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SkyChimp
09-17-2006, 03:26 PM
Any Aussies out there? Please respond.

I'm fascinated with Australia. But I'd like to hear from genuine Aussies about the place.

If you were to go by what's on television in the US, you can't go anywhere in Australia without being in danger of crocs, box jellyfish, bulldog ants, funnel web spiders, redback spiders, wombats, crapping fox bats, angry kangaroos, etc.... So what's it really like? Where do all of you live? What do you do outdoors for fun? And do you have to keep a constant eye out for crocodiles?

I like to Google-Earth and Oz has to be one of my favorite places. It's amazing the miles and miles of wilderness only to come across a single house or barn out in the middle of what looks like nowhere.



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MEGILE
09-17-2006, 03:29 PM
Not an Aussie.. but +1 on google earth.

Australia is pretty much the same size as the USA, but is mostly wilderness... crazy to even imagine.

RCAF_Irish_403
09-17-2006, 03:30 PM
everything i needed to know about Australia i got from watching "Mad Max"

LStarosta
09-17-2006, 03:35 PM
I won't snorkel in Australia any more.

charliedirk
09-17-2006, 03:47 PM
im english , but live in sydney (like half of England, it seems), so only part qualified to answer your question.
Whats Oz like?..well you dont see many crocs or roos, but you do see a lot of giant cockroaches, not that the place is dirty, roches just like it out here too. The biggest menace from wildlife is probably from bluebottle and stinger jellyfish, which both pack a mean punch indeedy, stingers can be lethal. oh, and sharks, which often like to have a surfer or scuba diver for a tasty snack.
Aussies profess a dislike of both the English and Americans, but have a not so secret wish that they were either. Theyre decent enough folks, i just think its time they grew up and stopped being led by the nose by the yanks and poms in everything from language to culture to politics to crazy millitary adventures.

charliedirk
09-17-2006, 03:48 PM
oh, and by the way, hello everyone .im a newbie to flight sims in general and to this site in particular.

major_setback
09-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Australia's a lovely land,
It's full of bonzo blokes...
Sheila's, beer,
And no one's queer,
Exept in pommy jokes.



http://www.depressionet.com.au/images/wattle.gif

This here is the wattle,
It's the emblem of our land.
You can stick it in a bottle,
Or hold it in yer hand.



I'm not Australian!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'm not.

Art-J
09-17-2006, 03:52 PM
Now, that's a wicked introduction of a new forum member http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. I'm beginning to like this Charliedirk guy already http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Cheers - Art

P.S. - watch out brother, You will notice "wildlife" amongst members here many times. They don't call this place "Ubizoo" for nothing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

timholt
09-17-2006, 04:04 PM
It's the safest place in the world provided; You don't walk under the trees. The koala bears drop out of them and do their best to scalp you.
Once they launch an attack to your head the funnel web spiders are genetically hard wired to attack your legs.
The secret is to stay on your feet because if you stumble during one of these dual attacks a goanna will grab you while you are down and cart you off to his burrow and immobilise you by wrapping you in a spider like web for a tasty feast later on.
Luckily we have had a succession of wise and kindly governments who have ensured most walking paths (at least in the cities) stay reasonably clear of trees.
But then there's the house spiders who creeeeeeeeeepAAAAHHHHHHHHHH...............

DuxCorvan
09-17-2006, 04:29 PM
Due to genetic inheritance, Aussies do reproduce well in captivity. Just don't feed them after midnight, nor let them pi$s in a can: they call it "to Foster".

Beware the females, specially those with Aussie babies ("ausslings"). They are extremely sensitive to loud noises and if you shout, they may bite your scrotum off.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

carguy_
09-17-2006, 04:42 PM
Yah well animal channel showed some stuff bout spiders there.Unless you go out in the open ground there will be no tarantula to bite you.

But that`s not particular thing I`m interested in.Species that like homes are small but they are deadly too.That is ******* spooky since I hate those creatures.

Supposedly there is in Australia such a specie that when he bites you,the venom causes your tissue to decompose in he area of the bite depending on the amount of venom.The guy who was bitten had his back all covered in blood and doctors had to regenerate his skin for a while.

partic_3
09-17-2006, 04:57 PM
There is one way to find out, Skychimp... come for a visit! There is no one "Australia"; there are lots. As a tourist the one danger you have to take seriously (apart from drop bears) is the water. More tourists drown than die from all other causes of death put together... apart from drop bears. Seriously... swim between the flags! And when walking in the bush wear a spiked helmet!

partic_3
09-17-2006, 05:08 PM
Unless you go out in the open ground there will be no tarantula to bite you
The funnelweb, the world's deadliest spider, does like living indoors and at the bottom of pools. But no-ones dies from funnelweb bites since they developed the anti-venom. The white-tailed spider was rumoured to cause necrosis, a sort of flesh eating illness, but that has been pretty much proven false. They think it is just a bacterial infection.

mandrill7
09-17-2006, 06:16 PM
And what about the farking cane toads??!!! You Aussies haven't brought those little buggers up, have you?!

Hiding something as usual, I suppose.

And then there was that kangaroo with the enormously erect "appendage" that was trying to force itself on that dog in the reality video show. What if that dog had been one of us, ehh "cobber"? Not too bonzo then, mate!

smokincrater
09-17-2006, 06:43 PM
Well were should I start! Australians love the coast in particular the East coast(98 % of Australians live within 120 kilometers of a coast). Our favourite summer sport without a doubt is Cricket. Our favourite summer past time is a day at the beach(particularly Sydney is the Beach capital or though you might hear propaganda from those up north near the Gold Coast as being otherwise). During the Winter football is the go Rugby League for New South Wales and Queensland. Aussie rules for all other states. Theres a few other codes like Soccer and Rugby Union but they are not hurting anyone.
Most of our Capital cities are seperated by about a 1000 km or more not including Canberra but one one gives stuff about that boring town.
We have six states New South Wales, Victoria, Queesnland, South Australia, Western Australia and Tasmania(and one large thing called the Northern Terriorty).
Most of us like to live in houses in the subarubs of the main cities. The bulk of the country once you get past the Great Dividing Range is country plains and desert. Driving your car from town to town can take hours. The main religion in Australia is Christian and the currentacy is Australian Dollars. And we drive on the left side of the road. If there is anything else you would like to know please reply.

WskyStr8
09-17-2006, 06:44 PM
I live in southern N.S.W and I fish so I get into some fairly remote places but I've never been bothered by the wildlife in my neck of the woods. I am wary of large male 'roos as they will have a go if you get too near. Australia does have some nasties but if you don't torment them they'll leave you alone. The one exception would be crocs. I holiday every year in far North Queensland and the Northern Territory (best fishing)and I always keep a sharp look out when I'm near the water and it's not a good place to swim or wade. Can't be too bad out here though there's 20 odd million of us who seem to survive it.

major_setback
09-17-2006, 07:40 PM
All you need to know. One of the best looking fighters in the war (IMO):

Boomerang:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5471/452/1600/Boomerang.jpg

SkyChimp
09-17-2006, 07:49 PM
What about these terrible jellyfish I hear about? Does it make beachgoing impossible in certain months?

When would be a good time to visit Brisbane?

Feathered_IV
09-17-2006, 07:59 PM
Another Aussie here. Born and bred in South Australia. No crocs to worry about down this end. Plenty of sharks though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif. Quite a few surfers got eaten over the last couple of years. There are usually half a dozen or so things that can almost kill you in your own back yard. Mostly redback spiders, funnelwebs, huntsmans (big as your hand and just scare you to death)plus brown snakes or sunstroke http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Even the male platypus is poisonous. God knows why. Mostly people don't think about it much. Its only when the subject comes up and you start ticking off the number of things that can end you that you start thinking WTF??????

WskyStr8
09-17-2006, 08:00 PM
SkyChimp there is a problem with stingers at certain times if the year in North Queensland, just ask the locals in the area your visiting and use your common sense, you'll be ok. Anytime's a good time to visit Brisbane. Winter's are quite mild but it can be very hot and humid from December to February

LEXX_Luthor
09-17-2006, 08:14 PM
And stay away from the water the Aussie Crocs they jump out of the water, run backwards and SMACK you down with their tail. These are truly some aussum Aussum AUSSUM! Crocs. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

ImpStarDuece
09-17-2006, 08:37 PM
I'm an Aussie, and I've all over the continent. Born in Sydney, rasied in Melbourne (briefly) Canberra (even more briefly, thank Chr*st http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), Yass (tiny country town) and then 20 years in Sydney. I've also got relatives in Western Australia and Queensland. Sydney is now my hometown but I've lived in Seattle, Los Angeles, London and Japan, so I've got a fairly broad range for comparison.

I've got relatives from the US and the UK and their general consensus is that:

1) Its a nice place to visit, but a nicer place to live. Two lots of relatives have shifted continents to move to Sydney after coming here for holidays.

2) The attitude in Sydney and Melbourne reminds them of major cities from the 60s, everything is just a touch friendlier than they are used to in Seattle, Los Angeles and London.

3) The climate and outdoor lifestyle beats about 95% of the rest of the world hands down, at least in Sydney. Sunshine, low humidity, warm beaches, hot evenings and good (or bad) beer. Whatmore could you want?

4) Not all the wildlife is dangerous. Just most of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif. We are somehow perversly proud of the fact that we have something like 50% of the world's poisonous snake and spider species, as well as two animals on the coat of arms that could kick your stomache through your backlbone.

I think you have to be a little more aware of things when your out in the countryside, particularly up north or out west, but in general its not too bad.

Things to watch out for (in Sydney anyway):

Beaches: Blubottles (Portugese Man'o'Wars), Box Jellyfish, Blue-ringed Octopus, as well as the very occasional shark (usually just a Grey Nurse or Bronze Whaler, not usually harmful). In 20 years of living in Sydney I've seen two sharks inside the harbour.

Land: Funnel-web and Redback spiders. Poisonous but not all that common. Just wear good shoes in the garden or if your out in the bush.

As for the rest (snakes, crocs, roos, bush pigs, goannas), you've got to get out of the cities to even find them, and generally go out of your way, ignore the warnings or be REALLY STUPID to get threatned by them.

The only thing that ever really concerned me was the irukandji Jellyfish, which it about 2 cm long, practically invisible and quite painful. Victims report excruciating muscle cramps in the arms and legs, severe pain in the back and kidneys, and a burning sensation of the skin and face, headaches, nausea, restlessness, sweating, vomiting, high heart rate and blood pressure from a single sting, with lingering effects for up to 2 weeks.

Just stay away from certain parts of the far north in the summer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irukandji_jellyfish

SkyChimp
09-17-2006, 08:48 PM
It's those little jellyfish that bug me. Irukandji will kill you.

We have several varieties here where I live in Virginia, USA. The most common, the Moon jelly, doesn't have a sting that can penetrate the skin. I've picked them out of the water with no problems.

The other, the Sea Nettle, will sting the **** out of you. I've been stung on the right calf three times. Curiously, I've never been stung anywhere else. Vinegar eases the pain, but its like a bad burn for several days. Never went to the hospital, though.

We have the Man 'O War, too. I've seen them fishing offshore. My brother-in-law tried to spear one with the tip of his fishing rod when we were fishing just off the outer Banks of North Carolina. He succeeded in getting some tennicle on his rod tip. He flipped it back and forth to get it off and a piece landed on his cheek under his right eye. It swelled up to the size of a mouse. I laughed so hard beer came out of my nose. To this day, he has a brown scar there.

charliedirk
09-17-2006, 11:12 PM
avoid backpackers, particulary around Bondi Beach, they`re so annoying you`ll want to smack a few of them...
Be careful walking under trees at night, after spending the evening in the pub, when youre not very sober, and a fruit bat decides youd make a legit target for a load of guano..believe me, i speak from experience.
best thing about oz is the climate, im a glider pilot and being able to go on soaring flights of 2 hours or more in the middle of winter is absolutely bloody brilliant , especially when the average winter flight in the UK is 5 minutes.

tagTaken2
09-18-2006, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
When would be a good time to visit Brisbane?

After every other city in australia has been destroyed.

Seriously, Qld is weird.

You might want to check out this too:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416315/

YAKMAN1968
09-18-2006, 03:18 AM
The one main thing to watch out in sydney is Oxford Street...... if you drop your wallet DON'T bend over to pick it up..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Xiolablu3
09-18-2006, 03:26 AM
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

HotelBushranger
09-18-2006, 03:29 AM
Any Aussies out there? Please respond.

I'm fascinated with Australia. But I'd like to hear from genuine Aussies about the place.

If you were to go by what's on television in the US, you can't go anywhere in Australia without being in danger of crocs, box jellyfish, bulldog ants, funnel web spiders, redback spiders, wombats, crapping fox bats, angry kangaroos, etc.... So what's it really like? Where do all of you live? What do you do outdoors for fun? And do you have to keep a constant eye out for crocodiles?

I like to Google-Earth and Oz has to be one of my favorite places. It's amazing the miles and miles of wilderness only to come across a single house or barn out in the middle of what looks like nowhere.


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif And we all know American TV stations, thousands of kilometres away have the utmost expertese on the subject!

I live in the suburbs south of the Perth CBD. Honestly ey, you don't see any of that stuff. I don't really go to the beach but go bush a coupla times a year, and the biggest thing thats attacked me has been a tic (http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Oh the horror!)

So until you really go bush (i.e. finger up Ulurus bum) you should be alright.

ploughman
09-18-2006, 03:32 AM
Us poms always seem to have a morbid fear of Australian wildlife. With the exception of the Adder, we slaughtered everything dangerous on our island centuries ago and are babes in the wood when it comes to psycho fauna, hapless morons just begging to be bit, stung, lacerated, and devoured. That cretin who had to be saved twice in one week is a perfect example, he was under equipped for a trip to the shops let alone a week in the outback.

Australia sounds like a top place. Even the Australians are supposed to be nice, unlike the Earls Court variety we get here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Friendly_flyer
09-18-2006, 03:33 AM
As allways, the most dangerous animal around by a good margin are humans, The big differnce between Auistralia and mainland Europe is that the margin is a tad smaller in Australia.

HotelBushranger
09-18-2006, 03:37 AM
That cretin who had to be saved twice in one week is a perfect example, he was under equipped for a trip to the shops let alone a week in the outback.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif That's bloody hilarious mate!

slipBall
09-18-2006, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
As allways, the most dangerous animal around by a good margin are humans, The big differnce between Auistralia and mainland Europe is that the margin is a tad smaller in Australia.


Are there decendents of the old penal colony lurking about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

JG10r_Bull
09-18-2006, 03:53 AM
HAHAH alot **** there Queenslanders R weird (up ours) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif i bet u r from NSW. now to see Roos u have to go bush like in singleton (NSW) the place is full of them. in place's there that bad there a prob. As for Croc's well when i was younger and lived in Rockhampton (QLD) the river that runs though the heart of the city there r croc's and if u go up river there r Dolphins. we used to swim with them. but we had a lookout in the tree's we used to up out of.
as croc's will come up before thay attack. as 4 Redbacks in QLD out bush if u see a pice of Iron and pick it up 9/10 time's there will be a redback under it... hope that helps http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

BTW:
as well as two animals on the coat of arms that could kick your stomache through your backbone

and on our Army Inf bagde there's a roo. Y u say...the kangaroo can't hope backwards..and the Australian Infantry never Retreats.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e337/zoe03/rqr-42-bw1.jpg theres a Pic for u http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

and 42nd is my unit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

WTE_Moleboy
09-18-2006, 04:02 AM
Watch out for Queenslanders, generally if you go any north of Brisabane you will only find bogans and tourists http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif Seriously, visit Perth, most isolated capital city in the world. The other place worth visiting is Broome. Check out aussie rules footy
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/05/09/spt_200_afl.jpg

JG10r_Bull
09-18-2006, 04:14 AM
O and one more thing <span class="ev_code_RED">(LOOK OUT 4 THE BABY STEALING DINGOS)</span> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

MadRuski
09-18-2006, 04:40 AM
ahhhh were getting into the summer months here in Brisbane....come for a visit http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BADroadrunner
09-18-2006, 04:44 AM
well i guess it is true. ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap. also from what i herd they all saypeople from sydney are all ignorent fools. so i guess they are right again. id rather live in a place were if some 1 ( or something) attacks you, you can fight back, instead of were you hurt a roo thats attaacking you, you get to go to prison.

Originally posted by charliedirk:
im english , but live in sydney (like half of England, it seems), so only part qualified to answer your question.
Whats Oz like?..well you dont see many crocs or roos, but you do see a lot of giant cockroaches, not that the place is dirty, roches just like it out here too. The biggest menace from wildlife is probably from bluebottle and stinger jellyfish, which both pack a mean punch indeedy, stingers can be lethal. oh, and sharks, which often like to have a surfer or scuba diver for a tasty snack.
Aussies profess a dislike of both the English and Americans, but have a not so secret wish that they were either. Theyre decent enough folks, i just think its time they grew up and stopped being led by the nose by the yanks and poms in everything from language to culture to politics to crazy millitary adventures.

JG10r_Bull
09-18-2006, 04:46 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BADroadrunner:
well i guess it is true. ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap. also from what i herd they all saypeople from sydney are all ignorent fools. so i guess they are right again. id rather live in a place were if some 1 ( or something) attacks you, you can fight back, instead of were you hurt a roo thats attaacking you, you get to go to prison.
[QUOTE]

LOL sorry but u can shoot Roos in OZ u just have to get a Licence. and if it was attacking u that would be very different story. BTW: u did not save us from the japs mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

charliedirk
09-18-2006, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by BADroadrunner:
well i guess it is true. ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap. also from what i herd they all saypeople from sydney are all ignorent fools. so i guess they are right again. id rather live in a place were if some 1 ( or something) attacks you, you can fight back, instead of were you hurt a roo thats attaacking you, you get to go to prison.



gibberish or wot?...why would a roo attack you?.."ignorent" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif ?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by charliedirk:
im english , but live in sydney (like half of England, it seems), so only part qualified to answer your question.
Whats Oz like?..well you dont see many crocs or roos, but you do see a lot of giant cockroaches, not that the place is dirty, roches just like it out here too. The biggest menace from wildlife is probably from bluebottle and stinger jellyfish, which both pack a mean punch indeedy, stingers can be lethal. oh, and sharks, which often like to have a surfer or scuba diver for a tasty snack.
Aussies profess a dislike of both the English and Americans, but have a not so secret wish that they were either. Theyre decent enough folks, i just think its time they grew up and stopped being led by the nose by the yanks and poms in everything from language to culture to politics to crazy millitary adventures. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

charliedirk
09-18-2006, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

have a close read thru WWW.immi.gov.au (http://WWW.immi.gov.au)
best of luck

WTE_Moleboy
09-18-2006, 05:02 AM
ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap.

Thast funny M8 I am an australian, lived here all my life, and naturally I have talked to more than a few australians. I have not met any who love America, BTW, the not speaking Jap thing had a very little to do with america, Japanese plans for invading Australia were stopped by Australians on the Kokoda trail.

JG10r_Bull
09-18-2006, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Moleboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap.

Thast funny M8 I am an australian, lived here all my life, and naturally I have talked to more than a few australians. I have not met any who love America, However I have found lots who hate america. BTW, the not speaking Jap thing had a very little to do with america, <span class="ev_code_RED">Japanese plans for invading Australia were stopped by Australians on the Kokoda trail</span> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

this Calls 4 a <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Aussie</span> <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Aussie</span> <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Aussie</span>

Feathered_IV
09-18-2006, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by tagTaken2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SkyChimp:
When would be a good time to visit Brisbane?

After every other city in australia has been destroyed.

Seriously, Qld is weird.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif Its true!

Xiolablu3, don't worry about the pot thing. It's largely decriminalised in SA (in a sharehouse of mine, a flatmate got fined $480 for having nine 3-metre plants growing in the backyard - when he was only allowed a maximum of three!)

It varies from state to state. Queeensland is the worst I think. Northern Territory is the slackest http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

smokincrater
09-18-2006, 05:25 AM
Originally posted by slipBall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Friendly_flyer:
As allways, the most dangerous animal around by a good margin are humans, The big differnce between Auistralia and mainland Europe is that the margin is a tad smaller in Australia.

Are there decendents of the old penal colony lurking about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your talking to one.

AlGroover
09-18-2006, 05:29 AM
The thing you must remember, Mr Chimp, is that it's a national pastime to recite the list of the world's most venomous / poisonous / dangerous that live here. Usually with one exception - the stonefish. This is because it's much too horrible to talk about. Read about it here at www.amonline.net.au/FISHES/students/focus/sverruc.htm (http://www.amonline.net.au/FISHES/students/focus/sverruc.htm)

smokincrater
09-18-2006, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

Check with the Embassy but I am sure your cool, just don`t carry the AK in!

smokincrater
09-18-2006, 05:36 AM
Unlike our Prime Minister America is not on the top popluar destinations for Australians. I was once speaking with a copule of Candians and they said we have the same attitude to Americans!

But like Britain Australia was engaged in all six years of WWII. And the reason that we needed a hand with the Japanese is because most of our best units were busy fighting the Germans!

Ratsack
09-18-2006, 05:39 AM
€¦and then there€s the real tropical north: Darwin. The water is a beautiful azure or stunning turquoise and absolutely deadly to dangle a toe into. It€s only there to tease. The denizens with dubious eating habits include salt water crocodiles, fresh water crocs (but never in the same spot: the salties don€t mind fresh water, and they don€t mind eating freshies, either)€¦and that€s about it. There are more sharks than you can poke a stick at in the Arafura sea, but if they come inshore, the salties snack on them. I have a series of excellent jpegs on my work computer of a 12 foot saltie dragging a fair-size shark kicking and thrashing out of the water. I kid you not. The local rag usually features a crocodile story front page (€œCrocodile Jumps at Car!€ Seriously. We had that one a few months ago). We lose a couple of people a year to croc attacks, and no, they€re not all tourists.

However, there are a veritable host of other things in the water that will happily snuff you: they just won€t deign to trough you afterwards. These include the lovely little blue-ring octopus, all the various stinging bastard jellyfish, and the friggin stone fish. This last worthy sits on the bottom, making its living by pretending to be €" you guessed it €" a stone. Step on the little blighter, and you€ll discover a whole new world of hurt as razor-sharp poisonous spines pierce the flesh and bone of your foot, spearing your brain with agony, following which you happily die to escape the pain. No joke.

Then there are the snakes, who are not by any means confined to the north. Their deadliness is usually summarized by saying that Australia possesses nine of the ten most poisonous snakes in the world. Which is actually to say, that the nine most poisonous snakes all live in Oz. Terrific. The good news is that they€ll usually run like buggery to get out of your blundering way. Unless you€re unlucky enough to step on a cold King Brown or Tiger, you€ll probably never see one, much less have to worry about €˜em. If you do get bitten, you€re stuffed without immediate medical attention.

The stuff about the Funnel Web spiders is all true, but nobody has mentioned two critical facts about them. The first is that they€re the most aggressive, bloody-minded, vicious arachnoid bastards you€re ever likely to meet. If you disturb one and then get out of its way, it may very well go after you just on general principle. The second salient point about these lovlies, is that they only live in and around Sydney. Which is good. However, they have been found as far a field as Canberra. They like holes and dark places. Shoes are good, for example.

Red Backs are everywhere. We€ve even exported them to Japan, and they say they love the place. Somebody wrote that you€ll only get them in the bush. Bullsh1t. My experience (from both sides of this continent, and the benighted north), is that the largest examples are usually to be found in the garden shed. They make a crazy, random-looking web that serves them quite well: well enough to catch skinks (a type of small lizard, about 10 cm long). I€ve frequently found the desiccated husks of unfortunate lizards underneath Redback webs. The good news is that the bite is really painful, but unlikely to cause you serious problems€¦unless you€re one of the significant proportion of the human population who happen to be allergic to the little buggers. In this case, you€ve got a generous half-hour to get medical help. You may have difficulty breathing if you leave it longer.

Apart from that, it€s perfectly safe.


cheers,
Ratsack

skarden
09-18-2006, 05:51 AM
Originally posted by JG10r_Bull:
BTW, the not speaking Jap thing had a very little to do with america, <span class="ev_code_RED">Japanese plans for invading Australia were stopped by Australians on the Kokoda trail</span>

this Calls 4 a <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Aussie</span> <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Aussie</span> <span class="ev_code_GREEN">Aussie</span>[/QUOTE]

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">oi oi oi</span>!!
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WTE_Moleboy
09-18-2006, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Ratsack:
€¦and then there€s the real tropical north: Darwin. The water is a beautiful azure or stunning turquoise and absolutely deadly to dangle a toe into. It€s only there to tease. The denizens with dubious eating habits include salt water crocodiles, fresh water crocs (but never in the same spot: the salties don€t mind fresh water, and they don€t mind eating freshies, either)€¦and that€s about it. There are more sharks than you can poke a stick at in the Arafura sea, but if they come inshore, the salties snack on them. I have a series of excellent jpegs on my work computer of a 12 foot saltie dragging a fair-size shark kicking and thrashing out of the water. I kid you not. The local rag usually features a crocodile story front page (€œCrocodile Jumps at Car!€ Seriously. We had that one a few months ago). We lose a couple of people a year to croc attacks, and no, they€re not all tourists.

However, there are a veritable host of other things in the water that will happily snuff you: they just won€t deign to trough you afterwards. These include the lovely little blue-ring octopus, all the various stinging bastard jellyfish, and the friggin stone fish. This last worthy sits on the bottom, making its living by pretending to be €" you guessed it €" a stone. Step on the little blighter, and you€ll discover a whole new world of hurt as razor-sharp poisonous spines pierce the flesh and bone of your foot, spearing your brain with agony, following which you happily die to escape the pain. No joke.

Then there are the snakes, who are not by any means confined to the north. Their deadliness is usually summarized by saying that Australia possesses nine of the ten most poisonous snakes in the world. Which is actually to say, that the nine most poisonous snakes all live in Oz. Terrific. The good news is that they€ll usually run like buggery to get out of your blundering way. Unless you€re unlucky enough to step on a cold King Brown or Tiger, you€ll probably never see one, much less have to worry about €˜em. If you do get bitten, you€re stuffed without immediate medical attention.

The stuff about the Funnel Web spiders is all true, but nobody has mentioned two critical facts about them. The first is that they€re the most aggressive, bloody-minded, vicious arachnoid bastards you€re ever likely to meet. If you disturb one and then get out of its way, it may very well go after you just on general principle. The second salient point about these lovlies, is that they only live in and around Sydney. Which is good. However, they have been found as far a field as Canberra. They like holes and dark places. Shoes are good, for example.

Red Backs are everywhere. We€ve even exported them to Japan, and they say they love the place. Somebody wrote that you€ll only get them in the bush. Bullsh1t. My experience (from both sides of this continent, and the benighted north), is that the largest examples are usually to be found in the garden shed. They make a crazy, random-looking web that serves them quite well: well enough to catch skinks (a type of small lizard, about 10 cm long). I€ve frequently found the desiccated husks of unfortunate lizards underneath Redback webs. The good news is that the bite is really painful, but unlikely to cause you serious problems€¦unless you€re one of the significant proportion of the human population who happen to be allergic to the little buggers. In this case, you€ve got a generous half-hour to get medical help. You may have difficulty breathing if you leave it longer.

Apart from that, it€s perfectly safe.


cheers,
Ratsack

Mind sharing some of those piccies ratsack? I saw something along those lines a few months back in The West but it was somewhat grainy.

Ratsack
09-18-2006, 06:53 AM
No worries. I'l have a look when I get to the orifice tomorrow.

Ratasck

Von_Rat
09-18-2006, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Moleboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap.

Thast funny M8 I am an australian, lived here all my life, and naturally I have talked to more than a few australians. I have not met any who love America, However I have found lots who hate america. BTW, the not speaking Jap thing had a very little to do with america, Japanese plans for invading Australia were stopped by Australians on the Kokoda trail. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


agreed,,, but the battle of the coral sea helped a little im sure.

panther3485
09-18-2006, 08:26 AM
SkyChimp, I've lived and travelled all over Australia but these days, a suburb of Perth, Western Australia, is home.

The dangers from the 'wildlife' are grossly exaggerated by many, but they do exist and in certain times and places you need to be careful about certain things, but if you clue yourself up a bit and use common sense, you should be perfectly safe.

Australia has an enormous variety of terrain, scenery and natural wonders - lots to see and do, particularly if you are an 'outdoorsy', adventurous sort of guy.

And forget all the bunk some guys claim about State A being better than State B etc. Each of the States and Territories is a great place to visit, each with its own attractions and most Aussies, most everywhere around the country, are pretty friendly.

If you ever decide to visit, you would certainly be a very welcome guest at my place!

Best regards, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
panther3485

P.S. There are Kangaroos and Wallabies very close to, and sometimes in, the newer suburbs on the fringes of Perth at least. The occasional dead animal on the road is testimony to this and unfortunately, I hit one less than a mile from my house early one morning. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif You don't generally see them about all that much, however, unless you go further afield or visit a wildlife sanctuary, of which there are a few around the fringes of the metro area.

Xiolablu3
09-18-2006, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the answer Feathered and Smokincrater.

I had heard that you were not let in to Aus if you had ANY convictons at all you see.

I had been to a party and totally forgot I had a tiny bit (about 3 worth) in my 'johnny pocket' of my jeans. Some copper searched me and I was wisked off the the station and booked. Oooops

Brain32
09-18-2006, 10:12 AM
I had been to a party and totally forgot I had a tiny bit (about 3 worth) in my 'johnny pocket' of my jeans. Some copper searched me and I was wisked off the the station and booked. Oooops
Hehe I never forget such things, and I always get rid of it in time, I'm the only one of my m8's that never got booked for that. Partially that's the reason they gave me this nickname http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MaxMhz
09-18-2006, 10:20 AM
I'm not an Australian, but what's the problem SkyChimp - you won't make it to the plane anyway because everyone here in Europe knows you'll be shot dead before you reach it with all the gun crazy Americans that run around - We see that all the time on our TV's - so it must be true http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif If you manage to get around that you'll probably be bitten by a rattlesnake or a black widow :lol:

SkyChimp
09-18-2006, 05:04 PM
Let's knock off the who-loves-who talk. I don't care what Aussies think of Americans, anymore than Americans care what the French think, or what the British think of the Dutch. I've met several Aussies here in the US. Some I liked, some I didn't, and one I had sex with. It just doesn't matter, except with the one I had sex with (and when it was over that didn't matter, either).

Speaking of the stonefish, we have a nasty fish here that looks vaguely like it - the toadfish (or oystercracker). They make nests in shallow water and are so protective of their nests they will stay on them even as the tide goes out leaving them laying on the mud. They are great bait thieves and I hook a lot of them fishing for other species. No one dies from them, and hardly anyone gets stuck anymore, but my dad was stuck, and the pain can be debilitating. When you catch one, you use long pliers to get your hook out. Curiously, I know people that have eaten them and I understand they are among the best tasting fish one can eat.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/Toadfish/toadfish%20mouth%20wwm.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Gulf_toadfish.jpg
http://www.chesapeakebay.net/Info/toadfish.cfm

luftluuver
09-18-2006, 05:06 PM
I've met several Aussies here in the US. Some I liked, some I didn't, and one I had sex with. Female I hope. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

blakduk
09-18-2006, 07:43 PM
Skychimp- if your coming to Aus, make sure you allow plenty of time for travelling around. This place is as big as mainland USA with a total population of just over 20million- and most people live on the east coast. That leaves a lot of room in the middle with hardly anyone in it.
It spreads from tropics in the north to almost the antarctic in the south- we even have snow. One year i had a holiday for 3 weeks that involved snorkelling of the Barrier reef followed by skiing in the Snowy Mountains.
To give an example of the size, i rode back from the motoGP on Phillip Island yesterday. My bike has a range of around 300km (190 miles), i had to be careful of the route that i chose as i wasnt sure i could get to the next fuel stop if i went over the mountains. What is remarkable about this is that i live on the far south coast of New South Wales, a relatively populated area of the country!
As for the idiot comment someone made about 'we all hate the USA', you can see we have our share of ignorant fools as well. We dont all like everything the USA does, but i generally find its only the people who havent travelled and get all their opinions from the TV that make such generalised comments. I spoke with a number of Yanks at the track just last weekend and they were all good blokes. We just talked about bikes, travelling, beer, women (the usual), and the F/A18 that was pulling some serious G over our heads.
As for the dangerous wildlife- there is some stuff over here that can kill you, but you have to be VERY unlucky. Truth is we live in one of the safest, most comfortable countries in the world. We dont like to tell people that because it makes us sound more heroic if we make mundane chores like going to the toilet sound adventurous by saying we fought past redback spiders on the way.
Take some time to check out the war memorial in Canberra- it's got a great display of WW2 aircraft (as well as the Red Baron's boots!).
If you have lots of time, visit the aircraft display at Temora.
When you come here you may be surprised at how similar it is to parts of the USA, but the differences will show themselves in remarkable and subtle ways.
BTW- the USA did save our a*ses in WW2, we did a lot of the fighting but without their support we would have been cactus.
And one of my mother's ancestors was a convict, something my father pointed out to her whenever we got into trouble http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

tagTaken2
09-18-2006, 08:02 PM
He's not australian, but if you have the time before you leave, I'd recommend Bill Bryson's book, Down Under. He seems to enjoy us, but he's more than happy to rip on australians for their faults. Entertaining, informative, and pissfunny.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-18-2006, 08:23 PM
Bryson gave Britain the same treatment in 'Notes From A Small Island' and has ripped into his native USA too in other volumes. Great books.

Well, speaking as a Pom, the thing I like about the Aussies I've met is their "Fair go, mate" attitude - anyone can be anything where they come from. Probably why they do so well at sport (don't tell them I said that when the Ashes cricket games start). Good luck to 'em, I say.

NekoReaperman
09-18-2006, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by JG10r_Bull:
BTW: u did not save us from the japs mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Team effort!


*ocean-spanning high-five*

huggy87
09-18-2006, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Ratsack:


Red Backs are everywhere. We€ve even exported them to Japan, and they say they love the place. Somebody wrote that you€ll only get them in the bush. Bullsh1t. My experience (from both sides of this continent, and the benighted north), is that the largest examples are usually to be found in the garden shed. They make a crazy, random-looking web that serves them quite well: well enough to catch skinks (a type of small lizard, about 10 cm long). I€ve frequently found the desiccated husks of unfortunate lizards underneath Redback webs. The good news is that the bite is really painful, but unlikely to cause you serious problems€¦unless you€re one of the significant proportion of the human population who happen to be allergic to the little buggers. In this case, you€ve got a generous half-hour to get medical help. You may have difficulty breathing if you leave it longer.

Apart from that, it€s perfectly safe.


cheers,
Ratsack

Your redbacks sound a lot like our black widows. I must kill about a dozen a year around my house here in California. They make distincive webs too and usually hide out in corners and other dark places. They love woodpiles especially. Luckily, they are not agressive. Those funnelwebs sound terrible.

blakduk
09-18-2006, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
Your redbacks sound a lot like our black widows. I must kill about a dozen a year around my house here in California. They make distincive webs too and usually hide out in corners and other dark places. They love woodpiles especially. Luckily, they are not agressive. Those funnelwebs sound terrible.

Huggy- Redbacks are a type of Black Widow, only a bit more deadly and the females have the distinctive red marking on their abdomen. They are not particularly aggressive either.

Feathered_IV
09-18-2006, 11:41 PM
Redbacks love dry areas. Garden sheds and outdoor dunnies are a particular favourite. There is a bit of mantis in the females too. During mating, the male often winds up being eaten.

timholt
09-19-2006, 12:40 AM
Feathered, whereabouts in Adelaide are you? I'm at Payneham.

timholt
09-19-2006, 12:54 AM
W.r.t. redbacks, having been bitten by one on the upper thigh adjacent to the scrotum (in my own backyard) - I can attest to the fact that their bite is reasonably fearsome in sensitive areas. By sensitive areas I'm not talking about the backyard.

Feathered_IV
09-19-2006, 12:55 AM
I'm in Melbourne these days, but I grew up in the Golden Grove/Tea Tree Gully area http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif.

Prop_Strike
09-19-2006, 01:23 AM
I live in the northern suburbs of Brisbane(Qld), and Ya gotta love it here....beautiful weather, great outdoor lifestyle...very laid back.
I've got the Gold Coast an hour to the south & the Sunshine Coast 45 mins to the north and no matter which direction ya go.....you're gonna see some of the hottest girls in the world on any of the beaches. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Last year around the time of the Indy Carnival, I was enjoying flying over Surfer's Paradise,at 500 feet, with the Indycar track to my left, and the beautful beach just under my left wing.
Then flew back to Redcliffe flying over the coastline and a few different islands on the way...just nice.
I don't think I would live anywhere else for too long....I have been to L.A, Vegas and Florida...great places, and all the people I met were very nice and treated me very well.....It just wasn't...home http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

B.T.W Sometimes the Roos can be a pain....Me and a mate had to go around a few that didn't want to move from the runway when we were taking off at Caboolture airport a little while ago... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

ploughman
09-19-2006, 01:52 AM
I remember being stood up to my knees in the Java Sea one time and thinking, 'this doesn't suck very much' and looking down and seeing a nasty little Stone Fish hunkered down in the sand about a palm's width from my soft and ever so exposed right foot. I retreated like I was in a mine field, very slowly and deliberately.

Later that day I got some posionous tendril across my chest whilst swimming and looked liked I'd been bull whipped for the rest of the week. That hurt.

That's got nothing to do with Australia, but alot to do with scarey animals.

charliedirk
09-19-2006, 02:12 AM
Scariest animals in Australia are the sheilas..man, they jez eat you up and chew you out..and you wot?, i woudldnt live anywhere else

WOODY01
09-19-2006, 07:57 AM
Ive just returned to New Zealand after spending 5 years in Australia, WTF was I thinking! Australia is awsome, I miss it every day, but it seems Im somewhat stuck here for now (dont worry Ill be back to claim my super ann!) I had a fantastic time in Australaia, meet the best friends I have there in droves and had the best employment oppertunitys Ive ever had there, again WTF was I thinking heading back to New Zealand - the second best contry in the world http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif. Sure I got sick and tired of haveing to 'Put the Huntsmen out', the wildlift can be a bit intrusive at times, but I was humbled by the typical Aussie attitude to the nastys, simply 'Bloody ugly thing - squash' Us Kiwis run around going "ewwh ewwh ewwh!" (as we have no dangerouse wildlife here - too cold).

I really miss Australia, I miss there pride as Aussies, there attitude, there honesty (mostly) and just the massive country itself. Ill be back for sure and Sky Chimp if you get the chance go there and never leave.

Dunhill_BKK
09-20-2006, 03:29 AM
G'day as one of Australia's newest citizens I feel it is my duty to reply to this post.

I've lived here for 10 years and the closest I've come to being harmed by wildlife has been catching the front wheel of a motorcycle when a rabbit warren collapsed under it. I've seen a number of venomous snakes and spiders and not felt threatened by any of them.

The wildlife is really quite nice to have about. Kangaroos are present in places you might not expect, like Canberra. I can take you to see wild roos within a couple minutes of the parliment. I've got all manner of birds and lizards in my backyard.

Its a great place for naturalists and people who want to get away from it all. Just don't get lost in the bush. Its not the animals that kill folks in Australia its the landscape and the tyranny of distance that kill people. Be bloody careful about where you go and tell somebody when you;ll be back.

And as someone else already said swimm between the bloody flags. That probably kills more tourists than anything else. One of my scariest moments was being caught in a rip on an unguarded beach in the country.

Be safe SkyChimp and enjoy your visit if you come down.

Grue_
09-20-2006, 05:11 AM
Although Australian wildlife deserves certain respect from unwary travellers, it can't be as lethal as British wildlife.

Travellers to Britain should be aware of our most dangerous species of wildlife known as 'children'.

Not all species are dangerous, the dangerous ones can be identified by thier appearence which consists of baseball cap, hoodie top and words emblazoned across their clothing such as 'Adidas', 'Nike' or similar.

This species can be found hanging around on street corners, drinking and smoking and are alert to approaching danger by constantly scanning their surroundings by quick darting movement of their heads - a bit like meerkats.

You should not approach these groups as you will probably be challenged, then stabbed gouged and stomped until unconcious or dead.

Warning - feral children are a protected species in the UK. Any attempt to harm this species will result in an avalanche of police, social workers and other officials with important sounding names and you will spend the rest of your life in prison.

Ratsack
09-20-2006, 05:56 AM
Originally posted by Dunhill_BKK:


I've lived here for 10 years and the closest I've come to being harmed by wildlife has been catching the front wheel of a motorcycle when a rabbit warren collapsed under it. I've seen a number of venomous snakes and spiders and not felt threatened by any of them.

.

Dunhill_BKK is right, but there are some things you just shouldn't do if you don't want a very unpleasant and potentially fatal experience. These include:

1. Don't go rock fishing on the south coasts of WA or SA, unless you're daft.

2. Don't forget to bang out your runners / boots / sneakers before putting them on in the morning when camping.

3. Don't forget to carry lots of water with you when you travel inland: cars break down, and passers-by can be few and far between if you're off the beaten track. No, beer does not count.

4. Don't walk around in scrubby, grassy country in anything less robust than boots. The day you forget, you'll step on a snake. This includes urban areas. I've seen Dugites (a type of brown snake) and Black Snakes in built-up, suburban areas.

5. Don't forget that if you see a snake, you should go the other way. Noisily. Do not wait to identify the bastard: it's poisnous, OK?

6. Don't stick your hands or feet anywhere you can't see. If it's dark, and it hasn't been disturbed for a while, it's somebody's home. A lot of the tenants have teeth and venom of some sort. It's not exageration, it's just the way it is. Common sense rules.

7. Don't go into the water in the north of this country until you've checked with the locals. The crocs, sharks, jellyfish and stonefish are REAL. This includes rivers, too. If the locals won't go in, or if there are signs saying you shouldn't, you can assume it's dangerous. The people that die usually ignore these warnings.

It's not rocket science. Like Dunhill said, if you're not a complete d1ckhead you'll be fine.


cheers,
Ratsack

PS - I forgot: don't drink Emu Export either.

ploughman
09-20-2006, 06:08 AM
8. Don't get pissed and fiddle with a snake, beer is not anti-venom.

"Tarmoola [Gold Mine], North of Leonora 4 Dec 1997: male, 33 years (Murray Plane). Western brownsnake or gwardar (Pseudonaja nuchalis). Man inebriated and handling snake which he and friends found in miners' quarters during the night of 1 Dec. Signs of multiple bites on hands. No immediate first aid. Air-ambulanced to Royal Perth Hospital where he subsequently died on 4 Dec. - determined to be deceased while on ventilator."

JerryFodder
09-20-2006, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
Not an Aussie.. but +1 on google earth.

Australia is pretty much the same size as the USA, but is mostly wilderness... crazy to even imagine.


Eh? Did you pass geography at school? It's not even close. Your geography is so bad you must be american http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

snooper2
09-20-2006, 08:24 AM
SkyChimp
Forget all the "Nasty Bity" stories; normal people using common sense don't have any troubles.
Oz is a big country and although it has it's share of "Richard Craniums" there is plenty of space to move on and avoid them.
Just spent a couple of weeks in a place called Whyalla in South Aust. The manager of the Westlands pub (hotel) also runs fishing trips.
An accountant from West Aust went out with him on a Saturday night and caught two 8 Kilo Snapper (Good fighter great eating).
I had the pleasure of cooking them on an open BBQ. Nice beer (Can be got) Great wine (Sth Aust). Bloody bonza mate.
regards snooper.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
PS. Love Queensland also.

panther3485
09-20-2006, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by JerryFodder:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
Not an Aussie.. but +1 on google earth.
Australia is pretty much the same size as the USA, but is mostly wilderness... crazy to even imagine.

Eh? Did you pass geography at school? It's not even close. Your geography is so bad you must be american http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Megile may be thinking of the contiguous states of the USA only (that is, excluding Alaska and Hawaii), in which case Australia is of a comparable size, IIRC.

BiscuitKnight
09-20-2006, 09:01 AM
A lot has been said here that's pretty good, but I'll venture my 2c

I've lived in Bendigo, or 15 minutes outside it really, all my 17 years, though I've lived for a few months up North in N.S.W. but that was never intended to be permanent, nor was it, and I've been around the State and some of Queensland and SA, but not much. I'd say Australia's much like the US: a big country with people who vary a fair bit but share enough traits to consider themselves and be considered by others as a nation.

Bendigo, for example, is almost like parts of the rural US, whereas I'd venture Melbourne and Sydney are more like New York or Seattle, though I don't mean to say you'd enter either and think of those US cities, just that for comparison that's the best I can think of.

Bendigo's a strange place, a real four seasons in one day type of place as far as weather's concerned, as a rule in winter it rarely gets above 10 degrees celcius, and a night drops regularly as low as -5. Summer can hit 45 around mid day and after, but drop to less than 20 by night, or conversely some nights are over 30. The Queenslanders who moved here for whatever reason that I've known have loathed the place at first, then regarded it with a certain affection. Pretty much all my memories of this town include fairly strong breezes or gusting winds, although like pretty much every other aspect of Bendigo weather, that's no rule, because right now its dead calm.

Melbourne's about 200km South, but the weather's much colder (Great Dividing Range comes into play there, I guess, which is why most of Victoria's land is fairly dry, though grassy and used to be forested). The danger on a Melbourne beach is stepping on a discarded syringe/broken bottle http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and that's not really an exaggeration. Might see the occasional penguin around Melbourne piers. There are a lot more skyscrapers now, I've noticed. I used to visit Melbourne quite frequently the last three years, and I noticed that in that time the towers have at least doubled, by my reckoning.

New South Wales I find is much the same, a large capital with a different lifestyle to the country, it seems country kids move to the capitals and capital city adults move to the country. I guess both recognise the troubles of their lifestyle and believe the benefits of the other are higher. Personally I would never happily choose live in suburbs, it's much too close to the neighbours.

Wildlife? Kangaroos are more common than sheep here, and to a small degree, protected - as said above, you can get a license and shoot them, but to a larger degree they're protected: thousands bred inside the Army base at Pukkapanyal (sp?). Because they were fenced in they couldn't move to where food was more abundant, they were starving, there's a drought, making food even more scarce, and it was a pretty sad situation. The Army wanted to cull them all, but the Greenies had this crazy idea that they were better off alive and starving than dead. The population was unnaturally large and needed control, but not even the Army could get permission to kill thousands of them. Maybe they're like deer in the US?

From my experience, you can see a Kangaroo in the suburbs occasionally (though quickly removed) and just outside, in paddocks, they roam in massive mobs. Nothing special there, really. Same with snakes, koalas, and pretty much anything you can name. You see snakes in the city a bit more than roos.

Spiders aren't so bad in my part of the country, I hear from Queenslanders that you bit put four outside a night. Where I am, I see probably less than a dozen during the whole of summer when they're common, and generally in winter I don't see them. When we see spiders here, we don't usually feel some benevolence and put them out, we kill them with the most efficient means at hand. Usually I spray them so I don't have to clean up spider guts.

The most common spider here would be the Huntsman, always above ten centimetres across, in my experience (except babies), the largest I saw would have been just shy of a foot, but they're all legs. They're pretty unnerving to see, but I just wouldn't want one to crawl on me is all: they give you cramps and maybe an infection, apparently, though I've never been bitten, probably because they're very quick to run off rather than attack. Redbacks tend to give me a little jolt when I see them, because they're small and deadly, so generally you pick something up and dislodge them, so they scurry right past your hand, or over it, and it's only after they've disappeared that it sinks in that this thing is lethal. Every year some new verdict on their lethality is released, but I was always taught they're deadly, and that's what I'll always believe. They tend to live in packs, I found. They get somewhere they like to live (they seem to like red things more than other colours, which is strange) and then a whole bunch of them seem to create a nest together.

People say Funnel Webs don't live in Victoria, but check Wikipedia and it lists Victorian species. I've seen a lot of these horrible creatures - Redbacks and Huntsmen I dislike, but Funnel Webs are the only spiders I really am afraid of. Supposedly they don't grow longer than 6cm, but I vividly remember a time when I looked up from my book while reading to see a huge funnel web perched above my head along the recessed beam. The thing was over 10cm long, and scared the hell out of me.

Interstate rivalries are again, like the USA I'd think. Different states like different sports and have rivalries over which is best, much as I'd guess some parts of the USA like baseball and/or basketball, but other like football, even things like NASCAR, which from what I can tell is seen as a distinctly Southern sport. Queenslanders have a distinctly different accent to Victorians: I had one Queenlander describe us as "posh" and another as "hicks" - and we do have hicks alrighty, guys who wear only jeans and big belts with bigger buckles, always wear wide brimmed hats and tuck in their shirts, even, sometimes the shirts are checkered, as if to enhance the stereotype, with wide drawling accents.

All in all, it's a varied country, you can probably find something you like about it, and somewhere you like, so long as the elements that are common to Australia - love of sport, jingoism, especially a belief that Australia has earned a place in the sun and perhaps an inordinate amount of pride in every little achievement, to name just a few. Hope I didn't bore or offend anyone, but that's my take. As they say, "There's only one way to find out", so take a trip here sometime, maybe two weeks to somewhere like the Blue Mountains. Whatever you choose to do there's always lots of places to visit, like the Twelve Apostoles or the Gold Coast, Blue Mountains. To use the US comparison again, trying to see even just the major attractions would be a lot like trying to see all the major attractions of the USA.

R988z
09-20-2006, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

Actually you are probably screwed. An old family friend married a Scotsman who had a similar pot conviction from a misspent youth. Now this family friend is a lawyer and fairly well connected, she has been trying to weasel around the law for probably 15years or so, but they still wont let him in, not even for a holiday.

However depending on how old you were and how much stuff you actually had it would be worth talking to an immigration lawyer and applying if you really want to go, you never know you might get lucky, however I wouldn't be too hopeful. I believe Canada also has similar strict rules on letting in people with convictions as well.

ploughman
09-20-2006, 10:09 AM
I did wonder if you might not have to declare your 'rap sheet' under spent convictions legislation but you do.

Check this out.
Convictions. (http://www.australia-migration.com/page/Police_Clearances_and_Offences/13)

You're probably screwed you junky you.

SkyChimp
09-20-2006, 05:36 PM
If I come, it won't be for a year or two. It's a very expensive trip from the east coast of the US.

That Funnel Web is no doubt the nastiest spider on the planet. We have a little brown nasty of our own called the Brown Recluse. It's a little spinder in comparison, with a very nasty, necrotizing bite. There is no antidote. And when you flesh is done rotting away, skin grafts rarely take. Look at your own risk:

http://thefuntimesguide.com/movabletype/archives/2005/07/brownrecluse.html

Frequent_Flyer
09-20-2006, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
If I come, it won't be for a year or two. It's a very expensive trip from the east coast of the US.

That Funnel Web is no doubt the nastiest spider on the planet. We have a little brown nasty of our own called the Brown Recluse. It's a little spinder in comparison, with a very nasty, necrotizing bite. There is no antidote. And when you flesh is done rotting away, skin grafts rarely take. Look at your own risk:

http://thefuntimesguide.com/movabletype/archives/2005/07/brownrecluse.html Is the next question going to be about Australia's position on extradition and banking laws? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

dusta01
09-20-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by BADroadrunner:
well i guess it is true. ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap. also from what i herd they all saypeople from sydney are all ignorent fools. so i guess they are right again. id rather live in a place were if some 1 ( or something) attacks you, you can fight back, instead of were you hurt a roo thats attaacking you, you get to go to prison.



Spot the arrogant american. I don't want to get into a yank bashing as i have met some really nice americans but it's this typical response from a pig headed know it all who thinks that america alone saved the war and no-one else did their part . For starters i could go ask the 30 other people i work with what they think of americans and i can safely say that Love would not be the word to decribe your country or people.

To say that america saved the western world from speaking japanese is plain and simply bull****. No other way to describe it . Just shows how ignorant you truly are. I suppose you think that all australians own a pet koala and ride kangaroo's to work each day ?


Your grasp of the english language is shocking. Spot the spelling mistakes. As for Sydney , well like every city you will have *******s but i have fantastic friends in every city . Can't say the same for america. In fact i have had a run in with an interesting american bilillo_loco who along with you, reinforces the point about how americans really do think they are the bees knees but are infact cretons.

tagTaken2
09-20-2006, 09:34 PM
Oh, shut up.

I enjoy expressing my view on what sucks about US culture and foreign policy as much as the next man, but generally I believe the good outweighs the craziness.

Why has every thread recently descended into yank-bashing? Oleg... please give us a patch and/or screenshots of BoB before we kill each other.

In the meantime, let's try and keep Australia's rep as a welcoming country intact. Skchimp, if you make it to melbourne, I'll buy you a pot. (NOT pot).

jensenpark
09-20-2006, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
If I come, it won't be for a year or two. It's a very expensive trip from the east coast of the US.

That Funnel Web is no doubt the nastiest spider on the planet. We have a little brown nasty of our own called the Brown Recluse. It's a little spinder in comparison, with a very nasty, necrotizing bite. There is no antidote. And when you flesh is done rotting away, skin grafts rarely take. Look at your own risk:

http://thefuntimesguide.com/movabletype/archives/2005/07/brownrecluse.html


Oh man...disgusting. Did you see the note: "it's a good thing he got treatment for the bite?" His skin and muscle are rotted away...yea, good thing he got treatment. What would it look like without treatment?

dusta01
09-20-2006, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by tagTaken2:
Oh, shut up.

I enjoy expressing my view on what sucks about US culture and foreign policy as much as the next man, but generally I believe the good outweighs the craziness.

Why has every thread recently descended into yank-bashing? Oleg... please give us a patch and/or screenshots of BoB before we kill each other.

In the meantime, let's try and keep Australia's rep as a welcoming country intact. Skchimp, if you make it to melbourne, I'll buy you a pot. (NOT pot).


You easties and your small glasses of beer. And on the topic of american bashing if you read i said there are some americans that i have alot of respect for and are good friends with. They themselves are embarrassed to be american. When some tool says america was the reason we aren't speaking japanese really gets my blood boiling.

blakduk
09-21-2006, 12:02 AM
The funnel-web spider is certainly very deadly if you get bitten by one of the beasties, but one of the weirdest things about it is that the venom is particularly potent for primates.
I assume that includes you Skychimp http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://www.usyd.edu.au/anaes/venom/spiders.html

Noone has come up with a good explanation as to why a spider so far removed from where primates evolved should prove so deadly against them.

Xiolablu3
09-21-2006, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by R988z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

Actually you are probably screwed. An old family friend married a Scotsman who had a similar pot conviction from a misspent youth. Now this family friend is a lawyer and fairly well connected, she has been trying to weasel around the law for probably 15years or so, but they still wont let him in, not even for a holiday.

However depending on how old you were and how much stuff you actually had it would be worth talking to an immigration lawyer and applying if you really want to go, you never know you might get lucky, however I wouldn't be too hopeful. I believe Canada also has similar strict rules on letting in people with convictions as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought as much, ahh well, I ewould probably never get around to going anyway. (It was 3 worth and I didnt even realise I still had it, nowadays you would be let off with that amount or even more)

It was just the 6-7 months of cold weather that gets on my nerves in England. (It gets pretty depressing between October and March when its always grey skys and drizzle)

I guess there are plenty of other hot countries to go too, its just that they speak English in Oz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: Actually, reading that page it only says you will not be let in with a SUBSTANTIAL criminal record. Mine is probably the least serious you can possibly get...now it would not even be considered.

By reading that page I would say that someone with a conviction like mine would surely be let in. (It was a 75 fine I got, about the same as a speeding ticket)

WWMaxGunz
09-21-2006, 01:54 AM
Not an Aussie and missed my chance to go back in the 70's when I was stationed halfway there.
But I have heard and seen a few things including....

1) Kevin Bloody Wilson -- just the songs, a lot of them, and I can only imagine if there's video.

2) A description on the old Delphi FSF of an Australian Pub Sport known as Pi$$-Hockey.

Any place where people can come up with things like those and be so totally up-front about it
is a place I think I'd really like. It's a sure thing that holier-than-thou Puritanism never
got control in Australia! Ya might have em but the bastages don't rule, that's for sure! You
guys can be honest and open and not worry about what anyone might think is just way cool!

Really, it's the beyond-anal prudes here that have screwed politics and much of life up so
badly. Where else can people dying be denied pain meds because they might get addicted?
I won't bother with the rest. Just whatever you do there, don't turn into the way things
are run here!

smokincrater
09-21-2006, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by Dunhill_BKK:
G'day as one of Australia's newest citizens I feel it is my duty to reply to this post.

I've lived here for 10 years and the closest I've come to being harmed by wildlife has been catching the front wheel of a motorcycle when a rabbit warren collapsed under it. I've seen a number of venomous snakes and spiders and not felt threatened by any of them.

The wildlife is really quite nice to have about. Kangaroos are present in places you might not expect, like Canberra. I can take you to see wild roos within a couple minutes of the parliment. I've got all manner of birds and lizards in my backyard.

Its a great place for naturalists and people who want to get away from it all. Just don't get lost in the bush. Its not the animals that kill folks in Australia its the landscape and the tyranny of distance that kill people. Be bloody careful about where you go and tell somebody when you;ll be back.

And as someone else already said swimm between the bloody flags. That probably kills more tourists than anything else. One of my scariest moments was being caught in a rip on an unguarded beach in the country.

Be safe SkyChimp and enjoy your visit if you come down.

Welcome to Australia. Now you do know you`ve got to vote now!

smokincrater
09-21-2006, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by R988z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

Actually you are probably screwed. An old family friend married a Scotsman who had a similar pot conviction from a misspent youth. Now this family friend is a lawyer and fairly well connected, she has been trying to weasel around the law for probably 15years or so, but they still wont let him in, not even for a holiday.

However depending on how old you were and how much stuff you actually had it would be worth talking to an immigration lawyer and applying if you really want to go, you never know you might get lucky, however I wouldn't be too hopeful. I believe Canada also has similar strict rules on letting in people with convictions as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought as much, ahh well, I ewould probably never get around to going anyway. (It was 3 worth and I didnt even realise I still had it, nowadays you would be let off with that amount or even more)

It was just the 6-7 months of cold weather that gets on my nerves in England. (It gets pretty depressing between October and March when its always grey skys and drizzle)

I guess there are plenty of other hot countries to go too, its just that they speak English in Oz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: Actually, reading that page it only says you will not be let in with a SUBSTANTIAL criminal record. Mine is probably the least serious you can possibly get...now it would not even be considered.

By reading that page I would say that someone with a conviction like mine would surely be let in. (It was a 75 fine I got, about the same as a speeding ticket) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well to quote one Australian saying "Have a go". But do it soon before you have to sign your life away with the proposed new laws of mutual understanding to get a visa.

Ratsack
09-21-2006, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by smokincrater:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by R988z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

Actually you are probably screwed. An old family friend married a Scotsman who had a similar pot conviction from a misspent youth. Now this family friend is a lawyer and fairly well connected, she has been trying to weasel around the law for probably 15years or so, but they still wont let him in, not even for a holiday.

However depending on how old you were and how much stuff you actually had it would be worth talking to an immigration lawyer and applying if you really want to go, you never know you might get lucky, however I wouldn't be too hopeful. I believe Canada also has similar strict rules on letting in people with convictions as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought as much, ahh well, I ewould probably never get around to going anyway. (It was 3 worth and I didnt even realise I still had it, nowadays you would be let off with that amount or even more)

It was just the 6-7 months of cold weather that gets on my nerves in England. (It gets pretty depressing between October and March when its always grey skys and drizzle)

I guess there are plenty of other hot countries to go too, its just that they speak English in Oz http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: Actually, reading that page it only says you will not be let in with a SUBSTANTIAL criminal record. Mine is probably the least serious you can possibly get...now it would not even be considered.

By reading that page I would say that someone with a conviction like mine would surely be let in. (It was a 75 fine I got, about the same as a speeding ticket) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well to quote one Australian saying "Have a go". But do it soon before you have to sign your life away with the proposed new laws of mutual understanding to get a visa. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And don't forget the mandatory group hug! Awwwww, innt dat beddah, liddle diddums.


Ratsack

whiteladder
09-21-2006, 05:16 AM
I hate spiders, scared to death of them. Stupid fear considering the UK has neather large or dangerous types, but this fear will and has stopped me traveling to Australia.

We have some Aussy friends, a few years back we had a very kind invitation to visit to watch the Olympic games, tickets to the stadium and a flat to stay in for 2 weeks, very generous offer actually. I had my doubts but was assure (lied to I think http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) that my chances of coming across one of the beasties was slim. All was set....

We then at a party with some other friends from Tasmania, I was talking of the trip and my anxiety over the whole spider thing. She then recounted a story that had happend to her, she too being not best friends with the 8 legged ones. She had been driving across a bridge into Hobart I think and had pulled down the sun visor, upon doing so a extremly large spider (a huntsman?? she thinks not even poisonous) fell into her lap!!!. She jumped out of the car didn`t even stop and blocked the bridge for an hour before the police could fight through the jam to see what the problem was.

I listened to the story with a mixture of morbid fascination and rising fear. On leaving the party I phone my friend and regretfully cancelled the trip.

A team of wild horses couldn`t get me to that continent now.

WTE_Ibis
09-21-2006, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by R988z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Are there still laws about who can come and livein Austrailia concerning 'undesirables'?

I always had a thing about Oz too, but at University I got a conviction for possesion of Hash (pot).

Does that mean I cannot live in Aus now? (Im from England)

I have got various answer in the past from fellow Pomms, so I would like the official answer from a Aussie pls! (They'll let any old sod into England, even if they are carrying an AK47 under each arm...)

Actually you are probably screwed. An old family friend married a Scotsman who had a similar pot conviction from a misspent youth. Now this family friend is a lawyer and fairly well connected, she has been trying to weasel around the law for probably 15years or so, but they still wont let him in, not even for a holiday.

However depending on how old you were and how much stuff you actually had it would be worth talking to an immigration lawyer and applying if you really want to go, you never know you might get lucky, however I wouldn't be too hopeful. I believe Canada also has similar strict rules on letting in people with convictions as well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

--------------------------------------------------

Well most of our great great great grandparents were given free passage for the smallest conviction, so a precedent has been set.
Try stealing a loaf of bread, that worked for a lot of people.

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Philipscdrw
09-21-2006, 10:12 AM
I've lived in England all my life but my Dad's Australian, and I have dual citizenship (or maybe it's only the right to Australian citizenship, I'm not sure). But non-poisonous non-aggressive 2-inch English spiders put the wind up me. I'm really not keen on spiders lurking inside my car, of all places - and what about aircraft? That's the last thing you'd need in a glider - spiders in the cockpit - open the air vent and blow a spider into your face...

In the course of everyday, urbanised, domestic life, how often do spiders occur?

huggy87
09-21-2006, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by dusta01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BADroadrunner:
well i guess it is true. ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap. also from what i herd they all saypeople from sydney are all ignorent fools. so i guess they are right again. id rather live in a place were if some 1 ( or something) attacks you, you can fight back, instead of were you hurt a roo thats attaacking you, you get to go to prison.



Spot the arrogant american. I don't want to get into a yank bashing as i have met some really nice americans but it's this typical response from a pig headed know it all who thinks that america alone saved the war and no-one else did their part . For starters i could go ask the 30 other people i work with what they think of americans and i can safely say that Love would not be the word to decribe your country or people.

To say that america saved the western world from speaking japanese is plain and simply bull****. No other way to describe it . Just shows how ignorant you truly are. I suppose you think that all australians own a pet koala and ride kangaroo's to work each day ?


Your grasp of the english language is shocking. Spot the spelling mistakes. As for Sydney , well like every city you will have *******s but i have fantastic friends in every city . Can't say the same for america. In fact i have had a run in with an interesting american bilillo_loco who along with you, reinforces the point about how americans really do think they are the bees knees but are infact cretons. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If this guy is a pig-headed know it all and you like most of the americans you've met, why do you go on to insult all americans. Hello, kettle, this is the pot the calling...

He is ignorant, but who is the arrogant one?

WB_Outlaw
09-21-2006, 11:05 AM
It's way beyond pathetic, stupid, moronic, etc., to belittle the Australians and New Zelanders role in WW-II. They produced some of the toughest infantry in the world, and sent a large number of them to fight in the European theater despite the big fight happening next door. Mighty nice of them IMO. They would still be speaking that silly version of English they use (almost as bad as the British version) even if we never considered a South Pacific campaign.

I couldn't live anywhere with such draconian restrictions on firearms, but, I do hope to get there before the GBR is completely bleached. Also, the Carib. Reef Sharks and Hammerheads are getting a bit old. I think a White or Tiger would brighten up things a bit.

--Outlaw.

P.S.
Also, we shouldn't forget the Aussie (NZ???) help in the Korean war.

panther3485
09-21-2006, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
I've lived in England all my life but my Dad's Australian, and I have dual citizenship (or maybe it's only the right to Australian citizenship, I'm not sure). But non-poisonous non-aggressive 2-inch English spiders put the wind up me. I'm really not keen on spiders lurking inside my car, of all places - and what about aircraft? That's the last thing you'd need in a glider - spiders in the cockpit - open the air vent and blow a spider into your face...

In the course of everyday, urbanised, domestic life, how often do spiders occur?

They are a common feature of everyday life. Most species, however, are relatively or completely harmless to humans although the Huntsman can grow to quite a large size and it's appearance can be scary for some.

The Sydney Funnel Web is the deadliest and my countrymen in S.E. Australian can probably attest to how common/uncommon it is. Certain times of the year are worse, IIRC.

Coming in a fair second place, and widely distributed around the country, would be the 'Redback', whose bite is rarely fatal but can make you feel quite ill. It is common around outdoor areas like Garden Sheds, wood piles, fences, outdoor furniture, BBQ's etc. It tends to be shy and most victims are bitten through accidental contact. We kill them whenever we find them, but they always re-appear in numbers. Spraying with pesticides can be effective for a while but there are environmental considerations.

The 'White Tail' (or 'White Arse' as my family calls it) can be common indoors in many parts of the country. It's bite was once believed to produce nasty necrotic lesions and ulcers, but this was later thought to be caused by the action of bacteria, rather than the venom itself and there was some uncertainty as to whether this spider was even to blame at all. The jury is still 'out' on that one! We kill them on sight too, just to be safe.

Beyond that, there are many, many species which are simply colourful and sometimes interesting to observe, but as I said before, harmless. I find the larger cockroaches more revolting.


Best regards, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
panther3485

panther3485
09-21-2006, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by WB_Outlaw:
It's way beyond pathetic, stupid, moronic, etc., to belittle the Australians and New Zelanders role in WW-II. They produced some of the toughest infantry in the world, and sent a large number of them to fight in the European theater despite the big fight happening next door. Mighty nice of them IMO. They would still be speaking that silly version of English they use (almost as bad as the British version) even if we never considered a South Pacific campaign.

I couldn't live anywhere with such draconian restrictions on firearms, but, I do hope to get there before the GBR is completely bleached. Also, the Carib. Reef Sharks and Hammerheads are getting a bit old. I think a White or Tiger would brighten up things a bit.

--Outlaw.

P.S.
Also, we shouldn't forget the Aussie (NZ???) help in the Korean war.

I reckon the 'version' of English we use is the best. We 'cherry pick' what we want from British English and U.S. English, and then add in our own variations on top of those.

It doesn't get better than that! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SkyChimp
09-21-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by dusta01:
When some tool says america was the reason we aren't speaking japanese really gets my blood boiling.

Maybe that's why they said it. Need a bandage for that hook wound in your lip?

WOODY01
09-21-2006, 08:07 PM
In the course of everyday, urbanised, domestic life, how often do spiders occur?

I found Huntsmen to be one of the most common (well and the Orb spiders, but there kind of neat) I would find indoors (weekly?), they are very ugly but not aggressive, though crafty wee buggas and opertunistic, I dont think there parisitic per say but I did have one living in the bedroom behind a set of draws that had enjoyed a bit of a drink of my blood one night, I woke up to find two large puncture marks on my sholder, I felt a bit off colour for a few days but nothing too bad, what did frighten me about them was there speed, man they can go! had one run up my arm after I put it outside in a glass jar once, that didnt do much for me! Also found a Sydney Funnel web in the kitchen at work one day, as soon as I went for it it reared up and went for me, aggressive, big, ugly, deadly, but it was a fun fight!

On the non deadly ugly side of things the wildlife there is very unique and some of it fasinating, the lizards are vieried and spectacular, as are the birdlife, most colourfull birds youll find anywhere, loud though...
Haha! in 5 years liveing in OZ, the only Kangaroo I saw was dead on the F3 freeway! loL!

smokincrater
09-21-2006, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by WB_Outlaw:
It's way beyond pathetic, stupid, moronic, etc., to belittle the Australians and New Zelanders role in WW-II. They produced some of the toughest infantry in the world, and sent a large number of them to fight in the European theater despite the big fight happening next door. Mighty nice of them IMO. They would still be speaking that silly version of English they use (almost as bad as the British version) even if we never considered a South Pacific campaign.

I couldn't live anywhere with such draconian restrictions on firearms, but, I do hope to get there before the GBR is completely bleached. Also, the Carib. Reef Sharks and Hammerheads are getting a bit old. I think a White or Tiger would brighten up things a bit.

--Outlaw.

P.S.
Also, we shouldn't forget the Aussie (NZ???) help in the Korean war.

Nor Vietnam!

But seourisly the gun thing is not that bad. You can argue with people and not expect a bullet coming your way.

whiteladder
09-22-2006, 02:07 AM
I found Huntsmen to be one of the most common (well and the Orb spiders, but there kind of neat) I would find indoors (weekly?), they are very ugly but not aggressive, though crafty wee buggas and opertunistic, I dont think there parisitic per say but I did have one living in the bedroom behind a set of draws that had enjoyed a bit of a drink of my blood one night, I woke up to find two large puncture marks on my sholder, I felt a bit off colour for a few days but nothing too bad, what did frighten me about them was there speed, man they can go! had one run up my arm after I put it outside in a glass jar once, that didnt do much for me! Also found a Sydney Funnel web in the kitchen at work one day, as soon as I went for it it reared up and went for me, aggressive, big, ugly, deadly, but it was a fun fight!


I knew I shouldn`t have started to read this thread, had a bloody spider nightmear last night. My wife thought I was having some sort of seizure.

ploughman
09-22-2006, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
When some tool says america was the reason we aren't speaking japanese really gets my blood boiling.

Maybe that's why they said it. Need a bandage for that hook wound in your lip? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

...and while we're at it, if it weren't for the English, you wouldn't be speaking English either. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

What's that I smell, just a hint on the air, a faint wisp of smoke, could it be...The Ashes?

Feathered_IV
09-22-2006, 02:56 AM
I got bitten by a fiddleback spider when I was a kid. The thing was making a house inside the handle bar of my bike. My hand swelled until it looked like a blown up surgical glove.

*HINT* Always tape up the little hole at the end of your handle bars http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

WTE_Googly
09-22-2006, 04:32 AM
I'm a Kiwi, therefore not used to living amoungst all these poisonous little beasties.

Went to stay with some mates in Sydney a few years ago, and where they were was in the middle of funnelweb country, so of course the bastards had to drop a rubber spider on my face in the middle of the night...

I shat myself (metaphorically http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

R988z
09-22-2006, 05:27 AM
I find the larger cockroaches more revolting.



The larger cockroaches are actually called American cockroaches http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

The smaller ones are German cockroaches.

I hate spiders, but am good at killing them, those huntsmans are tricky though, they tend to jump onto you and boy can they jump far. I have been known to spend hours stalking them, no way can I sleep with the knowledge that one is on the loose nearby.

The mosquitos also bug me, in some areas they can carry nasty stuff like ross river virus, just incase anyone needed another reason not to go.

Ratsack
09-22-2006, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dusta01:
When some tool says america was the reason we aren't speaking japanese really gets my blood boiling.

Maybe that's why they said it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe you're right....nah, he's just a pratt.

cheers,
Ratsack

Philipscdrw
09-22-2006, 08:29 AM
Hmm... sounds like I'd want a friendly spider-eating pet...

It's not possible to house-train a budgie is it?

BiscuitKnight
09-22-2006, 09:05 AM
Just keep a Daddy Longlegs around.

huggy87
09-22-2006, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
I got bitten by a fiddleback spider when I was a kid. The thing was making a house inside the handle bar of my bike. My hand swelled until it looked like a blown up surgical glove.

*HINT* Always tape up the little hole at the end of your handle bars http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Wow. That sucks. Nasty little buggers. I've known three people bitten by them. Two were in bed and the third was in a cardboard box. Was your hand as bad as the pictures skychimp posted?

Xiolablu3
09-22-2006, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by tagTaken2:
Oh, shut up.

I enjoy expressing my view on what sucks about US culture and foreign policy as much as the next man, but generally I believe the good outweighs the craziness.

Why has every thread recently descended into yank-bashing? Oleg...


Its not really surprising that the Yanks get bashed when you read drivel like this :-


Originally posted by BADroadrunner:
well i guess it is true. ive talked to many aussies before, and they all say the same. they love America. then again if it wasn't for us they'd be speaking jap. also from what i herd they all saypeople from sydney are all ignorent fools..


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Try and educate idiots like these a bit better and maybe Yanks wouldnt get bashed so much.

Aussies were fighting all over the world, and were one of the key elements in the first big Western Allies win over the Germans, El Alamein.

lrrp22
09-22-2006, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Try and educate idiots like these a bit better and maybe Yanks wouldnt get bashed so much.

Oh puuuhleeeze. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif One person's inane comment justifies the repeated bashing of an entire nation?

LRRP