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stugumby
09-11-2008, 12:09 AM
Have been thinking about acquiring a easily managed close quarters personal/home defense weapon, the ball bat just dosnt seem to cut it, I was thinking a modern replica of the ball and chain mace or other wicked medieval device to hack, jab, skewer etc.
Local army surplus stores have traditional mp billy clubs and cav store has good line of expandable batons and the one with the vertical handle.

Watched conan the barbarian the other day and a wicked broadsword would be just the thing, or perhaps a war hammer with spike??

Of course most of these items are probably illegal or restricted, and how to ask at police station?? Gee I just bought a war hammer, I guess its ok huh??

Am looking into pepper spray too to carry in car due to road rage etc, never know when some one will get bold and stupid at same time.

Any ideas?? Would use my .45 but work has a no guns on property policy regardless if you have concealed permit or not, so wont do anygood to leave it in car.

PanzerAce
09-11-2008, 01:12 AM
Um.....why are you worrying about your job's policy on weapons if you are looking for an HD gun? Personally, if you are just looking for something with a higher capacity than a .45, I would suggest look into getting an AR or AK. AR I would load with some nice heavy Hornady TAP ammo, and the AK I would go with the 154gr Wolf JSP ammo.

Esel1964
09-11-2008, 01:17 AM
If firearms are off the table,then go with what the cops use: OC spray,combined with an A.S.P. baton (http://www.asp-net.com/batons.html).

Schwarz.13
09-11-2008, 01:23 AM
http://www.thebreedsofdogs.com/images/attack_dog.jpg

PanzerAce
09-11-2008, 02:17 AM
Originally posted by Esel1964:
If firearms are off the table,then go with what the cops use: OC spray,combined with an A.S.P. baton (http://www.asp-net.com/batons.html).

In many places batons are illegal.

Monty_Thrud
09-11-2008, 02:47 AM
You have 2 choices, an exploding suicide attack Hamster or Geese, i've heard Ninja Squirrels are cheap to own too.

Dagnamit!, thats 3 choices.

JG52Uther
09-11-2008, 05:05 AM
Steel toe cap boots and a really bad attitude always worked for me.In my life I have been attacked once,and all it needed to show the scumbag the error of his ways was a punch to the throat followed by a swift kick in the goolies.Being a law abiding responsible adult I refrained from putting the boot in when he was on the floor.
Not walking around with 'VICTIM' on your forehead helps enormously in not getting any trouble.

Low_Flyer_MkIX
09-11-2008, 05:09 AM
I'd go for a rare breed attack dog. All you'll need is some material with a picture of a Spitfire on it placed around entrances such as doors and windows. This material will drape itself over any intruder - giving a creature of limited intellect the impression that there's a British aeroplane in the house. Frothing at the mouth in an almost rabid state, the Kurfhound will go into a frenzied attack, attempting to savage the intruder/Spitfire. Almost unknown to the average home intruder, a countermeasure is to bark back - upon which the Kurfhound will disappear, often for days on end.

Breeze147
09-11-2008, 05:53 AM
Two words: Pit Bull

han freak solo
09-11-2008, 05:57 AM
+1 on the dog. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

A hatchet would be good, too. It looks like a common wood chopping device instead of an "assault" weapon like a mace. Might be good if you were sued, I guess.

My wife carries an OC spray set up by Kimber.
http://www.life-act.com/pepperblaster.php

A taser would be interesting, but I have no experience with those.

Monterey13
09-11-2008, 06:29 AM
Fire extinguisher works great. First, you blind them with it, then knock them in the head with the tank. The Co2 can also freeze them temporarily and takes their breath away.

I have done this on a few occasions. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Blood_Splat
09-11-2008, 06:39 AM
http://www.davidrisstrom.org/PhotoAlbum/RosaThePolicyWatchdog.jpg

Bearcat99
09-11-2008, 06:40 AM
Get a taser or a stun gun.

Blood_Splat
09-11-2008, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Get a taser or a stun gun.
Don't tase me bro!

SeaFireLIV
09-11-2008, 06:51 AM
Bah! I say take out the threat before it becomes one. Stock up on guns, grenades, mines, a nuke if you can afford it and get a few m8s together - neutralise the main populace. Problem solved.



Wait a minute, what did I just write? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

HotelBushranger
09-11-2008, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Get a taser or a stun gun.
Don't tase me bro! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! For some reason your sig picture just works with that perfectly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Friendly_flyer
09-11-2008, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by stugumby:
Watched conan the barbarian the other day and a wicked broadsword would be just the thing, or perhaps a war hammer with spike??

A war-hammer is really a very specialised weapon for using against heavily armoured opponents, and not well suited for whacking someone over the head. A stout stick or a bat will probably be much more effective. Man have don quite well with clubs for at least a million years, no reason to change a winning formula!

ploughman
09-11-2008, 07:54 AM
I had someone try and break in a few weeks ago, I think the dogs spooked them so they gave up their attempt, I only noticed the next day when I saw damage to the door they'd tried to pry open. While I have the usual array of mallets, hammers and sports accessories laying around the place, my response was to buy a very bright torch (flashlight, 3 1/2 million candle power) with which to dazzle, sear the retinas off, any intruder. It would also make a pretty stunning kosh in itself but used in conjuntion with a rubber mallet I figured I'd have the upper hand in any confrontation should one arise.

SeaFireLIV
09-11-2008, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
I had someone try and break in a few weeks ago, I think the dogs spooked them so they gave up their attempt, I only noticed the next day when I saw damage to the door they'd tried to pry open. While I have the usual array of mallets, hammers and sports accessories laying around the place, my response was to buy a very bright torch (flashlight, 3 1/2 million candle power) with which to dazzle, sear the retinas off, any intruder. It would also make a pretty stunning kosh in itself but used in conjuntion with a rubber mallet I figured I'd have the upper hand in any confrontation should one arise.

Yea, when I worked in security I bought myself one of those 8 battery heavy torches with a very bright light. I always carried it on the shoulder, especially when turning corners. Perfect for dazzling anyone that appears in front of you then smacking them over the head with the torche`s weight. Ever since then I`ve always kept one at home.

Ummm... I also have a pseudo-medievel sword lying around safely secure... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
09-11-2008, 10:44 AM
This is the perfect non-firearm home defense weapon:

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=624

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/images/500062i/500062-1-L.jpg

Perfect for close quarters, very controllable. A little messy though. I would hesitate to use pepper spray in the home, that smell will stick around for quite awhile.

raaaid
09-11-2008, 11:02 AM
that falcata was used ages ago by my antecesors here in asturias

Urufu_Shinjiro
09-11-2008, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
that falcata was used ages ago by my antecesors here in asturias

Ah, the good old days http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Breeze147
09-11-2008, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
Bah! I say take out the threat before it becomes one. Stock up on guns, grenades, mines, a nuke if you can afford it and get a few m8s together - neutralise the main populace. Problem solved.


Wait a minute, what did I just write? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I agree, preemptive strike is the way to go. You can also attack someone who had nothing to do with it, just to show you mean business.

Bremspropeller
09-11-2008, 12:10 PM
Fembots http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

DuxCorvan
09-11-2008, 01:10 PM
If they attack you with fresh fruit you can put a 16 ton weight on them, or release the tiger. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DuxCorvan
09-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by raaaid:
that falcata was used ages ago by my antecesors here in asturias

I'm from Cantabria. Yep, astures and cantabrii used those, it was a very used sword by most Iberian cultures. It has a similar counterpart in the Greek 'kopis'.

But, Raaaid, ancient Asturians and Cantabrians are ethnically very unlikely to be our ancestors, even if living in the same geographical space. The Augustan wars of 29-19 BC had a heavy toll. They were mostly exterminated, dispersed or enslaved by the Romans, and the remaining were incorporated to Roman auxiliar armies, romanized, distributed and heavily mixed. Astur-Cantabrian culture got lost almost completely, except for some traditions, and it's still a hard subject of study.

raaaid
09-11-2008, 01:37 PM
dux i read that the reason there are no meigas in asturias nor cantabria is ramiro 1 erasing them

is this true why did the xanas tradition disapear?

DuxCorvan
09-11-2008, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by raaaid:
dux i read that the reason there are no meigas in asturias nor cantabria is ramiro 1 erasing them

is this true why did the xanas tradition disapear?

Well, the xanas -in Cantabria anjanas (for those wondering is some kind of local fairies)- traditions have been well alive in rural villages well into the the 20th century. But their relation to ancient traditions is obscure.

Most of what is now commonly called or associated with Celtic cultures or those influenced by them, is in fact a series of European Atlantic Coast spread traditions more related to Middle Age cultural and commercial exchange than to the real Celtic world, even if there are clear Celtic roots to some of them.

About the meigas (sorceresses)... are you sure they're extinct? "Haberlas, hailas" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ARCHIE_CALVERT
09-11-2008, 05:54 PM
This: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/owwwww!/video-of-xrep-wirele...some-dude-276481.php (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/owwwww!/video-of-xrep-wireless-taser-shotgun-shocking-some-dude-276481.php)

Or this:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3749

NAFP_supah
09-11-2008, 06:23 PM
I have one of those inside lighted life sized santa dolls which says "ho ho ho" triggered by a motion sensor. Every year around christmass I set it up in my office near the safe. You wouldn't believe how badly its scared the daylights out of my coworkers (especially new ones). It makes christmas fun for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Messaschnitzel
09-11-2008, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
This is the perfect non-firearm home defense weapon:

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=624

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/images/500062i/500062-1-L.jpg

Perfect for close quarters, very controllable. A little messy though. I would hesitate to use pepper spray in the home, that smell will stick around for quite awhile.

I've got one of those! The one I have is the old Del Tin version. Unlike the Windlass falcatas sold now by MRL, it actually has a straight cutting edge and a bronze horsehead style grip instead of a brass one.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2848947975_0494a9e687.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2849781972_1069e6eb4f.jpg

Everybody should remember that anything that is used as a weapon will be viewed as such. When I was a kid, we had a rubber shower mat (the type with the bunch of little suction cups on one side) that had a series of numbers and letters written in permanent marker on it. I asked my mom what the letters and numbers meant. My mom (who was a legal secretary)said that someone had rolled it up like a newspaper and beat the bejeezus out of someone with it at a local hotel somewhere, and the offending bathmat/flogging tool was admitted as evidence. After the trial was done with, my mom asked if she could take the mat because we needed one at home.

My weapon for home defense would be a set of seven lead filled matryoshka stacking dolls, so as to be able to stun the intruder with successively bigger and heavier objects. I have to remember to save the biggest for last so I can administer the "Koopdeegrease". In case you didnt know, that's French for the "Big Whammy".

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GrpS7s-zL.jpg

BoCfuss
09-11-2008, 09:27 PM
Seriously, just move next door to Joe Horn. He'll watch your house.

M2morris
09-12-2008, 12:19 AM
Screw that non fire arm crap.
Get a gun.
A revolver.
Tell the wife to just pull the trigger when said scumbag decides to brighten the day with his shiiity presence.
Sorry.

Back on topic.

OC is very effective.

It will disable.

Get some OC, oleoresin capsicum.
You can get it in a 4 OZ stream or cone spray pattern. Simple effective and life saving.

Urufu_Shinjiro
09-12-2008, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by Messaschnitzel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
This is the perfect non-firearm home defense weapon:

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=624

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/images/500062i/500062-1-L.jpg

Perfect for close quarters, very controllable. A little messy though. I would hesitate to use pepper spray in the home, that smell will stick around for quite awhile.

I've got one of those! The one I have is the old Del Tin version. Unlike the Windlass falcatas sold now by MRL, it actually has a straight cutting edge and a bronze horsehead style grip instead of a brass one.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2848947975_0494a9e687.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2849781972_1069e6eb4f.jpg

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, the good old days, I wish I had had money to spend when they still sold the Del Tins. Windlass has improved some over the years but they still have issues.

Aaron_GT
09-12-2008, 12:15 PM
A defensive martial art might make more sense as you always have that present.

Blood_Splat
09-12-2008, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
This is the perfect non-firearm home defense weapon:

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=624

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/images/500062i/500062-1-L.jpg

Perfect for close quarters, very controllable. A little messy though. I would hesitate to use pepper spray in the home, that smell will stick around for quite awhile.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLIOtBLqoU&feature=related lol

Urufu_Shinjiro
09-12-2008, 01:06 PM
Lol.

roybaty
09-12-2008, 04:15 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41V2Z8NDT7L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

Had one since I lived in a bad neighborhood, even now it's always on my nightstand.

Cossack13
09-12-2008, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Blood_Splat:
http://www.davidrisstrom.org/PhotoAlbum/RosaThePolicyWatchdog.jpg
Yep.

Von_Rat
09-12-2008, 06:32 PM
yep,,,im pretty sure a study showed that a big dog was the most effective against home intruders.

iirc the study showed that just the sound of the beast would likely make intruders go look for somewhere else to break in.

DuxCorvan
09-13-2008, 01:06 PM
Suddenly appearing and screaming before the intruder completely naked but with a native witchdoctor mask, a soup ladle and a powerful ten inch erection can make anyone run in disconcert and fear of the unknown.

Cajun76
09-13-2008, 01:53 PM
Either that or you've just begun a mating ritual, Dux. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

Home invasion would take on a whole new meaning. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Bremspropeller
09-13-2008, 06:22 PM
Suddenly appearing and screaming before the intruder completely naked but with a native witchdoctor mask, a soup ladle and a powerful ten inch erection can make anyone run in disconcert and fear of the unknown.


Then shout out "surprise buttsecks" and you've reached a new level of awesomeness http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

stalkervision
09-13-2008, 06:58 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZyLGi0DfEw&feature=related

Is that a flame thrower in your pants or are you just unhappy to see me..? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

roybaty
09-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Dux!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ImMoreBetter
09-13-2008, 11:16 PM
Tampons + Slingshot = Tiger killer...?

roybaty
09-14-2008, 08:19 AM
.50 Cal. API tampons I assume http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

jarink
09-14-2008, 10:35 AM
My wife with PMS.