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smokincrater
01-22-2008, 05:19 PM
Sadly Heath Ledger departed this world today in New York from what appears to be a drug overdose. Rest in peace troubled soul.

Haigotron
01-22-2008, 05:37 PM
Im not usually phased by news like this, but Heath Ledger's death actually made me sad. I guess he was one of the few ok young actors out there. It seemed he had alot going for him...

RIP http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

AKA_TAGERT
01-22-2008, 07:22 PM
who?

TheGozr
01-22-2008, 08:58 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I liked this actor I was hoping for a brighter future... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/photo/2008/01/22/0122-LEDGER/15785965.JPG

tagTaken2
01-22-2008, 09:25 PM
Waaay OT, but it is a bit of a surprise.

He made a great gay cowboy, but if you really want to see a good role for him, find Two Hands- Australian movie and one of the best of its kind I've seen.

ElAurens
01-22-2008, 09:44 PM
Just another media personality that had it all and threw it down the loo.

*yawn*

JG52Uther
01-23-2008, 01:47 AM
Drugs.What an idiot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

flyingloon
01-23-2008, 02:03 AM
quite suprising news, didn't have him down for that kind of thing. poor sod.
and folks, do you call someone for stepping into the road at the wrong time? bit off colour.
edit
from bbc site - "Police are reportedly investigating if the Australian actor - nominated for an Oscar for Brokeback Mountain - died of an overdose of prescription pills....The BBC's Matthew Price in New York says the exact cause of death was still being investigated, but suicide has not been ruled out." and also reports of the split from gf/mother of child in september...

MEGILE
01-23-2008, 02:05 AM
Wasn't a big fan, but this news was a big suprise when someone told me last night.

Mercanario
01-23-2008, 03:04 AM
if you really want to see a good role for him, find Two Hands- Australian movie and one of the best of its kind I've seen.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Pirschjaeger
01-23-2008, 04:30 AM
Sources initially told CBS 2 HD's Scott Weinberger the actor's death may have been drug-related, and that there were pills, possibly a strong sleeping medication, found near his body. However, there was no obvious indication of suicide, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said.

"There were prescription medications taken from the apartment, including sleeping pills," Browne said. "They were not scattered about. They were his prescription medications."

In Ledger's last interview on Nov. 4 he told the New York Times he was having trouble sleeping while filming his role as the "Joker" in an upcoming Batman film, "The Dark Knight." He said he had to take the prescription sleep aid Ambian and, "Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night. I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going."

The man was exhausted and taking prescription meds. He died of cardiac arrest.

Let's not start judging.

Fritz

Ratsack
01-23-2008, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
...Let's not start judging.

Fritz

Indeed.

The reaction of some makes me wonder. Was Brokeback a bit confronting?

Ratsack

BSS_CUDA
01-23-2008, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by AKA_TAGERT:
who?

he starred in the Movie, Broke-butt Mount him

Blood_Splat
01-23-2008, 06:46 AM
http://ohregina.com/drugsrbad.jpg

x6BL_Brando
01-23-2008, 07:10 AM
Mmmm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

We're really exercising our right to display our callous, cynical and casually indifferent sides today, huh? The word 'drugs' gets mentioned and suddenly it's not the tragic loss of a young man not even in the prime of life, but a reason to make snap judgements about a person we never even met?

I find it a disturbed and disturbing reaction to some poor family's grief. I hope they never have to read it.

Brando

flyingloon
01-23-2008, 07:18 AM
uh what the hell people? read some of the reports before being asshats eh?
apparently they were prescription sleeping tablets (new ones at that) prescribed to him due to the lack of sleep and stress - while filming "dark knight", he had been getting 2hours or less sleep a night whilst shooting. there is no mention of illicit substances, no coke, and at the minute it either looks like a bad reaction to them or an overdose related to stress. not misadventure. so this puerile "drugs are bad mmmkay" is about as distasteful as making jokes about cot death.
a new low for the forum.

Capt.LoneRanger
01-23-2008, 08:08 AM
Very sad to hear that.

Let's not sink so deep. This man got a young child who lost his daddy.

And honestly I don't need comments on drugs who mix up drugs and medications. So far nothing is certain, but it was stated that he may have committed suicide. He got divorced last year and couldn't life with that quite well, additional to the stress of his job. So, as long as none of you is in such a situation, maybe you should not judge him or make jokes about drugabuse.

Thanks.

madsarmy
01-23-2008, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:
Mmmm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

We're really exercising our right to display our callous, cynical and casually indifferent sides today, huh? The word 'drugs' gets mentioned and suddenly it's not the tragic loss of a young man not even in the prime of life, but a reason to make snap judgements about a person we never even met?

I find it a disturbed and disturbing reaction to some poor family's grief. I hope they never have to read it.

Brando

Well put Brando.

general_kalle
01-23-2008, 09:34 AM
ahh sad. i kinda liked the movie Knights tale where he's main charakter.
good actor, sad story http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

GreyFox5
01-23-2008, 09:58 AM
This news surprised me and it's a bummer that he died. I thought he was a good actor with a lot of potential. I feel bad for his daughter and the mother of his little girl.

jarink
01-23-2008, 10:36 AM
While it's sad and a gret loss I'm sure to his family, I can't find it in myself to really care much. Does his being an actor and a media personality somehow make him more worthy of public grief than the death of (several? many?) homeless Joe(s) that froze to death in the gutter last night?

Our priorities as a society are seriously out of whack. I'm really tired of this "star" worship in the news every day.

I just lost my paternal grandmother New Year's eve after she had emergency abdominal surgery on Christmas Eve day. For some strage resaon I feel more affected by her death than Mr. Ledger's.

ElAurens
01-23-2008, 10:49 AM
Thank you jarink, you said it far better than I did.

SeaFireLIV
01-23-2008, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by jarink:
While it's sad and a gret loss I'm sure to his family, I can't find it in myself to really care much. Does his being an actor and a media personality somehow make him more worthy of public grief than the death of (several? many?) homeless Joe(s) that froze to death in the gutter last night?

Our priorities as a society are seriously out of whack. I'm really tired of this "star" worship in the news every day.

I just lost my paternal grandmother New Year's eve after she had emergency abdominal surgery on Christmas Eve day. For some strage resaon I feel more affected by her death than Mr. Ledger's.

I concur.

Incidentally, I lost my ex-Mother-in-law at Christmas eve. Not quite the same, but she always been a good woman to me, never making assumptions.

Te really good people who pass away are never noticed and go in silence, unknown forever

Pirschjaeger
01-23-2008, 10:53 AM
Sorry for the loss of your grandmother. But it's not strange you felt this way. Neither is it strange people would show more interest in the death of an actor than in the death of a unknown homeless person.

Actors/actresses get into people's living rooms and minds. The characters they play influence peoples' thoughts. The reason an unknown homeless person gets no publicity when they die is because no one knows them.

Fritz

M_Gunz
01-23-2008, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Let's not start judging.

Fritz

What, and ruin some people's ideas of real fun and ego-fulfillment?

Pluto8742
01-23-2008, 11:03 AM
I once spent a dismal couple of days in a characterless big hotel in central Houston during a conference. One night, when I was really depressed and feeling sorry for myself, the TV had a showing of Heath Ledger in "A knight's Tale". It was great - it's a funny, silly and uplifting film. It really cheered me up. I'll remember him for that.

Cheers,

P8.

MEGILE
01-23-2008, 12:06 PM
I am looking forward to the Dark knight.. shame he won't be about to promote it

MEGILE
01-23-2008, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by M_Gunz:


What, and ruin some people's ideas of real fun and ego-fulfillment?

Ironic (or perhaps not) that it's the self-confessed religious types judging from the ubi pulpit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ratsack
01-23-2008, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by ElAurens:
Thank you jarink, you said it far better than I did.

That's because that isn't what you said.

Ratsack

Feathered_IV
01-24-2008, 01:32 AM
Just saw this. Such revolting people http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=371327

flyingloon
01-24-2008, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Just saw this. Such revolting people http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=371327
bloody hell.
i'm sure the bible has something about tolerance in it somewhere, and i can only hope that these people have a special fire reserved for them.

Waldo.Pepper
01-24-2008, 02:29 AM
Mr. Ledger's death is sad. He could have been helped if any one of a thousands things had been slightly different.

But I think a little perspective is in order.

Every 4 seconds someone dies of starvation. 75% are children.
Each flash of light represents 1 of 24,000 hunger deaths today.

http://www.worldlegacy.org/index.htm

Copperhead311th
01-24-2008, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Just saw this. Such revolting people http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=371327

I'm not an overly zelous religios man. Never have been. i may go through a few months of regular church service attendance. and i may not go for over a year. Last time my *** saw a pew was Easter Sunday last year. And i am a Southern Baptist. Yet i'm far from being a devout christian. But these whacko's give Christainity a bad name. In paticular Baptists.

A few years ago....here in Alabama we had a rash of nationaly reported church fires. While i don't agree with the ppl who set those fires...I hope that one of them get's to Westboro Baptist Church pretty soon. That place is a vipers nest of misgiuded souls who better get thier asses back on the path of rightouseness in a damn hurry. The very idea of protesting Military Funerals pisses me off beyond belief. And Legdger (as far as anyone know's) wasn't a gay cowboy...he just played one in a damn movie. How much did he make for that Picture???? Comon ppl i'm about as straight as you can get, but if some one offerd me that kinda cash to kiss another man on film....i gota tell ya, in all honsety, i'd have to consider it.
As disgusting & as unatural as it'd make me feel..i'd have to think about that one really good. Now in NO WAY what so ever do i condone homosexuality, I've never seen that movie, yet i can't condem it either. I have friends, good close friends whom i've know all my life (females) who are openly gay. I could never live that way, but what some one else does in PRIVATE out of the public eye, is thier own damn business and none of ours. And as the good Lord says, judge not lest ye be judged. And these ppl in Kansas will be jugded by his hand in his own time. I'm gonna get their address and mail the pastor thier a gift. I'm gonna go out in the yard and find me a nice larg rock and mail it to him. with note that reads " Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Amen.

lol there my does of religion for the next few months. i'm good. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Pirschjaeger
01-24-2008, 03:49 AM
Hey Copper, can I lend you my catapult? It'll save you the postage. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

Copperhead311th
01-24-2008, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Hey Copper, can I lend you my catapult? It'll save you the postage. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz
Sure, there's a rock quarry a few miles from here. is it powerful enough to luanch from Central Alabama to Eastern Kansas? (about a 14 hour car ride FYI)

Blood_Splat
01-24-2008, 05:33 AM
I just have to laugh when I hear about celebrities being exhausted lol.

Copperhead311th
01-24-2008, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
I just have to laugh when I hear about celebrities being exhausted lol.

Ever been on a film set? I have and i have seen what actors go through. I was an extra on Big Fish and The Long Walk Home. On the long walk home i watched Dylan Baker (Tunker Thompson) smoke 2 packs of ciggerettes in lil over 2 hours. AND THE GUY DOEN'T SMOKE. these ppl like the Grips, best boy, and the crew work 18-20 hour days some days on the set. an avaerage day for an actor is around 14 to 16 hours. a lot of it is hurry up and wait....but most stay busy reading scripts and reahersing while not on camera. And they travel like crazy from location to location. on Big Fish Ewan McGregor almost never left his trailer till it was time to roll film. We never saw they guy hardly.

M_Gunz
01-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M_Gunz:


What, and ruin some people's ideas of real fun and ego-fulfillment?

Ironic (or perhaps not) that it's the self-confessed religious types judging from the ubi pulpit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess you'll have to explain, including the part about are you trolling an agenda or not?
Really, I don't even know the direction you're on there.

DuxCorvan
01-24-2008, 11:59 AM
I feel pity for him, and sympathy for his family. But, to be sincere, deep inside, I don't give a cr*p.

I'm deep in love with a woman, and she may be accepting a job tomorrow that will likely take her away from my life forever.

That's I'm concerned about now, you know.

Copperhead311th
01-24-2008, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I feel pity for him, and sympathy for his family. But, to be sincere, deep inside, I don't give a cr*p.

I'm deep in love with a woman, and she may be accepting a job tomorrow that will likely take her away from my life forever.

That's I'm concerned about now, you know.

Hey Brother i've been there. what you have to decide is do you love this woman enough to give up everything and follow her dreams instead of your own. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DuxCorvan
01-24-2008, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Copperhead311th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I feel pity for him, and sympathy for his family. But, to be sincere, deep inside, I don't give a cr*p.

I'm deep in love with a woman, and she may be accepting a job tomorrow that will likely take her away from my life forever.

That's I'm concerned about now, you know.

Hey Brother i've been there. what you have to decide is do you love this woman enough to give up everything and follow her dreams instead of your own. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He! The problem is, she still doesn't even know. Well, she knows, but she mistrusts love. I'm in the right path, but I just need to buy more time. Just like SoW, I can't speed it up, or it'll go right to the bin. She cares A LOT about me, and she knows I care too, but she's a very hurt person, painfully grown skeptical about love and men's ability to commitment, and I need her to believe in it, before she can believe in me.

Otherwise, I'd be in that train with her, man.

Copperhead311th
01-24-2008, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Copperhead311th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I feel pity for him, and sympathy for his family. But, to be sincere, deep inside, I don't give a cr*p.

I'm deep in love with a woman, and she may be accepting a job tomorrow that will likely take her away from my life forever.

That's I'm concerned about now, you know.

Hey Brother i've been there. what you have to decide is do you love this woman enough to give up everything and follow her dreams instead of your own. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He! The problem is, she still doesn't even know. Well, she knows, but she mistrusts love. I'm in the right path, but I just need to buy more time. Just like SoW, I can't speed it up, or it'll go right to the bin. She cares A LOT about me, and she knows I care too, but she's a very hurt person, painfully grown skeptical about love and men's ability to commitment, and I need her to believe in it, before she can believe in me.

Otherwise, I'd be in that train with her, man. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol well like i said having been there....that was the best advice i could give ya. but i FULLY understand the situation. So if it'll help i'll say a prayer for yas as i turn on the Counting Crows and open up this cold beer here.
Cheers.

joeap
01-24-2008, 05:01 PM
Good luck Dux, you're fortunate in having the chance, even with all the risk.

Airmail109
01-24-2008, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Copperhead311th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I feel pity for him, and sympathy for his family. But, to be sincere, deep inside, I don't give a cr*p.

I'm deep in love with a woman, and she may be accepting a job tomorrow that will likely take her away from my life forever.

That's I'm concerned about now, you know.

Hey Brother i've been there. what you have to decide is do you love this woman enough to give up everything and follow her dreams instead of your own. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He! The problem is, she still doesn't even know. Well, she knows, but she mistrusts love. I'm in the right path, but I just need to buy more time. Just like SoW, I can't speed it up, or it'll go right to the bin. She cares A LOT about me, and she knows I care too, but she's a very hurt person, painfully grown skeptical about love and men's ability to commitment, and I need her to believe in it, before she can believe in me.

Otherwise, I'd be in that train with her, man. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good luck mate! Try not to get to down if It doesnt work out. Girls like that tend to burn a trail through your life like a shooting star, try and enjoy the moment with them. Unless they want to change and trust they wont.

The thing is to not get angry or depressed if it doesnt work out, if your totally cool about it youd be suprised what happens. I've known some that just suddenly click and get it then come wondering back a lot different.

SeaFireLIV
01-24-2008, 06:50 PM
Hahaaa! I have seen some emotion from Dux Corvan and not just a bunch of corny jokes 24/7! My life is complete! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Though I hope your lady-friend thing works out.

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 02:00 AM
Dux, is there the possibility of you going with her?

The first time I left north America was to be with my Egyptian girlfriend, in Egypt. In the end it didn't work out. Her father didn't agree to us getting married due to me being white. I stayed in Egypt for a year. The only thing I regret today is not putting something in her father's drink. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

Copperhead311th
01-25-2008, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Dux, is there the possibility of you going with her?

The first time I left north America was to be with my Egyptian girlfriend, in Egypt. In the end it didn't work out. Her father didn't agree to us getting married due to me being white. I stayed in Egypt for a year. The only thing I regret today is not putting something in her father's drink. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

Being white of not being Muslim?

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 08:49 AM
Being white. At the time I was a practicing Muslim. Yes, me, the great atheist. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

Ratsack
01-25-2008, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
Being white. At the time I was a practicing Muslim. Yes, me, the great atheist. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

Well, at least you've seen the light, brother.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ratsack

BSS_Goat
01-25-2008, 09:06 AM
WTH is wrong with ya'll!!! I've been away and when I get back everybody has gone gay on me!! SUCK IT UP DUX!!! YOUR A FRIKKIN FIGHTER PILOT FOR GOD'S SAKE!!

DuxCorvan
01-25-2008, 12:41 PM
Well... I didn't say a word to her. We both hate emotional blackmailing and I just couldn't betray that. Even so, she stay'd. Because "she's grown quite fond of me" (and I know better what that means in her language, specially when she leaned her head on my shoulder) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif . Well, believe me, it takes a LOT of fondness to let a work chance like that go, and I'm ready and able to compensate her for her choice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Copper, Joeap & Aimail: Thanks, guys, your advice is never heard in vain.

Seafire: Ha ha, deep inside you knew it, didn't you?

Goat: Fighting pilots have to kiss French farmer's daughters now and then... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Pirschjäger: take care man, muslims don't take well apostasy... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Well, believe me, it takes a LOT of fondness to let a work chance like that go, and I'm ready and able to compensate her for her choice. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Remember what you said regarding her views on men and commitment? If you truly love her, prove her wrong. Nothing says "commitment" more that sacrifice.



Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Pirschjäger: take care man, muslims don't take well apostasy... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

They'll be glad to see me gone. No Abrahamic religion likes to see a brother question everything. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Fritz

BSS_Goat
01-25-2008, 04:46 PM
Goat ----->http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif<------Dux

Pirschjaeger
01-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Eeeewwwwweeeee!


Pun intended. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Fritz

M_Gunz
01-26-2008, 12:46 AM
Hang in there Dux.
Just make sure that if she does love you that it's you and not you pretending to be someone else.
If you can get that then you're set, man.
Either way, win or lose, it should be worth the trip as you'll be better for it.