10 minute limite. im good on the megs, but over on the minutes.

if you guys know a place i could upload entirety at let me know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Gitano1979
08-04-2007, 06:22 AM
I'd suggest a possible connection with Phoenix probe (launched in these days) or Atlantis entering in the atmosphere after joint ISS-Shuttle operations... but the behaviour is quite strange!

or THEY'RE AMONG US!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

stansdds
08-04-2007, 06:23 AM
"The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus."

Viper2005_
08-04-2007, 06:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Why are UFO`s always fuzzy and indistinct? One day someone will get a UFO in pristine ultra clear view so you can see the little alien waving inside! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

UFO = Unidentified Flying Object

If it wasn't fuzzy and indistinct it would probably be identified and would therefore cease to be a UFO. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

VW-IceFire
08-04-2007, 06:53 AM
Hard to say but I remember several unusual objects in the sky that I was watching were satellites. I've even seen a dead satellite which moves in a very unusual spiral like motion across the sky (like a kid is going nuts on a Etch-e-sketch).

carguy_
08-04-2007, 07:17 AM
That`s probably a Russian spy aircraft prototype.Nothing to worry about.

jimDG
08-04-2007, 07:18 AM
Goodyear (or some other) airship.
Green/red blinking lights say "man-made".

And if the you look at it from the front, or behind, you are gonna see lights (whatever the ad pane displays) moving in a circle (the circumference of the gasbag)

XyZspineZyX
08-04-2007, 07:24 AM
If I lived near an airport, and I saw weird lights, I might, oh I dunno, call the airport and ask about aircraft coming in at that night at that time of day, and from that direction. But I'm hardly Sherlock Holmes...

Monterey13
08-04-2007, 07:25 AM
Well, it definitely had electronic blinking lights..looked like strobes to me.

IMHO it looked and sounded like an aircraft, and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary in its' flight path.

Just my opinion...I wasn't there, so I can't say what it was.

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 07:33 AM
yeah, see the few times ive seen the live satellites i was able to watch from almost one side of horizon to almost the other...

this little guy ..if you held out a normal sized sheet of paper at arms length, and held it towards the sky...its movement would fit inside that space.to seeing some very high travelers..but even those referenced later.werent as high)

even with 22 minutes of film, there was a good 10 minutes or so witnessed before i grabbed the camera. with even aprox 30 minutes of watching,if it was an "known" aircraft, or satellite.. it would have been way out of the "box" the paper represented. it would have gone in some direction to a horizon, or vanishing point, not just hang around, move here some, move there some..then .."poof". well i cant say that, it didnt magically disappear, but what i can say is that it bacame fuzzier, and fuzzier, and then no longer visible to my naked eyes. it disappeared from the box , but not by traveling OUTSIDE the box. (horizon to horizon) its just got fuzzy. and then "no more".


(MONTEREY, the sounds you heard are from the freeway, about 100 yards off, and the jets nearby/ overhead. airport about 5 miles away (BUSH INTERCONTINENTAL)...there was not any sounds being emitted from the item in question.. that i could tell. everything was "local".

i do agree it was electronic lights, but not like those of a blimp. the goodyear used to reside here in houston, and there is a new one here as well. fuji i think. seeing both at night, and day...the distance is WAY to high for those guys to operate. this was OVER anything "commercial" in operating heights

XyZspineZyX
08-04-2007, 07:44 AM
Man, could be a thousand things made by somebody in your neighborhood. It's 2007. Remote control helicopter and a kid with nightvision goggles?

Sounds kooky...but compared to it being "unexplainable", it's pretty much a tame thought! I play with some basic telemtery and video transfer of flight bodies at work- don;t know how it works, it just does, and I press the buttons and bolt 'em in- but it's not really fantasy stuff anymore

I'm reading Bruce Campbell's book right now- he and he brothers used to make vacuum cleaner bag "UFOs" that caused quite a stir, in the '60s. they sued a wooden frame, a vacuum cleaner bag, and candles attached to the frame. They made a hot air balloon out of it- no sound

LEDs are cheap and bright. HID bulbs for cars can be bought off-the-shelf. Laser pointers are common. Wireless controls are in everyone's house

I see no mystery beyond what combination of clever and mundane man-made and common objects it was that you saw- be it toy, prank, school-boy experiment, or aircraft

You very much want to beleive that this thing was very mysterious and strange

call the airport http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 07:54 AM
mysterious and stange, yeah kinda. i wont say other worldly of course.

i used to get the is it cyalume ?? (light up sticks, ) and attach them to kites.. get a few thousand foot of string, then cut it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

there goes the bright green kite at night.

maybe this is my punishment http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif


(edit)

this is embarrising.....ive talked 4 different airports now and errrrr... its not going well. getting the run around. "uhuh...uhu..ooooh that is exicting...WOW...uhuh.. tell you what, you can call this number.... repeat, repeat repeat repat. repeat.

RAAAID..i feel ya man.. i feel ya. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

maybe it was the "vomit comet"!

Blood_Splat
08-04-2007, 08:45 AM
It was swamp gas nothing to see here move along.

Blood_Splat
08-04-2007, 09:01 AM
This was a good case.
http://ufologie.net/htm/brazil58.htm


I had my own UFO sighting when I was on lake Huron. It moved really fast and stopped in midair then shot straight up.

stalkervision
08-04-2007, 09:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GAU-8:
going out on a limb here.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

approx 12:30-12:45 last night.

was outside talking to the wife. out of the corner of my eye, I saw a shooting star, and i caught the last glimpse of it..and it "stopped"....thats when i saw the blinking...the blinking and every once in a while, another tiny light emrged from it, flew around in close proximity...then went back... i saw this maybe 4 times. the main image DID NOT follow the typical earth rotation/star gazing pattern. it was heading one direction..getting closer to another star, a few minutes later..it was going AWAY from that star..and then disappeared from sight.

i watched for a few minutes going "WTF is THAT??!

i live near BUSH airport, but aircraft dont look like this(not a "typical" type.)

it was BRIGHT RED then WHITE (and sometimes green). i thought "that is odd, not a typical "twinkle" of the stars", so i looked around. NO OTHER stars were twinkling. sure there was a mild shimmer, but not a BLINKING type fashion.also it looked like 2 headlights (more or less) compared the the first star i have on film it looks nothing like! (single bright white dot)

i finally remembered to grab the camcorder...this is what i have (all though heavily cut for here.)

i have about 20 minutes of this footage. so if you want to see more, i can burn it onto a disk or something (unedited) for your query.

i WANT to say "satellite"....but is it possible for them to change orbit/pattern?

how can i contact someone who might know possible viewing of a sattelite during a certain time,date..??? video is crappy for now, maybe i will reload it (didnt know photobucket can do 100 megs) so i might try it again in a bit.

anyways about the clip. i was trying to smoke a cig, drink some dr.pepper, (yeah i know for the name of humanity i could have put the drink and smoke down...geez..)and cath the thing alll at once....so my "dialog" if you call it that..is er...... not the greatest.

i am not saying this is ALIEN, but it aint no star,...possible mil tech birds? satellite.. who knows.

heres the clip.

possible answers?? (the TWO lights are ...lights from my backyard....not starts at the start of the clip:P)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/th_whatisthis.highquality.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v205/GAU-8/?action=view&current=whatisthis.highquality.flv) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


report it to the NUFORC...... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_UFO_Reporting_Center


ufo's are real btw... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

stalkervision
08-04-2007, 09:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
This was a good case.
http://ufologie.net/htm/brazil58.htm


I had my own UFO sighting when I was on lake Huron. It moved really fast and stopped in midair then shot straight up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


me too.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SeaFireLIV
08-04-2007, 09:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Viper2005_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Why are UFO`s always fuzzy and indistinct? One day someone will get a UFO in pristine ultra clear view so you can see the little alien waving inside! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

UFO = Unidentified Flying Object

If it wasn't fuzzy and indistinct it would probably be identified and would therefore cease to be a UFO. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well... Not true.

You could see something clear and distinct with even an alien waving from it and still call it a UFO. Because whatever it is, it`s still an unidentifield flying object.

buzzsaw1939
08-04-2007, 11:49 AM
Ok.... You got me! I've been poseing as a simmer to pick your brains, I figured out how to go faster than light,and hover, I just didn't realize that I shouldn't have put red , green and white lights on it, and flew around near a airport, in a holding patern! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif seriosly, I've seen things in my time, that can't be explained, but this is not one of them.

Scen
08-04-2007, 12:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by raaaid:
flash

it was venus that having a more inner path than earth from earths view seems to make an orbit in which it advances and then regreses

you just caught the reverse sense moment of venus

was it in the celestial equator where the sun and moon pass by? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What you're describing it called Retrograde however Planets typically don't twinkle unless there is atmospheric conditions like wind or heat. In terms of movement you won't see Retrograde with the naked eye. Of course you will pick up the earths rotation.

Not sure what it is however it looks to be some sort of aircraft. It does alternate color though again that could be atmospheric anomalies.

It's possible to see satellites and I've even see the Shuttle in orbit but they tend to move.

heywooood
08-04-2007, 12:35 PM
nice video...the only way to get a clear image at your relative distance from the target would be to use one of NASA's ultra long range high def. shuttle tracking cameras so don't feel bad about the quality...unless someone has one of those in their pocket, the chance of getting indisputable visual evidence of alien flying machines is remote.

As to the lighting - the pulse of those lights had not the random quality generally associated with natural light fluctuation or 'twinkle' and as to color - well - light refraction over distance and through atmospherics can be cause the color to appear much different at the camera lens or eye of the observer than it is at the source...meaning a red light bulb fifty miles away in an atmosphere can appear yellow to the observer.

As to why an alien survey ship would display lighting of any kind instead of trying to keep a low profile - well - lighting can be unintentional...like from a heat source or other byproduct of energy from a propulsion system...agitating certain molecules is all it takes to generate light as you know.

This could have been a man-made aircraft at extreme altitude or really just about anything but a star...the pulsing of that light is too evenly rythmic to be naturally generated IMO.

One of the problems aside from clarity of definition with most video captures like this is the lack of reference - no other objects in the sky of known proportions or rate of speed / altitude nearby to compare it to as a rule.

Don't be intimidated by popular oppinion - if you see something like this - take down as much info as you can and record it as you have done...note the date, the time, the weather, the location, any other aircraft in the sky, their heading if you can tell it... everything.

...contact your local news service and talk to someone about it, no big deal. You saw something 'unusual' and maybe someone else saw it too.....cool.

as I have posted here before - I saw something 'unusual' in the sky with no lights on it atall and it flew over Lindberg Field and North Island NAS at an incredible rate...there was an airliner taking off in the same field of view so I had an altitude, and relative airspeed reference along with a bearing and exact time so I called Lindberg tower and the local TRACON to see if they saw it on radar....nope....but I did get a call back an hour later from 'someone' who asked for all the details and a description of the obect I saw...black wedge...VERY fast...no lights and no discerneable sound..bearing west/southwest at what I guessed was maybe directly over the NAS/Downtown San Diego at maybe 30-40,000 ft and if so...it was a very BIG wedge for sure....

I only saw it by accident because I my eye was tracking the 737 that had just taken off and was almost overhead when the UFO intersected its flight path at the higher altitude...

ImMoreBetter
08-04-2007, 01:23 PM
I would think it would be a high-altitude aircraft with it's nav lights on. It may have been turning and rolling, which would explain how it kept into a compact airspace and moved so strangely.

heywooood
08-04-2007, 03:30 PM
sort of along these lines...do you guys remember that old 70's Brit tV show 'UFO' ?

they had aliens that breathed green liquid - always wore full suits when they were encountered... and the good guys tracked and vectored intercepts via radar from a base on the moon...kinda like the BoB 'chain home' system (I think this similarity was intentional be sure)..

Not the stupid show with Martin Landau...this was actually a pretty good program....anyone?

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 06:28 PM
cool! from NUFORC! someone else seen the same thing previously!

everything from duration, object, and angle to horizon is about the same! cool.



Sighting Report
Occurred : 6/5/2007 22:00 (Entered as : 06/05/07 22:00)
Reported: 6/6/2007 5:34:50 AM 05:34
Posted: 6/12/2007
Location: Allentown, PA
Shape: Unknown
Duration:20 minutes
Extremely bright 'twinkling' star-like light hovering in cloudless night sky.

Husband and wife witnessed extremely bright light in WNW sky, aprox 45 degrees between directly overhead and western horizen. Object had very bright, twinkling glow, little if no movement in any direction. Gave impression of the "Christmas Star" with twinkling rays sparkling outward. Slight hints of red and green visible occassionally. With 10X50 binoculars, an outline of rows of lights (estimate 8 or 10) could be seen. Also, with binocular observation, object could be seen to be rotating as the rows of lights turned out of sight and reappeared. Couple observed object for approximately 30 minutes, during which time it seemed to hover in place although the rotation of the earth was moving the line of vision out of sight due to trees. Night was cloudless, stars and aircraft also clearly visible.


im wondering if it could of been the space station.. wonder if the wife will let me buy a telesecope

3.JG51_BigBear
08-04-2007, 08:10 PM
Its major league baseball reading your thoughts. Just take your Focusyne and everything will be fine.

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 08:25 PM
thats right! focusyne!

MLB listens to EVERYTHING!!!

we are through the looking glass, people!

GAU-8
08-04-2007, 08:31 PM
maybe it was this guy..and i watched him burn up?

http://www.ufodigest.com/crossbow.html http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

berg417448
08-04-2007, 08:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by heywooood:
sort of along these lines...do you guys remember that old 70's Brit tV show 'UFO' ?

they had aliens that breathed green liquid - always wore full suits when they were encountered... and the good guys tracked and vectored intercepts via radar from a base on the moon...kinda like the BoB 'chain home' system (I think this similarity was intentional be sure)..

Not the stupid show with Martin Landau...this was actually a pretty good program....anyone? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I remember that show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8RfzkhqBLY

heywooood
08-04-2007, 10:24 PM
yeah baby yeah!

thats the one....sweet purple haired chicks in tight go-go outfits on spacestations make me soooo hornticular http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stalkervision
08-04-2007, 10:36 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

woofiedog
08-04-2007, 11:34 PM
Mabye send up Ben Affleck after them... after all he won WWII single handed in Pearl Harbor. He shouldn't have a problem with a few Space Alien's!

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/332/332.jpg

zardozid
08-04-2007, 11:37 PM
http://www.sixtiescity.com/Ufo/uf15.jpg

SeaFireLIV
08-05-2007, 08:58 AM
lol, I do remember!

leitmotiv
08-05-2007, 09:18 AM
Last night the ex-Governor of the state of Arizona was talking about a mass sighting of UFOs over the city of Phoenix, Arizona, in the late '90's of which he was a witness. He, in particular, spotted a huge delta-shaped object, far bigger than any aircraft, moving slowly up a valley during the episode. On the other hand, the Governor may be bonkers see this press story:

http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/174919

raaaid
08-05-2007, 12:14 PM
haha silvered cloths

became so fashion that i dont wear my silver sneakers any more

GAU-8
08-05-2007, 03:18 PM
i believe RAAAID is correct!

as much as it sucks to say.....i was looking at venus i believe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

i tried looking in the sky again last night, and I caught it again.

i was able to film a bit more clearly this time. it REALLY looks like a "manufactured" type of light show, but i guess nature can do outlandish things if your not used to the reasons why.

i believe it was Venus.. if i am correct it will be near the north star (polaris?) it was down, and to the left a little bit, of polaris and another dimmer star, was across from venus..so the three made a triangle. correct?

i feel like a COMPLETE moron, but damm, it did not look natural by any means...especially the fact that i saw the shooting star first, and watched it end approximately where venus was.. i assumed that was the end of the trail. it looked like something coming out of a warp speed,then just started blinking.(i wonder if the vusual anomoly "floaters" can be seen at night in the right conditions. i swear this "ufo" was emitting a particle or two....i dont think venus is blowing out chunks of stuff to be seen by the naked eye.))

i'm man enough to admit i made a mistake. but i also say that RAAAID was RIGHT on the answer, even though his reason to others may or may not have been incorrect.

but i got better recordings of it last night (thinking it was back)...WHAT A SHOW!!! i got my wife out to look at it as well.. "thats NOT a star!" yes it is baby! "nooo.. no its not" "YES IT IS! its in the same place as it was LAST NIGHT!

i now have permission to buy a telescope http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Enforcer572005
08-05-2007, 06:28 PM
It probably wasn't Venus. I think it may have been the star Sirius, or one similiar. This and a few more have the tendancy, in certain atmospheric conditions (usually clear) to look like they are flashing, even changing colors. It has to do with the light spectrum being filtered through the atmosphere and some other conditions. That's kinda what it looks like in the vid.

I found this out yrs ago through experience as a former 911 dispatcher, and a member of MUFON (google it), and I took a short course from them in most of the stuff that can be mistaken as UFOs. Sirius is at the top, and several times as a dispatcher i got calls on this. I could step outside and see for myself that it was sirius. Some other stars do the same thing.

Having said that, Never assume that odd stuff you see is natural or man made objects. Ive seen for myself things flying around that I know aren't aircraft or swamp gas etc. Anyone who sorts thru all the garbage and looks at the evidence will see that some technology from somewhere else is likely responsible. Ive seen 3 "stars" dance around, stop and go suddenly, zig zag in formation, and just zip to the horizon at about mach 50, all this with my parents who were both experienced pilots.

Ive seen several more things like this, but you would be surprised what can be mistaken for UFOs.

Don't waste time reporting to Govt or scientific entities - they are programmed to ignore such. MUFON is a much better place to report such, and they do have a web site. (Fox Mulder was a member y'know).Thanx for posting this.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Antisub
08-05-2007, 08:41 PM
Since several of you keep falling back on Venus or various stars, download this astronomy program: http://www.stellarium.org/

It's free, pretty heavy duty, but extremely easy to use. There are buttons at the bottom left and right that let you control the program. They turn on planet and constellation names, etc. By clicking on a star or other object it tells you it's name, distance, etc. In the Configuration menu (one of the buttons) put in your lat/long (it defaults to somewhere in France, I believe), then the date and time of your sighting. Using the mouse to pan around, look in the direction of your sighting. Is Venus there? No? Rules that out, then.

Once you've figured out it wasn't Venus or a star, just for fun, find Mars, Mercury or Venus and zoom in on them. You can see the phase of the planet, just like the phases of the moon. With Jupiter, you can see the positions of the four largest moons, something you can actually see in binoculars. You'll see the planets moving because of the earth's rotation; just click the back arrow at bottom right once to stop the motion.

Oh, and wear your tinfoil hat at night just in case it really was visitors from Alpha Centuri...

Lurch1962
08-08-2007, 07:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I've even seen a dead satellite which moves in a very unusual spiral like motion across the sky (like a kid is going nuts on a Etch-e-sketch). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dead or alive, a satellite will always follow the same smooth path across the sky. To wit; From Australia, back in '89, I saw a Russian polar orbiting satellite pass overhead and skim through the upper atmosphere like a slow meteor while it was at perigee (the lowest point in its orbit). It was due to make its final plunge just days later.

============================

Venus is currently approaching inferior conjunction (where it will lie between us and the Sun) and is therefore too close to the Sun in the sky to be visible at all, in either the evening or morning.

Moreover, Venus will always be found close to the ecliptic, or the path the Sun follows across the starry background as we orbit it during the course of a year. The closest the Sun, Moon or any planet will get to Polaris in the sky is of order 66.5 degrees (plus or minus several degrees, depending on the tilt and orientation of the Moon's/planet's orbit plane.)

From Houston, Jupiter is about 30 degrees above the SSW horizon around midnight or so. It's brighter than any star, and looks creamy white in colour. BTW, a pair of good binoculars will easily reveal up to four of its large moons, and should also show the planet as a ball, and not just a star-like point.

A final point. It's ALWAYS non-astronomers ( and I include amateurs) who see UFO's. I wonder why that is? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

--Lurch--

Davinci..
08-08-2007, 08:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GAU-8:
i believe RAAAID is correct!

as much as it sucks to say.....i was looking at venus i believe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

i tried looking in the sky again last night, and I caught it again.

i was able to film a bit more clearly this time. it REALLY looks like a "manufactured" type of light show, but i guess nature can do outlandish things if your not used to the reasons why.

i believe it was Venus.. if i am correct it will be near the north star (polaris?) it was down, and to the left a little bit, of polaris and another dimmer star, was across from venus..so the three made a triangle. correct?
i now have permission to buy a telescope http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


negative..

First of all Raiid isnt the brightest light bulb in the pack... why you'd take his word for anything science related is the bigger mystery here then what you have captured http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

it was not venus.. Venus sets pretty early this time of year, you'd be hard pressed to see it at all as its pretty close to the sun right now. Not only is its position a huge problem, you would NOT see its motion. You(and i mean you raid) cannot see a planets motion beyond the rotation of the earth, in the timescale we are talking about here.

Jupiter is the only planet currently up at night you can see with the naked eye(you can see mars in the early morning), and its no where near polaris, Also the planets dont "flash", stars and planets may "twinkle", but they dont flash. Juptier is that very bright star you see to the south at night this time of year. Polaris is to the north(obviously).

I would guess you caugh something man made, a blimp or something perhaps(as someone suggested). Satalites travel much to fast, and planes wouldnt be around for 20+ mins.

If you'd like next time your in the Toronto area you can look through my scope. a simple 114mm newtonian(sky watcher), i hope to upgrade to a 200mm Dob within a month or 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

heres some picks i took of the moon through it.
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2751/t8yi8.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8536/t2pz8.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/276/t5jv8.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5559/t7qw6.jpg

Charos
08-08-2007, 09:44 PM
Im thorwing these into the pot.

Jupiter ends retrograde motion on August 7 (http://www.earthsky.org/skywatching/jupiter-ends-retrograde-motion-on-august-7)

Not saying that the retorgrade that was seen was Jupiter itself but the planet is apparently very bright at this time and rather visible to the naked eye.

Perseid Meteor Shower (http://www.space.com/spacewatch/040806_perseid_guide.html)

Next is the Perseid meteor shower of which:

"A few Perseids can be seen as much as two weeks before and a week after the peak, though casual viewers may not find meteor watching very rewarding on such nights. The extreme limits of the Perseids are said to extend from July 17 to Aug. 24.......Peaks Aug. 11-12 "

VW-IceFire
08-08-2007, 10:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Lurch1962:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I've even seen a dead satellite which moves in a very unusual spiral like motion across the sky (like a kid is going nuts on a Etch-e-sketch). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dead or alive, a satellite will always follow the same smooth path across the sky. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well I can tell you that I did see, with 5 or 6 friends out on a dark night, what appeared to be a satellite weaving back and forth before it disappeared from view...presumably out of the suns light. I've seen allot of satellites but none moving like that before. I looked it up a while ago and apparently its a dead one...somewhat out of control. Thats what I had read...I don't know.

GAU-8
08-09-2007, 03:04 AM
DAVINCI,

reason i say raid is correct ..is because well..not im not exactly saying it is venus (i dont pay attention to the stars too much) my star stuff is vague.. but jsut the fact that it was from the "heavens" and not in an atmosphere. but if in fact you say it JUPITER (the BRIGHTEST star..this STROBING guy is down, and to the left of it. EVERY NIGHT. (im not arguing its jupiter..im just so confused about stars..its been a looong time since eagle scouts :P)

sorry, its not a blimp, nor is it aircraft in holding pattern http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif this is IN SPACE. maybe others can be easily confused between "atmosphere" and "space" but this follows the same rotational pattern every night, along with jupiter, and every other star..( I do admit that i did not think it was at first, but i was wrong) and it is viewable for hours on end.

Charos
08-09-2007, 03:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GAU-8:
but if in fact you say it JUPITER (the BRIGHTEST star..this STROBING guy is down, and to the left of it. EVERY NIGHT. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Bright star is most likely Antares - see the first link I posted.

"This magnificent first magnitude (typically 0.96) star, shining opposite Betelgeuse, its counterpart in Orion, is ranked the 15th brightest in the sky."

GAU-8
08-09-2007, 04:31 AM
i think it is ANTERES... going to the link you provided, there was jupiter, and "down to the left" ANTERES, and and to its right, is the star i could barely see.. and i remember the formation being a very elongated triangle.. which is what i say they were all by themselves in the sky at night. (for me, seen from the south, maybe a little southwest at least from 10 pm, to 3 or so in the morning...

ok so whats up with antares!?

ah found the answer..."red giant star Antares, which currently is below the planet Jupiter. Seen low in the sky, it often flashes red and white due to turbulence in our atmosphere."


thx charos! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Charos
08-09-2007, 04:53 AM
some more info for you:

Info on Jupiter this month (http://www.nightskyinfo.com/)

"The solar system's largest planet glares in the south during evening among the background stars of Ophiuchus, a large but faint constellation north of Scorpius. Jupiter's yellowish hue contrasts nicely with the ruddy glow of nearby Antares, which lies about 5? below it.

A better sky map of Scorpius with Jupiter (http://www.nightskyinfo.com/maps_images/html/jupiter_map.htm)

Zenflyer1971
08-09-2007, 05:24 AM
Last night at 11.54 Irish time the Shuttle passed over Ireland on route to rendevous with the International Space Station. Exactly 30 mins. before the space station itself passed over head. Hopefully tonight again we will see both either docked or the shuttle chasing the space station. What you saw was probably the shuttle itself (rockets on) and the main fuel tank burning up in the upper atmosphere. Go here for more information:-
http://www.astronomy.ie/

Zenflyer1971
08-09-2007, 05:34 AM
Just looked at your post date!!! OOOOOOps Sorry!!! NASA did lauch the Pheonix probe on saturday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6926880.stm